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Any regular 2-stage cylinder pumpers out there?

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I think that the vacuum increases the blood flow to the testicles and increases testosterone production. It may create a large surge for about a few hours to a day, and perhaps by doing it weekly it may be leading to a slightly elevated testosterone level overall.

It would be interesting to get some blood work and see if indeed testosterone is elevated.

sparkyx,

Interesting point. I’m due for a complete physical. Maybe I’ll have the doc do a test of my T-levels, although in all honesty I’ve always had and continue to have a strong libido. It just gets even stronger with 2-stage pumping.


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Peforeal: I believe you have transposed a 5 where you should have used a 1. Eight easy orgasms in 24 hours!!!!!!!!!! You sound more like 17 instead of 57, man. When you get your T checked, please ask your doc to check your free T and also your estradiol 2. Whatever your numbers are, at age sixty, your numbers will be my goal. Thanks for the personal insight/experiences on the two stage cylinder. Where did you order yours from?

Originally Posted by thinktank
Peforeal: I believe you have transposed a 5 where you should have used a 1. Eight easy orgasms in 24 hours!!!!!!!!!! You sound more like 17 instead of 57, man. When you get your T checked, please ask your doc to check your free T and also your estradiol 2. Whatever your numbers are, at age sixty, your numbers will be my goal. Thanks for the personal insight/experiences on the two stage cylinder. Where did you order yours from?

Thinktank,

I feel 17 some days too. I’ll have the doc check those specifics when I have my physical scheduled. It’s on my “to do” list. The store at newart.com has the most wide range of 2-stage cylinders in various sizes. I like the size I use, i.e. 3.25” x 4” x 10”. Don’t go too large with the first diameter as you just end up pulling in more skin around the pubic region. Be well, my friend.


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You know when I first read the title of this thread this morning I took it to mean that the LongJohnny cylinder I was using was not a regular 2 stage cylinder compared to the type you showed in the pic. Now when I read it I see a different meaning, being that you were reaching out to guys that do full package pumping on a regular basis.

Either way, I likes full package pumping. :D

Originally Posted by gprent
Either way, I likes full package pumping. :D

Me too.


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Originally Posted by peforeal
DingleDangle,
If you want to stretch and loosen up your ballsac permanently, ball pumping will do this for you in a fairly short period of time.

The effects of ballsac pumping depend on how long you pump. You must keep the pressure in the very low range and go for longer times in the cylinder. Newbies should start slowly and experiment with gradually extending their pumping time.

You can easily control how much expansion you’re getting by just monitoring your sac while it expands slowly. You definitely will not look like a moron with a basketball in your pants, unless you choose to do so.

I’m not into that “extreme” look. The final aesthetic is all quite manageable with monitoring.

Thanks for the good answer!

Another question, if I switch from regular cylinder to an two-stage one, would I have to work at lower pressures to avoid “extreme” ball situations? Or could I work at 3 mm mercury and sometimes peak to 5 as I do now with regular pumping?

And I mean inches, not mm!

For young guys, still interested in having kids…consider this;

using a pump on your dick causes the veins and blood vessels to increase in size.

It is probable that it will eventually do the same around and on the testicles. It is POSSIBLE that this may increase the heat or temperature of the testicles…which can diminish fertility.

This is just speculation on my part, but based on known physiology. A varicocele, or an abnormal enlargement of the veins in the scrotum can lead to infertility.

Varicocele - Wikipedia

Sparkyx, just to get this straight, you’re saying that pumping my dick (not my balls) could cause the veins and blood vessels to increase in size around my testicles even though I’m not pumping my testicles?

Originally Posted by DingleDangle
Thanks for the good answer!

Another question, if I switch from regular cylinder to an two-stage one, would I have to work at lower pressures to avoid “extreme” ball situations? Or could I work at 3 mm mercury and sometimes peak to 5 as I do now with regular pumping?

I would strongly recommend going no higher than 3” hg. In fact, keeping at 2” hg will do the job using heat and spending some relaxing quality time in the tube.


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Originally Posted by sparkyx
For young guys, still interested in having kids…consider this;

using a pump on your dick causes the veins and blood vessels to increase in size.

It is probable that it will eventually do the same around and on the testicles. It is POSSIBLE that this may increase the heat or temperature of the testicles…which can diminish fertility.

This is just speculation on my part, but based on known physiology. A varicocele, or an abnormal enlargement of the veins in the scrotum can lead to infertility.

Varicocele - Wikipedia

But if it hangs lower, it will lose more heat.. Wouldn’t the body try to regulate this?

Originally Posted by DingleDangle
But if it hangs lower, it will lose more heat.. Wouldn’t the body try to regulate this?

This is all speculation on my part, based on my understanding of the mechanisms involved. I don’t know anything for sure on this, I just put it out there that it MAY effect fertility if the blood vessels expand, which they probably will if you do this enough.

I’m sure the body would try and regulate it. I think once it is beyond the body by a certain amount, going lower will not effect the temperature any further. It is moving the testicles away from the BODY (and its heat) that effects the temperature. Past a certain distance ( what ever that is) it has no further effect. 3 inches may be as good as 3 meters.

If the blood vessels surrounding the testicles, (and in them) are enlarged, it is providing the potential for increased heat from the blood itself, or more accurately the increased blood flow…which I speculate is a possible mechanism for increased testosterone (pure, wild speculation).

The body has the ability to constrict its blood vessels or expand them to regulate core temperature, but really I have no idea what the long term effects of ball pumping is, I just put out a caution for guys interested in procreating just in case…you know, err on the side of safety.

Reviving a very old thread here, but I’m aware that the members within it still actively post.

PEforeal (or whoever can answer this), I’m wondering where I might find a quality total package pump like the picture you posted in this thread’s opening post? I just ordered my first pump from LApump but do not recall seeing something like this on their website…any suggestions?

EDIT I’m eating my own words now…just re-visted LApump and at the bottom of their products list found this guy! Two Stage Cylinder | LA Pump
Very sorry for unnecessarily posting a ‘worthless’ question…but perhaps someone still has some suggestions of other places to get it? LApump is just so pricey now adays, especially w/ their shipping (you’re looking at at least $25 for UPS Ground, their cheapest offer) Looking at LApump now and all the great products I seem to have overlooked, such as the Cilicone Cushion for the base of their pumps…might end up needing this as I’ve heard a lot of people complain of pain from the base of the pump sucking into their pubic bone over long periods of time!

Will look into this total package thing, but as sparyx said, it could possibly effect fertility (a thought that came into my head and was then confirmed by Sparyx’ post)…not sure where I stand on that, I’m in my young 20’s so if I try this I’m gonna take it nice and easy and stop at any pain. My unit is extreeeemely sensitive anyways, so I will have to take it very easy to begin w/. First penis-only pump routine will be something like 1hg @ 30 seconds, just to condition my unit for it and see if that brings me any pains (jelqing alone for too many reps brought me pains that have lasted for over 6 months :/…if those arent gone within four more months, I’m saying fuck it and continuing a different (pump only) route of PE, I can’t hold off any longer.

I digress…sorry for the post before I looked properly at their website catalogue!

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