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Originally Posted by DR Pepper

Thanks Web,

Is a prescription required for sources in the US? How do you make your liquid with the raw powder? How long does alldays var/lev last in the body?

Pepper

No prescription needed. Kitsnmore ships out of Texas, calling their products research chemicals not for human consumption. Their stuff is good and so is their service. I have been using them for a couple of years now. There are a lot of positive reviews about kitsnmore on this forum. Some say the product is weaker comparing mg to mg with authentic labeled meds, but to me the difference is small and the price is much much less.

For me, all the ED meds last longer than advertized. I can feel liquid C fairly strongly after 48 hours and still moderately at 72 hours. The liquid L is still working after 12 hours for me.


Horny Bastard

yes mravg: kits is tops.

I’m wanting to order the liquid var/levitra,,,just my budget says no. I hope they include in the future the liq L as a buy one get one free deal !

And yes, kits liquid c stays n stays! I try at times to clean my system out,,,but after 3 days…it still has lingering effects.

Or maybe I’m getting over my ED problems ??? !!!! lol

Was thinking of ordering some liquid C from Kits. Anyone know if there are problems delivering to Europe, possibly Switzerland? Wonder if the customs let it through.

dawnsong: their outta stock at present…and not sure as to what their doing!?

There are quite a few of us awaiting their new price list/ and if they will continue selling liquid cialis.

Thanks for the info webslave. I’ll check the sources listed on your website then :-)

Thank you to Web and Mravg for responding, I would imagine these inquiries are somewhat repetetive for you gentlemen. Perhaps either of you would care to offer your opinion on some of the other products offered on the allday website which are purported to have similiar effects to the more well known products. Additionally, Web is the raw C powder just mixed with water?

Pepper

the allday meds…good quality..prompt service.

but that was my expericene.

the liq c homemade…look at my website, if you have questions feel free to buzz me

Originally Posted by webslave
the allday meds…good quality..prompt service.
but that was my expericene.
the liq c homemade…look at my website, if you have questions feel free to buzz me


Thanks Web,

Some of the anti-aromatase compounds in liquid form may be helpful to some guys as well. Femara and arimidex wiil decrease the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. This will increase testosterone levels a little bit, and that is all some people need to support healthy erectile function.

Pepper

graci DR Pepper…good to know

Sheesh … how long are Kitsnmore going to be out of Liq C? Have emailed them numerous times but of course, no reply. Will have to go down the path you did Web with the powder but need to get some accurate scales first I think.

You really don’t need scales shintaro. They would be handy but not really needed if you don’t order a big pile of powder.

I ordered from elitenet ,,,the 2 grams.easy to cut into halves/quarters.

Originally Posted by DR Pepper
Thanks Web,

Some of the anti-aromatase compounds in liquid form may be helpful to some guys as well. Femara and arimidex wiil decrease the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. This will increase testosterone levels a little bit, and that is all some people need to support healthy erectile function.

Pepper

Estrodiol has significant effects on libido as well as testosterone. An anti-aromatase would completely rid the body of estrogen and kill your libido. Femera did this to me. I would only use tihs to get rid of gyno AKA man boobs. Youre better off with a anti-estrogen like nolvadex or clomid for increasing testosterone levels.

Originally Posted by viroid
Estrodiol has significant effects on libido as well as testosterone. An anti-aromatase would completely rid the body of estrogen and kill your libido. Femera did this to me. I would only use tihs to get rid of gyno AKA man boobs. Youre better off with a anti-estrogen like nolvadex or clomid for increasing testosterone levels.


Not bad Viroid,

You know more than most of my collegues. However, here’s the final word. Estradiol, is as you said very important to sex drive in men, this is why both femara and arimidex are used at very low doses (1/4 of the official dose and only twice a week due to the fact that the drug binds the aromatase enzyme for up to three days) 1/5 of a femara pill is actually effective. If used at the recommended doses, you wipe out estrogen and a your libido as well, I know many people who took too much femara and temporarily decreased their libido. In men over 40 or overweight men the aromatase enzyme is too active so tweaking it with these meds at low doses works wonderfully.

As for clomid and nolvadex, they will raise testosterone levels by blocking estrogen receptors in the hypothatmus, and since the body uses estrogen levels as part of the negitive feedback loop to determine testosterone levels, blocking estrogen receptors in the brain will fool the body into thinking it has low estrogen levels and low testosterone levels. The brain then tells the pituitary gland to tell the testicles to produce more testosterone. It works well, unfortunately these drugs are what are known as estrogen agonist/antagonist meds and they block estrogen receptors in some tissues and activate estrogen receptors in other tissues. The bad part is they activate estrogen receptors in muscle tissues, so even though they raise testosterone levels, they shrink your muscles, which alot of men, especially those who work out do not want. If smaller muscles doesnt bother you then these are the best choice. If smaller muscles are not desirable, then low dose femara or arimidex would be better choices for men over 40 looking to enhance their testosterone production. Of course one should always consult their physician.

Pepper

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If smaller muscles are not desirable, then low dose femara or arimidex would be better choices for men over 40 looking to enhance their testosterone production. Of course one should always consult their physician.

So how do people use this drug? Cycled like roids, or continuously? Is it an alternative method to HRT (testosterone patches etc)? Is this a strictly off label use or do doctors actually prescribe these drugs to men for the reasons you state? Thanks.


Horny Bastard

Originally Posted by mravg
So how do people use this drug? Cycled like roids, or continuously? Is it an alternative method to HRT (testosterone patches etc)? Is this a strictly off label use or do doctors actually prescribe these drugs to men for the reasons you state? Thanks.


For men over 40 but under 50 some anti-aging docs will use clomid/nolva to boost test production. HCG is also an option for under 50 and will not cause muscle size decrease. Over 50 and the testes arent really capable of producing youthful levels anymore so Hormone replacement is the only option. Arimidex/femara are often used in combo with test replacement in men over 50 to decrease conversion of test to estrogen. Ari/fem use alone w/o test for men over 40 is more rare but does work especially if conversion to estrogen is a problem, read my earlier post and you see that the doses are usually very low. Anything but androgel is considered off label, but a good anti-aging doc will go off label no problem. These methods are all used continously for the most part because the body needs test every day. I have seen docs give androgel to men as young as late thirties, dont agree, but have seen it. If you want to explore any other options besides androgel you will need an anti-aging doc who knows how to use compounding pharmacies.

Pepper

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