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Dynamic pumping resource and discussion.

Originally Posted by Mike1958
Pump with controlled leak: Pumping to 5” Hg, stop pumping, then gradually decreasing the vacuum with a controlled leak (valve) thereby lessening the exposure of the penis to vacuum. This approach subjects the penis to spikes in vacuum but only for a short time and is the method that the Mr. Fantastic pump system uses.

Mike, that is certainly how the Mr F pumps work. However you can prolong the max vac time by temporarily closing down the leak. However I am not sure that is a good idea as the extended time at a high vacuum may cause unacceptable stresses on your penis (blisters etc). You can also change the pump up part of the curve by slowing down the pump so the pump is expelling air just above the rate the leak it letting it in. That way you have a longer period at fairly high vacuums before the pump switches off. In the pump off part of the cycle I find the rate of vac decline seems to decline as the vac decreases so a fair proportion is in the range 5 - 4” Hg.

There is a lot to work to do here including optimising the pump cycle profile if we can call it that.

Regards
Austfred

Originally Posted by raptor6
Also the orientation of the pump.

It seems to me that :

1) when you sit on a chair (ass and thighs fully on it), with the pump parallel to the ground, you will get a lower enlargement inside the cylinder,

2) comparing to a situation where you sit on a couch (only a part of the ass) with the cylinder pointing down.

As you work a bigger portion of the inner penis. This is the same with jelqing sitted vs standing.

Don’t forget to protect the head with a condom or with compression bandage to avoid blisters.

Dynamic pumping is only for very advanced pumping users (several years of experience).

Raptor,

This seems correct. I would expect the max penis length inside the cyl occurs when the base of the cyl is at right angles to the pubic bone (ie pointing down a bit when you are standing. I do my pumping lying down in bed and most of the time that is the angle I achieve. However I am not sure that pumping at a different angle where the fat pad compensates and leaves a bit of the penis base outside would make much difference to the effectiveness of the pump.

Regards
Austfred

Originally Posted by raptor6
Also the orientation of the pump.

It seems to me that :

1) when you sit on a chair (ass and thighs fully on it), with the pump parallel to the ground, you will get a lower enlargement inside the cylinder,

2) comparing to a situation where you sit on a couch (only a part of the ass) with the cylinder pointing down.

What I do is sit back on my couch and put a folded hand towel under the tube so it is angled upward so my cock is at a very natural angle to my body.

I am always moving or shaking the tube and am especially fond of reverse milking, where I bone press the tube into my crotch and release and this gives me maximum length extension into the tube.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Curious if anyone has tried this lowering the cycle peak suction by a half or third but doubling the duration .. Example from going cycling 3-12 for an hour switched it up and went 3-7 for an hour and a half or two

In my opinion might be useful for everyone in this forum the result of penile ecography of those who make some gains by dynamic pumping to see immediately if the gains are real or not (if the gains are result of real expansion of albuginea and corpora cavernosa or only fluid retention between tunica and skin, plus considering veins conditions after this kind of pumping). What do you think about?

Any more verdict or news on this method?

Originally Posted by satyrus
In my opinion might be useful for everyone in this forum the result of penile ecography of those who make some gains by dynamic pumping to see immediately if the gains are real or not (if the gains are result of real expansion of albuginea and corpora cavernosa or only fluid retention between tunica and skin, plus considering veins conditions after this kind of pumping). What do you think about?

Good point

I have been dynamically pumping for about 2 years with some interruptions. I started out doing it manually with a Leluv hand set up and quickly moved to a Mr Fantastic air pump. In the first year I increased my MSEG from 5” to 5.5” mainly using the Mr Fantastic. Moved onto a Mr Fantastic water pump and then had some breaks caused by a house move and a number of blisters.

Believe the water pump must make blisters more likely with the glans water interface under vacuum. Anyway the glans protector with baby powder fixed that. Over the last few months my expansion in the cylinder has improved with packing a 2 1/8” cyl up to the groove now occurring within a few mins of pumping. My MSEG (after a day’s non pumping rest) is yet to increase again but my post pump MSEG easily exceeds 6”. It must involve short term fluid retention. I should add I have changed my pumping routine since I have solved the blister issue and now do two 1 hour sessions (morning and evening) at 3 - 16” Hg rather than the single 1 hr 4 - 14” session I had been doing. Have had no recent injuries, EQ has been great and I think I am now starting to get very slight increases in MSEG again but not enough to be sure. In 6 months time I might have a better idea. The wife has noticed a difference and is enjoying the tighter fit. I have to work harder at getting it in.

Have not measured any length gains but hope to take up extending again soon to get to the magic 7” BEPL. Almost there from the last measurement I did some time ago.

Regards
Austfred

Regarding measuring gains - I think Austfred has the right idea - measure after at least 1 day of non-pumping and maybe even 2 or 3 days of non-pumping to allow edema to resolve. I think most of us will agree that edema is a major source of immediate gains from pumping. I believe changes in EQ should be noted immediately and continuously.

I am happy with a 30 second cycle for 15 minutes at 2-5” Hg for purposes of improved EQ with no edema. This routine can be done twice a day. However, I do not think this routine is enough to produce significant gains in girth and length.

Originally Posted by Mike1958
Regarding measuring gains - I think Austfred has the right idea - measure after at least 1 day of non-pumping and maybe even 2 or 3 days of non-pumping to allow edema to resolve. I think most of us will agree that edema is a major source of immediate gains from pumping. I believe changes in EQ should be noted immediately and continuously.

I am happy with a 30 second cycle for 15 minutes at 2-5” Hg for purposes of improved EQ with no edema. This routine can be done twice a day. However, I do not think this routine is enough to produce significant gains in girth and length.

I was told a pumping routine such as yours will improve EQ and make a more alive flaccid. Mind commenting?

Some guys have poor EQ and dont reach max size or max hardness as a result.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I was told a pumping routine such as yours will improve EQ and make a more alive flaccid. Mind commenting?

Some guys have poor EQ and dont reach max size or max hardness as a result.

I’ve found dynamic pumping great for EQ, 10-20mins is plenty.

Originally Posted by djrobins
I was told a pumping routine such as yours will improve EQ and make a more alive flaccid. Mind commenting?
Some guys have poor EQ and dont reach max size or max hardness as a result.

I think my routine (as described above) helps EQ. I am not quite sure I know what “alive flaccid” means. I believe that flaccid length is largely determined by both environmental factors (temperature, time of day, etc) and physiology especially the central nervous system. For example, a relaxed guy with no penis trauma or edema, late in the day, sitting in a hot tub (103 degree F water) will have a long flaccid hang. Throw this guy in an icy river and his penis and scrotum will draw up as close as possible to the body. All this is regardless of this guy’s PE routine. Evolution has made us this way. I am also one of those guys that thinks “turtling” is an important part of penis health and should not be discouraged.

As for the importance of EQ, I agree 100%. For me, what good is increased length and girth if stamina, sensitivity and rigidity are missing?

Originally Posted by Mike1958
I think my routine (as described above) helps EQ. I am not quite sure I know what “alive flaccid” means. I believe that flaccid length is largely determined by both environmental factors (temperature, time of day, etc) and physiology especially the central nervous system. For example, a relaxed guy with no penis trauma or edema, late in the day, sitting in a hot tub (103 degree F water) will have a long flaccid hang. Throw this guy in an icy river and his penis and scrotum will draw up as close as possible to the body. All this is regardless of this guy’s PE routine. Evolution has made us this way. I am also one of those guys that thinks “turtling” is an important part of penis health and should not be discouraged.

As for the importance of EQ, I agree 100%. For me, what good is increased length and girth if stamina, sensitivity and rigidity are missing?

For “alive flaccid” I meant exactly that. Just being at calm and peace with yourself and your flaccid hanging well as a result.

EQ is important, some of our PE routines kills EQ when it’s time to get a real erection. Sometimes its our life or stress or tramatic events we went thru.

Number of points raised here

Mike1958

>Regarding measuring gains - I think Austfred has the right idea - measure after at least 1 day of non-pumping and maybe even 2 or 3 days of non-pumping to allow edema to resolve. I think most of us will agree that edema is a major source of immediate gains from pumping. I believe changes in EQ should be noted immediately and continuously.

Firstly I was advised to wait a week to get real ‘cemented gains’ measurement after pumping but I think in my case at least most of the fluid build up has receded after 24 hours. Anyway Junior is sex ready then which is not always the case after pumping as the plumpiness works against hardness.

Not sure I would go as far as describing my state of fluid build up as edema. When I first started water pumping and was not packing the cylinder I was getting donuts (behind the glans) or obvious edemas mid shaft which showed as a large soft bulge on one side of the shaft. A silicone sleeve used during pumping fixed that. Since I now pack the cylinder I just use a short sleeve just behind the glans protector to help hold it in place and stop excessive fluid build up in the front part of my foreskin .

I find post pump jelqing helps reduce fluid.

djrobins

>I was told a pumping routine such as yours { Mike’s} will improve EQ and make a more alive flaccid. Mind commenting?

I cannot comment on Mike’s routine but I have found dynamic pumping generally has been magic for EQ. It was ED issues that got me into pumping after reading Avocet8’s posts and convinced me to buy a Mr Fantastic pump. Never regretted it.

As far as flaccids go I now have a huge (at least for me) flaccid post pump both in terms of girth and length. However I have never focused on flaccid size at it can vary so much depending on temperature etc and how you feel etc as Mike writes. The same factors affect how low my balls hang.

Austfred

Equipment used: Pulsar
Length of time used: <2 months

1.)Duration: I’ve worked up to 40 minutes consistently on a daily basis but I started out with building up to 10 minutes moving forward from there. The longest session I’ve had to date is 50-55 minutes but this doesn’t happen often.
2.)Upper Vacuum level: Going off my experience so far I would have to say 8hg is a standard I always attain in every session as I want to be using the variable pumping setting known as “Pulsar” fully erect. I will also always hit 11hg which is the maximum pressure on the device under the “maximum” work out setting for the final 5-10 minutes. I use a pyramid type training where I warm up with fire rolls x 50 reps minimum and x 50-100 lubed jelqs and start at 5hg at the lowest tempo setting 5%
3.) I will sometimes drop down or re-adjust positioning with the cylinder on my pubic bone as I’m trying to attack my ligaments as much as possible with the elliptical cylinder.
4.) Undecided as I find switching between a frequency of 5% and then suddenly going to 100% on same workout program and pressure level most effective so far. I don’t think this really answers the original question at the top of page 1 but hopefully it’s helpful to the team.

I’ve been hunting around for a ADS sleeve - anti turtle etc as well as a pump sleeve as I feel the universal sleeve is ok but requires significant improvement to be worth purchasing again. I’ve checked out other threads using the search engine above and it seems like the most talked about products are the following:

1.) Stealthwear
2.) AutoXsleeve
3.) ABSilicone

I could be missing some major ones but I’m open to suggestions. The ABSilicone looked appealing but strength wise unsure and obviously most pumping lube is petroleum based which for anything silicone based is never good. I know it’s enforced with a steel hammer about going off topic to the thread but I feel it’s pretty common ground to dynamic pumping.

Any questions fire away. PE members helping each other out is what this is all about.

I had a question for the manufacture of the Pulsar with regards to unlocking the restricted vacuum levels by unscrewing the back and modifying the electronics from there. His response is as follows.

“The vacuum limit is controlled by software and is programmed into the Pulsar’s computer. There are no user adjustment possible. We have discovered over the years that lower vacuum levels produce faster and more uniform results no matter what the forms say”

This is part of his response but is the meat and potatoes of my question.

Again my experience so far is I require a higher level than 4-5hg to be fully extended to get any sort of results. However I thought posting this would be helpful to anyone curious.

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