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Why Pumpers Will Experience NO GAINS

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This doesn’t apply to me. If I pump everyday my PI’s begin to suffer and I’m not an intense pumper either.


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Everyone is different.. I used to pump up to 10 on the gauge and got no-where, now am down to no more than 6 and am slowly gaining.. Surprised even myself the difference it has made.

The human body is a wondrous thing - but no two are exactly the same :)


Was - NBPEL 6.5" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" Now - NPBEL 8.1" BPEL 8.7" MSEG 6.3"

Originally Posted by oz
Everyone is different.. I used to pump up to 10 on the gauge and got no-where, now am down to no more than 6 and am slowly gaining.. Surprised even myself the difference it has made.

The human body is a wondrous thing - but no two are exactly the same :)

Less is more is often underestimated. Under too much stress the tissue just kind of locks up as tight as it can because otherwise there is a chance of injury. Sometimes you have to coax your gains with a little tender care. I cant wait to start pumping. I am so incredibly close to 8” bp….then begins the girth fun.


Starting (10 / 2006): 5.8~BPEL, 5~BG ----> Current: 7.6 BPEL, 5.6 BG ----> Goal: Pringles Can

Sunlight on a plant will stimulate growth. If the sun is too intense, it will kill it. Lifting weights properly will stimulate size and strength gains, doing too much will tear them down and make you weaker.

So,it is with PE. Find the right amount of stimulus to the right amount of recovery (FOR YOU) and you will gain size. Over or under do it, and you won’t. NO ONE can tell you what will work for you. They can point you in the right direction, but only you can read your body’s responses and adjust your routine until it is productive.

Some guys have a very wide window of positive response, and some have a very narrow window…its always an individual thing to find what works for you.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
Sunlight on a plant will stimulate growth. If the sun is too intense, it will kill it. Lifting weights properly will stimulate size and strength gains, doing too much will tear them down and make you weaker.

So,it is with PE. Find the right amount of stimulus to the right amount of recovery (FOR YOU) and you will gain size. Over or under do it, and you won’t. NO ONE can tell you what will work for you. They can point you in the right direction, but only you can read your body’s responses and adjust your routine until it is productive.

Some guys have a very wide window of positive response, and some have a very narrow window…its always an individual thing to find what works for you.

Wisest words of this thread.

Also, I haven’t seen any talk here regarding heat/warmup. Either that or I missed it. Is heat not an important enough factor to pumping to be mentioned?

Originally Posted by Jawbone
Wisest words of this thread.

Also, I haven’t seen any talk here regarding heat/warmup. Either that or I missed it. Is heat not an important enough factor to pumping to be mentioned?

I thought heat was more of less a given in all PE related endeavours, but having never pumped before I cant definitively say one way or another.

So what say you pump-masters? Heat before each session?


Starting (10 / 2006): 5.8~BPEL, 5~BG ----> Current: 7.6 BPEL, 5.6 BG ----> Goal: Pringles Can

I tried water pumping every day and what I noticed was that my BPFSL shrank and after a day or two I could no longer match the length in the cylinder that I started out with even though I really cranked up the pressure. My EQ also went down the drain.

For me, less is more in this aspect.

I`ve been experimenting with: 1 core workout day followed by a lighter maintenance day and then back to the core workout or possibly 1 day off before I resume.

Seems to work for me ;)

The only way every day pumping could work for me would be if I kept the volume and intensity very light. But then I`m not sure if I would have gotten enough expansion to gain.

Has anyone used ADS after the have done there pumping routine? I will be planing on using mine on payday. Just wondering if there would be any benefits long term.


Starting stats: 7" EL x 5" EG Current stats: 7.1" EL x 5.125" EG Goal : 7.5" x 5.75"

I agree generally with what you are saying! I think it’s a little reductive to say if you smoke or drink caffeine you won’t get gains— I do both and get great gains, although you are correct that they don’t necessarily help. However, there is a product called NO-Explode that has caffeine and also encourages erections. :-)


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Is that a body building supplement? I have seen that around when I get my protein shakes. Wasn’t sure if it was a pre-workout/post work out drink.


Starting stats: 7" EL x 5" EG Current stats: 7.1" EL x 5.125" EG Goal : 7.5" x 5.75"

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I do appreciate you posting what you have found to work for you, and believe it or not, I am currently working with that very concept.


Sparkyx — I’m curious about this comment. I’ve read your PI threads, and I thought it was you who gave an example about your own conclusions regarding “less is more” working for you. I could be thinking of someone else on the thread, but I thought it was you who even gave the example of finding that something like 5-10 minutes of pumping was enough and any more decreased EQ. If that is the case, which concept is it that you are currently trying? Longer pump sessions or the light sessions on “rest days?”

This thread is making me consider the staying erect in the tube aspect. I always go in erect, and make sure I can get fully erect after each session, but it is always the pump that KEEPS me erect for the 10-15 minute sessions. When I release the pressure, I always deflate to a semi because I usually just relax while in the tube and don’t make an effort to keep myself mentally stimulated. Not even sure how successful I’d be at doing that for that long, without resorting to porn which I try to avoid.

Originally Posted by computerguy
Sparkyx — I’m curious about this comment.



Yeah, I (somewhere) stated guys fall in 3 catagories. 1) More is more> 2) Less is more. 3) Less is more, slowly becoming more is more.

I MAY be sliding into the 3rd catagory, not sure yet. I have been experimenting with 3-4 in hg for “work” days, and 2-3 in hg on “recovery” days. I will use 3-4 inches for apx 3 sets of 15 minutes until my EQ really starts to drop, then go to the same time but with 2-3 in hg until EQ comes back up to high levels and then repeat the cycle.

I figure do this constantly for about a month or two, and then take a couple weeks off. This is just my current experiment, no results to report yet.

Originally Posted by computerguy
I could be thinking of someone else on the thread, but I thought it was you who even gave the example of finding that something like 5-10 minutes of pumping was enough and any more decreased EQ.

I have found is just 1 in hg makes a very big difference for me, putting it in an entirely different category. For example, at 5 in hg, about 5-10 minutes is still about all I can tolerate, but if I drop it to 2 in hg, I can tolerate much longer, as a matter of fact it becomes more like an artificial very high erection level, and can act as a method of recovery.

However, 2 in hg, for me isn’t enough to produce gains, unless I start going more than 1 hour (just guessing). However, I find if I push up to 4 in hg, it starts to create expansion, however at 15 min sets, it starts to generate edema.

So, if you find you overtrain easily with girth work, the pump (with gauge) will allow you to alter the perimeters in a very precise manor, and allow you to explore what the different vacuum levels do for you.

As one guy on this thread just said, 10 in hg did nothing for him, but at 6 he is making gains. Consider it when pumping.

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