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Pumping on low hg for high hg guys

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Pumping on low hg for high hg guys

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I bought a pump and cylinder 3-4 years ago from v-tech. I must have measured for my cylinder wrong because the 2” with 1.75” opening was way too big. I pumped on and off trying to get the cylinder to work but usually gave up before spending enough time on it. Finally, a couple of months ago, I bought a 1.25” cylinder and started pumping again. Over the years, I have been able to use high level suction. I worked my way up again over the last couple of months. Everybody talks about staying below 5 hg. What I don’t understand is how do you guys expand with such little suction. It takes me two hours of 10-20 minute sets, working my way past 7hg just to get hardly any expansion at all. So many posts here have guys complaining of donuts after three ten minute sessions of under 5 hg. I don’t start to donut until after I go above 7, 8, or even past 9hg, and it takes me at least 2 hours to work into that.

Here is the thing, I don’t want to be a high suction guy. I don’t want to risk injury. And there is a major limit in how much girth you can gain with high suction because you can only go so high. But how do you guys get any benefit from low suction? Is there some techniques that I am missing out on. Do you somehow just magically start to expand under suction levels that used to do something after a given period of time? The only change I have made is becoming more sensitive to lower levels-feeling greater pleasure. In my first hour, I don’t go above 4hg or 5hg, and it is very nice, but no expansion. I’ve tried including jelqs at times. What must a high hg guy do to start to expand at low hg?

P.S. I don’t have any trouble achieving length increase, but the length does not last at all, I will look into all day hangs for keeping that.

I pump 3 times a week

usually two sessions to get massive, and one more mild pleasure session.

So once again, How does a high hg guy convert to low hg?

First, I would start pumping more frequently, so you can start building on the previous days results. For a weekly schedule go 3 on 1 off, 2 on 1 off, or go 6 on 1 off.

Second, do you hot wrap before pumping?

Third, I use an electric heat pad for my hot wrap, and also wrap the tube in it while pumping, so I am always warm and this aids in expansion. I also pre-heat my tube in the oven, set at 130 degrees F.

Forth, while pumping, I milk the tube and also preform kegels.

Just a few ideas for you.

Originally Posted by gprent101
First, I would start pumping more frequently, so you can start building on the previous days results. For a weekly schedule go 3 on 1 off, 2 on 1 off, or go 6 on 1 off.

Second, do you hot wrap before pumping?

Third, I use an electric heat pad for my hot wrap, and also wrap the tube in it while pumping, so I am always warm and this aids in expansion. I also pre-heat my tube in the oven, set at 130 degrees F.

Forth, while pumping, I milk the tube and also perform kegels.

Just a few ideas for you.

Yeah, I use heating pad, I also milk the tube and kegel sometimes. 3 days on, 1 off would be different for me though, but if I did 3 days in a row of, let’s say, 3 sets of 10 min no more that 5 hg…. I still wouldn’t be building off of yesterday’s results since, as of right now, that would not get me any results to build off of.

Tiger’s pumping site says that you can develop the ability to expand easier on lower hg, as of now, I don’t expand at all unless I go higher. Heating pads and warm water don’t really seem to make that huge of a difference so far.

Aside from using ‘tricks’ like heating pads…ect… How do you expand easier on lower suction? There has to be some progressive scheme I can follow, or something.

Originally Posted by Vegeto
Yeah, I use heating pad, I also milk the tube and kegel sometimes. 3 days on, 1 off would be different for me though, but if I did 3 days in a row of, let’s say, 3 sets of 10 min no more that 5 hg…. I still wouldn’t be building off of yesterday’s results since, as of right now, that would not get me any results to build off of.

Aside from using ‘tricks’ like heating pads…ect… How do you expand easier on lower suction? There has to be some progressive scheme I can follow, or something.

OK then, let’s work on a progressive scheme. First off let me start by saying that I believe your cock has a memory, a size memory, and it is that memory we are trying to change in order for it to expand to a new larger state. I think doing PE for 3 days per week, or on an every other day schedule, is the worst possible routine, because it allows your cock to fully recover and revert back to it’s original size memory. In order to alter the size memory, you have to string your PE routines together, so you can build off the previous days stretch.

I hope your schedule allows for a 6 day on and 1 day off cycle for at least the next 2 weeks. Do something like three 15 minute sets at 7 inhg, similar to what you do now. After the last set, put on a cock ring if you have one and do an erect massage for 10-15 minutes.

See what your results are like after one week, and if it seems like you are getting somewhere, go for the 2nd week of 6 on and 1 off.

Although this routine is still at 7 inhg, I am hoping you will start seeing results within the 45 minute time frame which will be an improvement over the 2 hours. If so, just contiune on with 6 on 1 off and pump in the 6 to 7 inhg range from then on.

Thanks!!
I wasn’t sure how to ask, but I think you defiantly got it! I was trying to understand progressive scheme. So many posts of… ‘I do ________, ______times per week….

I see different program setups, but I wanted to understand the way that they work. The thing you said about memory makes sense to me, because by the time I get to my next session, I have already returned to my original size, and have to start over from the beginning. I suppose it is like when you make money, you save some, and spends some, and you want to have some left in your account before your next check so you can build a larger account (penis).

I will try to do something like this, and I will still continue my search for how to respond better with really low suction.

many thanks

Originally Posted by Vegeto
I will try to do something like this, and I will still continue my search for how to respond better with really low suction.

I think the routine I suggested is the key for you responding to lower vacuum levels. The primary factor being consecutive PE days, like 6 on and 1 off. If it starts working for you, then I believe lower pressures will work for you. But for an experienced pumper, being in the 5-7 range is not too high a pressure.

Sometimes I wonder if these gauges are calibrated correctly. I suspect some are off, high or low.

I think a good rule of thumb is red spotting. Red spotting indicates the capillaries are rupturing. Early warning sign. Go beyond that with greater vacuum and you will have progressively larger structures(veins, arteries) failing.

So, I say slowly work up to where after 10-15 minutes you begin to see small red spots (try 5 in hg for 15 min,then check. If good next try 6 in hg for 15 min and check, etc). When you first notice spotting, you now know that is slightly above your upper zone. Drop down by 1 in hg and see if the spotting stops.

For example, I can do almost any time combinations at or below 5 in hg, and I’m fine. If I go to 6 in hg or above, I start to have trouble. Obviously, the higher I go, the faster I get into deeper trouble (don’t ask how I know).

I think many of you guys that say they don’t get any expansion at those levels, may have a gauge that is out of calibration.

Anyway, if you use the spotting as a guide, I think it will tell you your highest, safe range to pump in.

Regards,
Sparkyx

Vegeto,

I hear what you are saying. I go to higher pressures than many on the board, typically 7-8 but sometimes to 10 if I’m double condom pumping. But I keep my sessions short, no longer than 10 minutes, often 8. If you do this you definitely have to watch the injury meter. I got some red spotting/bruising a few months ago that required a month ago to heal. Part of it I think had to do with leaving the condoms on between sets that winded up trapping blood on the underside of my tally. I was also using lubricated condoms and the lube was eating away at my skin. I’ve learned that lesson.

I use a one day on, one day off. I feel it works for me. I feel some use/mild soreness the next day and if pump consecutive days the quality of my workouts goes down. I think the recovery aspect of it is important.

I have never done the multi-day/lower pressure schedule along the lines that gprent points out. It’s more of a gradual approach and many attest to it. But by all means you should try it and experiment with other approaches as well and see what works best.

Tally

I’d attach a heating pad to the tube if it wasn’t for the lube..

Originally Posted by UlcasterDropout
I’d attach a heating pad to the tube if it wasn’t for the lube..

I don’t get your dilemma. I use a water based lube and wrap my tube with a heating pad. Please explain why you can’t.

gprent101 has a good point. You know the lube is for you penis, not
the outer surface of the tube, right ;-)

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Originally Posted by sparkyx
Sometimes I wonder if these gauges are calibrated correctly. I suspect some are off, high or low.

I think a good rule of thumb is red spotting. Red spotting indicates the capillaries are rupturing. Early warning sign. Go beyond that with greater vacuum and you will have progressively larger structures(veins, arteries) failing.
Regards,
Sparkyx

Red spotting is something I never experience from pumping, I did get a lot of red spotting when I first started jelquing though, not anymore. I think I’ll just try to stay in the pleasure zone, and not push those boundaries.

As far as my gauge goes, it is a mityvac <—-(spelling?)

It’s strange being an experienced pumper with not much experience pumping properly.
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Originally Posted by BigFatLuvRocket
gprent101 has a good point. You know the lube is for you penis, not
the outer surface of the tube, right ;-)

BFLR

LOL!!

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I switched to 3 sets (10min, 10min, + 15min) 6 nights a week.

Interesting note, I always use a heating pad, but I haven’t kept it around my cylinder during sets since I first started pumping. I didn’t see much results with a heating pad then, but expansion is a little better at low suction with a heating pad now. Still nothing special though. I am not going higher than about 5hg right now, (up to 7 at last part of last set), because 3 10-15min sets isn’t enough time to work up to really high suction. <——Which I guess is a good thing, but I wish I had the discipline to keep it under 5, but I go numb to the lower suction sensations after a given period of time.

Last night, I kept about .5 in of length I gained from my pump session. Usually My erections go back to normal length after 2min or so. Erections also harder, not much girth increase, YET . I think I’ll stick with this 6 days on, 1 day off schedule to see how it works out.

Too bad I usually want to rub one out after session! I’d see faster gains if I could wait a few hours! :D

I’ve experienced exactly what you mention regarding the Hg levels required. I had always thought that peoples numbers were on the low side, or that my gauge was faulty. A ‘normal’ level for me would be 8-9Hg, and anything less would not be even as strong as a regular erection. That all changed recently.

I started doing mechanical streching for at least 3 hours, and up to 6 hours per day, every day. I used the pump for the first time since starting this routine after 10 or 11 days and noticed that 5 Hg produced a very full erection that was slightly uncomfortable as if that level was too high. I’ve no idea what made this difference except that I’m using just under 4lb traction for 3-6 hours per day for the last couple of weeks.

Shiver,

Are you getting results with that routine?

Sparkyx

Originally Posted by gprent101

I don’t get your dilemma. I use a water based lube and wrap my tube with a heating pad. Please explain why you can’t.

‘Cause I do hand exercises between sets and my hands get slimy.

The tube, handle, hose, all get lube on them.

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