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Hanging - how much weight

How much weight should i start with? i checked on search and i couldn’t find anything.I did the newbie for 1 year and a half and extender too but i am not gaining anymore. i want to start hanging but i would like to know how many sets and how many Kgs too!thanks

Hey TTT, I hung to a max of 40 lbs BTC in just the same manner you do, gradually adding weight. When you hang heavy, it is dangerous—even for expert hangers—-to START with that level weight.

However, as you add, tighten, add, tighten, things are more stable/safe. It does sort of run counter to Bib’s start high and reduce weight with fatigue approach, but IMHO that is the best way to deal with weight over 25 pounds.


Hog before: 6'' NBPEL; 5'' MSEG---->> Hog now: 7.3" NBPEL; 5 1/4" MSEG; 8.5 BPFSL

Originally Posted by bubba77
Hey TTT, I hung to a max of 40 lbs BTC in just the same manner you do, gradually adding weight. When you hang heavy, it is dangerous—even for expert hangers—-to START with that level weight.

However, as you add, tighten, add, tighten, things are more stable/safe. It does sort of run counter to Bib’s start high and reduce weight with fatigue approach, but IMHO that is the best way to deal with weight over 25 pounds.

Well - I am confused now.

Anyhow, what I did is reduce the weight (12”) and start with that weight right away. Modified Original anchor (520 g ball instead of their 250 g both balls) thereafter during much of the day and their smaller ball (180 g) part of the night.


Later - ttt

ttt,

Are you reaching fatigue with 12 lb?

I just started the hanging part of my pe today, after about a year of conditioning of jelquing and pumping. Went for a starting weight of 5lbs for 20 min after a 20min pumping session. Plan to keep it at this for a while to get used to it. This is all proceeded by a warm up period and cool down period. Fingers crossed.

Originally Posted by kbvk
Ttt,
Are you reaching fatigue with 12 lb?

Yes, and I think that it’s enough if I reach fatigue.


Later - ttt

Originally Posted by r.oates
I just started the hanging part of my pe today, after about a year of conditioning of jelquing and pumping. Went for a starting weight of 5lbs for 20 min after a 20min pumping session. Plan to keep it at this for a while to get used to it. This is all proceeded by a warm up period and cool down period. Fingers crossed.

I would not recommend to hang after pumping (danger of injuries and donut effect).


Later - ttt

Originally Posted by ticktickticker

I would not recommend to hang after pumping (danger of injuries and donut effect).

Quoted for truth. I realize one or two guys on this board can get away with switching the order, but for the rest of us, hanging should be sequentially the first thing we do after warmup. Pumping is usually the last.

You want to start at a low weight.

Move up a pound or two a week..

Go for the fatigue.

Hang one angle.

Hang many sets.

~L


"HALT! This is a no-turtle zone."

5/14/09 - BPEL 7.0" BPFSL 8.25" EG 4.5"

1/1/10 - BPEL 7.5" BPFSL 9.0" EG 5.0" - GOAL

Originally Posted by lostracco
.. Same angle ..

Interesting point.

My idea would be that hanging at different angles would rather lead to adaptation (=strengthening of the ligs and tunica) instead of elongation.

However, if I am not wrong here, manual stretching routines usually incorporate stretch in all directions.

Principally however, I don’t see a difference between stretching and hanging. So why should changing angles be beneficial for stretchers but not for hangers?


Later - ttt

Hi TTT I was reading your thread on the best ways of hanging with a vac and then seen this thread. Did you not see any gains from it? Also you said your back to the bib , did you see any gains with the bib before using the vac?

Originally Posted by ticktickticker
Interesting point.

My idea would be that hanging at different angles would rather lead to adaptation (=strengthening of the ligs and tunica) instead of elongation.

However, if I am not wrong here, manual stretching routines usually incorporate stretch in all directions.

Principally however, I don’t see a difference between stretching and hanging. So why should changing angles be beneficial for stretchers but not for hangers?

If I may interject that I said hang one angle.

Anyway:

The biggest factor is amount of hang time you have. I say hang one angle, because most of us do not have the hanging time it would take to effectively hang more than one angle every day.

What you want after a session is total fatigue. This point is when you can’t hang 1/3 to 1/2 of your maximum weight without reducing. So.. if you start at 10lbs at a given angle (for instance), once you just can’t grit your teeth through a set at 3 or 4 lbs, it’s OK to stop. You *can* keep hanging all the way down to 1lb if you’d like, but the theory is that after the 1/2-1/3 max weight point, the returns begin to diminish. That is, you won’t get the same effectiveness for the hour it takes to go from 4lbs to 1lb that you get out of going from 10lbs to 4lbs.

You COULD reach this point on two or three angles every day if you’d like. I currently hang more than 10 hours every day, so I can safely say that I have the time it takes to reach total fatigue at multiple angles. Most guys do not have this amount of time, so their limited hanging time would be better spent reaching total fatigue at ONE angle day in and day out, rather than half assing it and reaching quasi-sorta fatigue at 2 or 3 angles.

I don’t exactly think that changing angles IS beneficial for stretchers. If they stretched at only one angle I do believe they’d see somewhat faster gains. Of course, you’re really not applying much traction with a manual stretch, so it could get very easy to need more traction to feel fatigue. Enter hanging.

Did this clear it up?

~L


"HALT! This is a no-turtle zone."

5/14/09 - BPEL 7.0" BPFSL 8.25" EG 4.5"

1/1/10 - BPEL 7.5" BPFSL 9.0" EG 5.0" - GOAL

Just throwing in my 2 cents:

Here’s some of my philosophy or ideas about hanging. Most of it is from successful hangers who posted on Thunders. I realize I’m echoing a lot of things already said here. I just hope that this summary is as complete and parsimonious as possible.

1-Minimum weight to create fatigue
2-Reach Fatigue by the 2nd set
3-20 minute sets
4-Develop resistance to attachment point stress
5-Ride the Fatigue
*Day/ Night Sets (pull out that slack every 12 hours)
*Don’t increase weight & sets at the same time
*Don’t be afraid to decrease the weight—sometimes you’ll have micro tears that WILL cause a little pain at your ‘normal’ weight
6-The right way to hang is to never take a full day off
If you’re too sore at one angle, switch angles. Avoid ever letting it completely heal—you want daily stretching & daily micro tears.
7-ALWAYS warm up/ warm down, kegel & jelq after. But light jelqs, BTB—get that circulation back.
8-Use proper wrapping & hanging technique. Your technique will continually need to improve to keep things comfortable as you will always need to make the bib tighter & tighter at the attachment point as you add more & more weight.
9-Keep a log of your activity, and be consistent.
10-You’ll need to change your approach from time to time—if you want to keep gaining. Go by feel as you increase weight/ sets. Measure your FSL in addition to your BPEL. Figure out what works for you—& keep doing it until you have to change your approach again.
11-Length 1st, girth 2nd—hanging is intense, so don’t try to do more than jelqing if you’re already hanging.
12-Keep studying this forum & bibs forum—learn all you can about PE. Be smart, don’t injure yourself.

If you do all those things above, I can’t see how you could fail.

Even if you only gain 1/16th or 1/8th inches a month with hanging, eventually you’ll reach your length goal…

I don’t know if there’s a comprehensive mostly complete guide on hanging out there.. I had to make my own. I actually took a week off work when I first learned about PE and studied 60-70 hours solid before I started PE (I may post those notes one day). I gained .75” in 3 months… sure some do better/worse, but that was a nice gain for me. I guess I’m just saying I know this works.

Originally Posted by kimc
Hi TTT I was reading your thread on the best ways of hanging with a vac and then seen this thread. Did you not see any gains from it? Also you said your back to the bib , did you see any gains with the bib before using the vac?

I think I gained some from all techniques, but the vac caused blisters and keratinization (I am uncut), that’s why I went back to the bib. The early wave of enthusiasm about vac hanging just took me along. Then I tried to figure out how to reduce the injury potential. Now I am back to the safer (for me and the weight I am using - 12” up) bib.


Later - ttt

Originally Posted by blink2000
Just throwing in my 2 cents: ..

.. (I may post those notes one day) .

Thanks for your 2 cents. I would be very interested in your notes if you find the time.


Later - ttt

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