Whats The Issue With Edema?

So i know i have seen plenty of threads where people talk about avoiding Edema while pumping etc but im not sure why. I routinely pump now for 30-40 mins at 5hg with occasional spikes to 10hg to keep stretching it a bit more and more throughout the session. So far i love it and have gained damn near .75” in length since i started PE 6 months ago.

However as time in the pump has increased i notice i come out just a bit puffy and you cant really see the bulging veins etc that i normally have. I massage it away and it usually goes away within 15-20 mins or less. Is this bad? I just looked at it as a way to stretch the skin and get ready for new growth. However i havent really grown much at all girth wise(which is what im really after) and I’m wondering if this is a reason. I have a primary suspect as to why no girth gains even though pumping is supposed to be primarily for that but i guess i should consider the edema as well. So what say you vets?

There is tons written on edema in the pumping forum. The search bar will pull up posts from threads that mention it.

Perhaps i just didnt do a good enough search but i have searched before and most of what i find is people talking about how to avoid it or what they are doing thats causing it etc but the closest i came to finding someone spell out why its bad is firegoat saying that the skin can sag over time if you get edema often enough and bad enough. To me that isnt as much a concern as my skin is very tight on my shaft now and is probably one of the things inhibiting girth growth. My question i guess is does edema interfer with gains or what is the main reason for people avoiding it so much. My view has been oh well so i got a little puffiness but i was about to get a longer stretch and got an extra 1/8”+ LUV then i would if i stopped earlier in the session to totally avoid edema.

The short of it is that it inhibits gains for the most part. The reason being is that fluid buildup does not cause stretch in the structures that need to stretch and deform to cause permanent girth growth.

Ok that is a very good reason to avoid it lol. I have been getting what seem like constant and fairly easy length gains but hardly any girth im guessing your right and thats a big part of the reason. The second thing i was suspecting and maybe you can give your opinion as your extremely well versed in pumping is i have a decent turkey neck. As i pump more and more of this turkey neck gets pulled into the tube causing me to pack a large part of my shaft but its not really from shaft expansion but rather the excess skin. So the penis ends up getting pulled lengthwise very effectively which is why i have grown that way alot but not much girth. Or at least thats my theory lol. The question becomes should i opt for a larger tube where even with the skin being pulled in i wont pack it? Or should i just try and get all my length goal out of the way and later focus on girth?

Whats your stats and what size tube are you using? You may need a smaller tube.

Started at 6.125”BPEL and between 4.9 and 5.0MSEG and have used a 1.75” tube. Currently am like 6.8”BPEL and 5.2MSEG using the same tube.

+1.

Also, if edema is happening a lot itnseems to “train” the flesh to make the edema easier and easier. That is one of the mechanisms that fetish pumpers train so that after years they can fill 3” tubes etc.
Edema in a snug tube can be problematic for girth, because once the edema fills the tube the girth stretch forces on the CCs decrease dramatically.

If you want girth gains try keeping your pump session much shorter in minutes, because the edema is a time based thing and less minutes generally means less edema. But while keeping the pump session shorter also try to get very hard aroused which maximises the outward girth stretch force.

So right now i am doing 30-40 minutes of pumping at 5hg mostly and have zero discomfort or redspots etc besides the little bit of edema. Would you think say a 15 minute session would serve me better? Should i up the pressure to make up for the lower time? Thank you

Learn about the lymphatic system and lymphedema. When the lymph system is traumatized or simply not working (for reasons other than trauma) the results are bad. My personal rule is that if the edema from pumping does not resolve in 24 hours then I: take a break from pumping; and reduce the amount of vacuum and/or reduce the amount of time.

Yeah 24 hours is crazy ive never pumped where it wasnt back to looking 100% normal in less then an hour. Usually i finish pumping and its a bit puffy but i do firegoat rolls and a massage and most of the time it is back to normal by the end of that. Some times it will still be plump but that goes away quickly after that. Either way having learned it is impeding my girth growth i will aim for zero puffiness or edema as girth is what im mainly after. Time for bigger pressure for shorter duration i guess!

I got very little edema using gprent’s incremental pump routine. He incrementally raises pressure over the course of the 35 minute work-out. I gained some as well.

Maybe give it a go. He does modify part way through the thread, so don’t go for the routine on Page 1.

Incremental Pump Routine Results

Modified routine

gprent - Incremental Pump Routine Results

Hi, the edema and 30-40 mins at 5Hg are only some of your training factors.
Are you getting tube packing? (Not just the base but mid and upper shaft too). And if so, how many minutes does it take? And during the 30-40 mins are you pulling out of the tube for regular massage breaks? All those things will make a difference in you amount of edema and amount of actual CC girth stretch.

No im not packing the tube aside from the first 2 to 2.5” at the base. No I havent been pulling it out of the tube. I tried 10 mins of pumping today cycling between 5hg for 3 seconds and 10hg for 3 seconds. Got the same stretch or even perhaps a bit more then i do with 30 or 40 minutes at 5hg. Still some Edema but less so.

10 Hg might be a bit high, and 10 mins is not quite enough time (in my opinion).

Try cycling 4-7 or 4-8 Hg (after some light warmup pumping) , and maybe 20 minutes duration. And if you want girth gains try to get hard aroused in the tube, it increases the total girth stretch force. :)