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Hanging weight amounts and the followup that appears very important

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Hanging weight amounts and the followup that appears very important

I’ve been aware of applying ads or golf weights or traction wrapping after hanging, but from further reading I’ve become increasingly aware of just how important this can be. I’ve been meaning to go get the AceAD wrap that Captn uses to traction wrap with after hanging, but instead I’ve been hanging this week and skipping the traction wrap until I do have it. I’m now thinking possibly a big mistake on my part.

The theory goes that after hanging the penis needs to kept in an extended state so the micro tears will not heal back with the penis still in the exact same length it was before. I’m going today and look for that wrap. ADS and golf weights are the same principle, but I like the idea of traction wrapping.

A theory for hanging is that the maximum weight to safely and comfortably reach fatigue in 2 sets should be used. Then, do the third set in the fatigued state with less weight.

An alternative for hanging is to reach fatigue in one set, drop weight second set ,and drop weight even more third set. Let your penis dictate to you what it can maximum handle in each fatigued set, which is likely a dropping of weight if the optimum weight for your fatigued state is used each set.

After hanging, then ads, or golf weight, or traction wrap is important. It’s not just a matter of not wasting time hanging if the micro tears are allowed heal back up with the penis not extended, but the also the danger that the tear areas will become so toughened that growth will become even more difficult to achieve (this is why not taking day breaks may be important, so that toughening doesn’t set in well). Hanging without the followup may be spinning wheels and then when you do start the followup the gains may be slower possibly even if you haven’t allowed day breaks. It could be losing valuable early easiest gains if not doing everything to begin with.

Something else I would like to bring up—- There is the theory that hanging at less than maximum fatigue for the 20 minute sessions, and adding more sessions will work better. I’m new to hanging, so this is just my humble opinion, but that doesn’t seem the best way to go about it to me. I can’t see how good growth can come from that. I haven’t read much on this theory and there may be good gainers from this.

I started this thread so that maybe others new to hanging will be more aware of the implication of extended stretching after hanging, and not let it slide by as not so important and no hurry to do that like I did. It’s brought up in other threads, but having one more thread can only help to make sure it’s not overlooked.

Another reason I started this thread is I would like for vets to comment on what I have wrote here. I would appreciate any comments that expand, correct, verify, adjust, etc anything I have written here. Thanks.


Last edited by beenthere : 08-21-2004 at .

been,

>Another reason I started this thread is I would like for vets to comment on what I have wrote here. I would appreciate any comments that expand, correct, verify, adjust, etc anything I have written here. Thanks.<

Looks like good stuff. It’s best not to put a limit on when you’ll reach fatigue. Some days I’d be dropping weight after the first set, often it took more. It’s best to just use the highest weight you safely can and dropping weight where needed for as long as your personal situation/motivation allows.

SS4

Thanks for the info SS4.

About my concern involving the theory of lighter weight/more time, I’ve found a very interesting thread. I haven’t studied the thread much yet but will read it more later and then post here what I think about it. Any comments here about that thread are welcome.

Elasticity

That thread brings up something I also haven’t been doing this week. I’ve only been warming up before hanging, and not applying heat during the hanging. I was aware of heating during hanging, but once again not quite taking the possible importance serious enough. Before I continue hanging I’ll have the a heat source to use doing hanging, and I’ll have the Ace banding for traction wrapping after hanging. I told myself I wasn’t going to start hanging until I fully understood everything about hanging, and I’ll be darn if I didn’t jump the gun anyway. I was in too big a hurry to start.

Whether to go maximum fatigue hanging weight/20 minutes for a few sets or go lighter hanging weight/20 minutes many sets is unclear it seems. According to the lighter hanging weight theory, then using an ads for many hours at a time each day, with perhaps the equivalent of somewhere around a couple of lbs applied pressure, would be even better or perhaps at least as good as max/20 min/3 sets.

I’m not qualified to discount that an ads of many hours is as good as max hanging, but at this time I find it a bit hard to believe that the ads alone will get good erect gains. I could be wrong and would like to hear from anyone who has made good erect gains via ads with no hanging.

I doubt if you are going to hear of anyone making any erect gains with only an ADS. Exception would be a total beginner that purchased on of those “penis-plus type” devices, who didn’t know a thing about other methods. More than likely the folks I’m speaking of, would of course made erect gains because of pulling out the ligs, much like a newbie starting a jelq program experiencing rapid gains because of lig pulling. I too would like to hear from someone like that, but really only after they made over a 2 inch gain with it. I would just be highly skeptical of anyone making over a 2 inch gain with an ADS type rig ,alone.

Good initial post, beenthere. I’ve always thought a traction wrap was important while I was hanging, probably just as important as hanging itself.

Alice

If hanging is an ancient form of PE used by tribal men, I don’t think they had access to ADS and yet they still gained. I think ADS is good for improving gains, but I don’t think it is an absolute requirement. If I hang during the day I’ll wear my wrist wrap the rest of the day as an ADS, but I primarily hang before I go to bed, so I guess I’m relying on nocturnal erections to keep everything stretched out. I’ve read it’s not a good idea to wear an ADS to bed, but then again, I don’t think a simple wrap with Theraband would be harmful.

As for time and weight, I think reaching fatigue is very important to the process, so if you use lighter weights for more time, you still need to be reaching fatigue. I don’t think an ADS will do that, and that’s why hanging does more than the ADS alone, and the ADS is a compliment to hanging.


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A rock being tied on the end of your dick would be an ADS :) , that’s what I think of when thinking of tribal men anyway. Hanging all day (5-6 hrs.) would also eliminate the need for an ADS,IMO.

Alice

I have never been able to get an ADS to work for me, but I traction wrap after every session with an elasticated wrap.

Originally Posted by beenthere
Something else I would like to bring up—- There is the theory that hanging at less than maximum fatigue for the 20 minute sessions, and adding more sessions will work better. I’m new to hanging, so this is just my humble opinion, but that doesn’t seem the best way to go about it to me. I can’t see how good growth can come from that. I haven’t read much on this theory and there may be good gainers from this.

This is what I have been doing.
When I first started hanging, I employed the fatigue as fast as possible theory, and although I did gain, they were quite slow. Bigblackstick convinced me it was not the way to go and I haven’t looked back since!

Seems to me that everything I do is the opposite of everyone else, and I am going along very nicely, thank you.:D

>I have never been able to get an ADS to work for me

Me either, and I’ve tried many different things: a padlock, several versions of Lil’s ADS, various setups using the homemade Bib, a Wench-type arrangement, etc. Too many problems with blood flow, skin irritation, the thing staying on, and fluid buildup. I finally gave up on ADS.

I’ve tried traction wrapping a few times, but IMO it doesn’t pull enough to do any good. Plus, my dick is very intolerant of being mildly constricted for long periods. I’ll get thrombosed veins.

How much time do the tissues need to remain lengthened for optimum progress? Two hanging sessions per day seem to be adequate for me. An extra set thrown in here or there may be even better. Or even a set each hour. I don’t know. I stay fatigued enough from 2 daily sessions that I haven’t tried hanging more often. It would be too much for me.

I’ve been using a constant weight for each set, only reducing it during a session if absolutely necessary. Fatigue builds through the hanging session and also over a period of days. After several consecutive days of hanging I usually reach some degree of fatigue by the second or third set.

I could bump the weight up a bit at first to fatigue a little faster, but I prefer to ease into it. And I think the tissues respond better too. They’ll stiffen if loaded abruptly with heavy weight.

There’s also the theory that doing some manual stretches every time you go to the bathroom helps to cement the day’s hanging gains. This is easy. Is anything more really required?

When I say ADS I guess it is more of a traction wrap, I wear a wrist wrap around my unit which keeps it in an extended state, but it’s not stretching it per se.

Do any of you guys hang before bed?


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Redwood\'s Progress Report/Routines Thread.

I’m going to try using my Jes-extender. That should qualify as an ADS. I bought it around a year and a half ago but never used it. Sadly, I was quite naive to PEing. But without some bad information and scams, I would have never made it here to find out the truth.

So there is a PE god…

Later,
Phoenix


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Goal: 9" BPEL x 6.5" EG

Current Stats: 7.125" BPEL x 5.5" EG

Your not going to have an ADS without some form of complication involved with it. I hang ADS with modified golf weights. I can go many hours with out discomfort because I’ve changed the design some, especially the end ring and even with that I find I need unwrap and wrap several times a day. Usually for urination or dump or something. The point is that there is always a price to pay for gains. Duration has to be one of the big factors. Golf weights allows for long duration hanging at low levels. Couple that with occasional heavy hanging and I believe you have best combination or both long duration and micro fracture damage on a regular or even irregular frequency. My gains have been quite satisfying. My next measurement will mark one year of PE’ing. I only began golf weight usage in February this year and a full 1.25 inches have been achieved since then.

Hobby,
I think your exactly right about to heavy a weight causes a lockup of the ligs. My concept of the ligs is like a seat belt in your car. Pull hard and fast and the cam kicks in, locks the belt to hold, but pull it slowly and it will extend. I think this is the area that heavy hanging needs to take place and then follow up with light hanging for long periods to heal in the elongated state.
The locking concept as driven home when one day I saw on TV an Asian guy who tied a tow rope to his dick and pulled a diesel truck or a boxcar or something ridiculous. His member wasn’t huge. So how did he do it? I think he applied the principle of locking the ligs. I think they have incredible strength. So going up in weight my be just an ego thing and more gains can be had with less weight.


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11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by Phoenixisonfire
So there is a PE god…

Yes, and we call him Thunder. :chuckle:


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Redwood\'s Progress Report/Routines Thread.

Is it true there are tribesmen that have/had 12 - 15 inch flaccid hangs from hanging rocks from their dicks? If this is so, I wonder how much weight they used? I know it’s said that they developed ED from improper hanging, but that shouldn’t alter the useful information that may can be gained from knowing how much weight they used.

Just guessing, but my initial thought is they would have used heavy weights (big rocks) with the view that will pull the dick further down. Even though we view it as micro tears, except for other additions to our stretching (warmup, circulation control, time limits, etc), their heavy rocks are basically the same principle as our max weight theory. Did they not use very heavy rocks?

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