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Lost Cause - Progress and Self Motivation

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Lost Cause - Progress and Self Motivation

I’m creating this thread primarily to try to force me to be more accountable in my commitment to PE. This initial post will cover my PE history, and I’ll try to log my daily work. Comments are always welcome. All length measurements are BPEL. I take my measurements in mm, so I’ll show both the original measure and the inch conversion.

—- Measurements —-

* 163 x 122 (6.42” x 4.80”) - May 2012
* 173 x 128 (6.81” x 5.04”) - July 2013
* 175 x 135 (6.89” x 5.31”) - July 2014

May 2012 is the earliest recorded measurement I could find, and it also matches the date that I signed up on Thunders Place. I know that I lurked for at least a couple of months, and probably at least tried some basic PE stuff in that time. I also don’t know how accurate that measure is with regard to consistency of measuring between then and now. I had measured over 7” at some point last summer, but I think now I was being a little too generous in pressing against my bone. I will say that my initial impression of my penis was that I was thin and it certainly feels much thicker now. That being said, I can say with some certainty that I gained some girth. I feel like I haven’t actually gained length, but the girth gain may have disguised that a bit.

—- PE History —-

My original reason for trying PE was that I am a grower and had major insecurity issues about it. I’m not as concerned with flaccid size now, but I still occasionally have turtle issues to the point that it looks like I have a mini boner. Switching from boxers to relatively tight fitting briefs has greatly reduced the frequency of this occurring (mainly only at the gym now).

I have been on and off of routines many times, so consistency has been my biggest issue. I have recorded measurements from May 2012 to August 2012, and February 2013 to July 2013. I did some PE between then and now, but nothing for any more than a couple of weeks and I didn’t record any measurements in that time. Most of my work has been using the newbie routine. I found out early on that I have issues with keeping my erection down during the workouts. This has ultimately limited my ability to do stretching (I get erect after a couple of minutes). I am reluctant to move into erect stretches, but would be willing to give it a go if I can get through the newbie routine. Also, this means that I am typically in the 80%+ erection range during my jelqing. I’ve gotten used to it, and it’s actually a somewhat enjoyable feeling.

Aside from the newbie routine, the only other things I’ve really tried are fowfers, squeezes, and clamping. Now, here is the interesting thing. The period of minimal consistency in routine is where I gained most of my girth. This is the same period that I tried this alternate techniques. With regard to the squeezes, I’ve actually incorporated them in a sense to my normal masturbation. That being said, I’m not certain what to actually attribute my girth gains to. I’m currently leaning towards it being a mix of the fowfers and squeezes during masturbation. I’d like to experiment a bit to find out, but I may also just do a little bit of everything. If I get girth gains doing everything, that’s fine be me.

—- PE Routine Plan —-

I’m restarting on the newbie routine. To start, I’m going to avoid clamping and squeezes. I will continue to do fowfers for warm up and cooldown. After the 6 weeks of newbie routine are through, I’ll make revisions depending on the results. If the girth gains are not there, I’ll add squeezes and push back to heavier fowfer use (multiple hours per day and/or overnight). If the length gains are not there, I’ll perhaps try JAI stretching.

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—- Stealth for Men —-

I’ve purchased several, with the original intent being to prevent turtling. It does succeed in that purpose, but it is way too noticeable when being worn for my liking. I doubt that it alone would contribute to PE gains in any way. My most recent use for them was in conjunction with overnight bed fowfers. When wearing one, I have a much easier time keeping my penis stretched between my legs overnight without it slipping out. If I incorporate heavier fowfer use, I’d probably use the Stealth for the same purpose. One major issue I had with the Stealth was the strap that goes around the testicles. I have a thick attachment point where my scrotum attaches, so my testicles would often slip through. This was extremely uncomfortable, and required frequent adjusting and care to prevent pain. I’ve since gotten versions without the band, which are much more comfortable. Lastly, sizing is a major issue, and I had to place three orders to actually find the size that fit me well.

—- PE Hypnosis and Subliminal Messages —-

Aside from typical exercises, I’ve been trying other things like enlargement hypnosis, subliminal messages, and binaural beats. I’ll probably continue to do these for a while, though don’t really expect much of anything to come from it. At the very least, it puts me in a more optimistic frame of mind with regard to penis growth being attainable.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/13/14

10 minutes fowfers
10 stretches, 30 seconds (down, up, left, right, forward x2)
200 wet jelqs, 3 count (4 groups of 50)
50 kegels, 5 count
Hot shower cooldown

First day starting back on the newbie routine. Here’s to hoping that logging keeps me consistent with my PE routine.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/15/14

15 minutes fowfers
5x15 JAI stretches
200 wet jelqs
50 kegels

I decided to just switch to the JAI stretches immediately. I just feel like I’m not accomplishing anything with the normal 30 second stretches, and just end up getting near fully erect before finishing the 5 minutes of stretching. I was able to stay under 50% or so for the majority of the JAI stretches. I was pretty happy with the jelqs, and kept a pretty constant erection level throughout.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/16/14

10 minutes fowfers
5x15 JAI stretches
200 wet jelqs
Edging + 10x10 erect jelqs
50 kegels

Posting for yesterday. Erection dropped a bit on the last 50 jelqs. I decided to add the fully erect jelqs after (normal jelqs in the 80-90% range) while edging, and felt pretty good about it. I’ll probably try to keep these in my routine.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/18/14

15 minutes fowfers
5x15 JAI stretches
200 wet jelqs
10x10 erect jelqs
50 kegels

Overall a decent day. Last day at my old apartment before moving back home with my parents for the next half year to year, which is why this post is delayed. Privacy should still be alright (I am the only one using the upstairs bathroom), but it is still a little weird knowing there are people around that could potentially find me during the act, my lube, etc.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/20/14

10 minutes fowfers
5x15 JAI stretches
200 wet jelqs
4x10 erect jelqs
50 kegels

I missed 7/19 due to it being the first full day back home, and spending most of the day unpacking and such. I didn’t get a chance to take a shower until real late, and I was already quite tired.

I actually was in the lower spectrum of the erection level range during the jelqing, maybe 60-70%, which is quite unusual for me. I was quite close to finishing during the erect jelqs, so I stopped early. So definitely not a great day. Hoping it was just the new environment, and I will get back to normal soon.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/21/14

25 minutes fowfers
6x15 JAI stretches
250 wet jelqs
12x10 erect jelqs
60 kegels

Started the second week, so first step up. I have to say that this was easily the best session I’ve had since I restarted, and probably one of the best I’ve ever had. I just felt very good all the way through. I stayed under 60% for the stretches. Had a little bit of loose skin going on the first 50 jelqs, but that was resolved for the next 50. By the 5th set of 50, I was up to 100% erect, which is a great feeling. Then for my intentional erect jelqs, I was able to edge and keep it fully hard without feeling like I was going to finish. It certainly felt as though I had managed to pump it beyond my normal limits, which is a great feeling. Even after my post-session shower my semi looked and felt very large. In all, this was a great boost after a down day.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/23/14

20 minutes fowfers
6x15 JAI stretches
250 wet jelqs
12x alternating 5 kegels and 10 erect jelqs

Another good session, and my EQ has been very, very good the last few days. I decided to mix my kegels into the erect edging jelqs. While fully erect, I do 5 kegels. While holding the last kegel, I do 10 relatively high pressure jelqs and then repeat the kegels. My penis looked and felt quite thick for some time after, so I think I’ll continue to try this.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/24/14

30 minutes fowfers
6x15 JAI stretches
250 wet jelqs
12x alt. 5 kegels, 10 erect jelqs

I am continuing with the high EQ, so I guess I will keep up with what I’m doing. The alternating kegels and erect jelqs do make my post workout flaccid noticeably thicker and heavier, which is a nice feeling.

I will bump up the workload in the next session or two and I will be due for measurements again sometime after next weekend.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/26/14

80 minutes fowfers (oops)
7x15 JAI stretches
300 wet jelqs
14x alt. 5 kegels, 10 erect jelqs

Bumped up my workload, and everything felt good. I wasn’t paying attention to time during my fowfer, getting distracted while reading articles on Thunder’s. Also, I realized that without doing it intentionally, I’m holding a light reverse kegel through my jelqing. It could help explain the fact that I’m getting to 90-100% erect for my normal jelqing.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/27/14

25 minutes fowfers
7x15 JAI stretches
300 wet jelqs
70 kegels/140 erect jelqs

I was basically nearly full erect after the second JAI stretch set, and couldn’t calm myself down. So my stretches were not perfect today, as I did not want to pull as hard with the full erection. The jelqing was all good.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/29/14

50 minutes fowfers
10x15 JAI stretches
300 wet jelqs
Edging

I added some extra stretches, and I feel like I may want to add a little more to it still as I am spending quite a bit more time on girth work. Not sure why I chose to edge instead, I was pretty tired and kinda zoning out by the end of the session. I’ll go back to my alternating kegels and erect jelqs for my next session.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

7/31/14

30 minutes fowfers
8x15 JAI stretches
3x 30s stretch back between legs
300 erect jelqs
70 kegels

Missed a day. I wasn’t feeling very great and was already up past my planned bedtime, so I decided to skip.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

8/2/14

30 minutes fowfers
12x15 JAI stretches
350 wet jelqs
80 kegels

Missed a day again (one on one off the last 5 days). Starting a new job tomorrow, so I was distracted and nervous about that. I couldn’t stay over 90%, so most of my jelqs were in the 60-80% range.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

August Measurement

New measurements for August, and I’m happy with the results.

July: 175 x 135 (6.89” x 5.31”)
Aug: 180 x 140 (7.09” x 5.51”)

I hit my short-term goal of 7.0” x 5.5”, so I’ve updated my goal to a longer term 8.0” x 5.75”.

This is only 3 weeks since the last measurement, or halfway through the newbie routine. I am assuming that the bulk of the gain is from improved EQ. I will see where I stand after the newbie routine, but I will definitely be shifting my focus to length. The 8” length goal is my main focus, and I would likely even be content with my current girth if I can get to the 8” length.


163 x 122 (6.42" x 4.80") - May 2012

181 x 142 (7.13" x 5.59") - September 2014

204 x 153 (8.00" x 5.75") - Goal

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