Anybody's input on the bathmate

My bath mate and I have tried some pretty interesting positions too, some in the shower but she is very flexible. :)

Behemoth” been there done that with my woman too. Its been a few though.:-)

So what’s you’re theory on this bath-mate behemoth? Have you tried it yet?

My theory on the Bathmate is it is over priced with and with no gauge could be dangerous, I am not against water pumping or pumping in general, in fact I built my own air pump from a water bottle,

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And a few fittings from the hardware store, you can get an gauge online pretty cheap too.

Even though I’m not into the Bathmate I am thinking of digging my pump out to get involved in some of the dynamic stuff that is going on, as that plays well to my sense of what should work,

Homemade Mr. Fantastic Pumping

No the Bathmate is not for me, but each to their own :)

I have been using it for 2 months. Although I haven’t seen any change in length, there is a visible increase in girth even with my weekends-off routine. I only started jelqing and stretching a week ago, so the visible increase in girth was most likely due to pumping unless the girth-fairy exists.

Unfortunately, I can’t say how much exactly this increase is. I have only just begun keeping precise measurements.

The device is definitely overpriced; nevertheless, for me personally, it seems to be working.

Also, the temporary post-pump increase in girth is not bad to have in the bedroom: pretty satisfying.

Are bathmates a lot safer than Pumps ?

I have no experience with air pumps, but I would guess that any water pump would be safer than an air pump.

Unlike water molecules, air molecules exhibit random pressure distribution patterns and they are compressible: they will not keep the penis in check as it expands inside the tube as well as their water counterparts.

Notice how I said “any water pump” be that a bathmate or a well designed homemade one.

That’s incorrect, air does not exhibit random pressure distribution patterns inside the tube, pumping is not a weather pattern, compression has nothing to do with pumping, water will not keep the penis in check as it expands inside the tube. There have been many reports of blisters, red dots and edema with water pumping.

The benefit of water is that it is able to conduct heat to the penis more effectively than air, so one can pump with warm water and keep your penis heated during the expansion.

I thought pumping and compressing would mean pretty much the same in this context: a decrease in volume due to an increase in pressure?

Inside the tube, and this has nothing to do with the weather, real gases behave non-ideally because they have volume.

Air is a compound. Its different constitutes have real volume and thus they will exert differential, not uniform, pressure on each other and on the space confining them I.e, the tube.

Water molecules are polar and uniform in their bonding: Pressure is relatively uniform.

Water is made up of hydrogen and oxygen, and they exist as a loose bond, water is in its most contracted state at 4 degrees C as temperature rises it expands, it is not inert.

Pumping in the respect of penis pumps has nothing to do with pressure, if it did we would measure in PSI but we don’t, we create a vacuum in order to allow the inward pressure of the penis to exert pressure on the Tunica, less pressure outside means more expansion of the penis the difference in pressure throughout the space in the tube would take some pretty fine measuring gear to pick it up.

In fact if you wish to postulate on micro system pressure differences, then an argument could be made that water drawing oils and salts from the skin could cause different rates of expansion in that medium. Not to mention the different rates of cooling effecting the waters expansion as it cannot move around as freely as air, which would eaqualise its pressure differences faster.

It’s a bunk argument, the difference is to small to measure between the two , and water does not keep the penis in check any more than air. If you wish to keep the fluids in between the outer skin and the tunica in check, then can I suggest condom or sleeve pumping may be what you are looking for.

I think it’s really unlikely that you’d find a pressure gradient in an air pump. Maybe you are thinking of this in terms of hydraulic versus pneumatic systems? You’d be right that the vacuum formed in water is much more harsh and has little noticeable bounce. This isn’t necessarily a good thing. It certainly means that you have to be more accurate with a water based pump than an air based pump to avoid injury.

Great point, which brings us back to the question of whether water pumping is safer than air pumping, no and especially not in the Bathmates case, as you have no idea of what vacuum you are pumping at.

Good argument. Still I don’t think it holds true for the hypothetical “pulling out of salt and oil” situation: water dissolves salts which would still act as a water solution with non-differential pressure on object inside the tube, oil would probably be present in very minute quantities that will just cluster together due to the hydrophobic effect, making the solution redistribute the pressure uniformly again. That does not happen in air.

We will probably have to agree to disagree.

But with a water pump you pump to a maximum point beyond which you virtually can’t pump anymore because the current volume of water left in the tube at that point can no longer be displaced by tissue. Thus, it can’t escape the through the valve. I think that makes it safer because you can’t over-pump.

If that water was replaced by air the valve would still allow air to get out leading over pumping or creating more than desired vacuum.

Here lays the problem you do not know where the maximum point of vacuum is (or any level for that matter), at what level Hg are you pumping at? The injuries that occur with a bathmate occur because the user does not know the vacuum level of pumping. Does a stronger guy pump at higher Hg? I think it would be safe to assume yes. I hammer curl with thirty five kilo dumbbells, four sets of ten, I could probably do some serious damage with a Bathmate.

With Air pumping we advocate using a gauge so that the user is not exceeding safe levels mostly around the three to six Hg level, with a Bathmate you have no idea of the level, ergo air pumping is safer.

Can you tell me what Hg you pump with the Bathmate to?