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Effectiveness of an ADS as a supplement to hanging

For an ADS to be most effective to build on the work one does with hanging, shouldn’t the ADS mimic the dominant position used during your hanging work? Yes or no?

For example, a BTC hanger would need a BTC or SD ADS. An OTS hanger would need an OTS ADS…..

Discuss….


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Originally Posted by bigblackstick
Discuss….

Linda Richmond?

Makes sense to me.

I have always used a SD ADS. I gained when I was doing SD/BTC hanging and did not gain when I was doing SO hanging. My experience would support your hypothesis.

For the record, my experience has exclusively employed hanging as an agent for length. It does not seem to be necessary to supplement this activity with any prolonged stretching ritual, the damage is done and you have achieved the stimulus for growth. To do both is wasted effort in my opinion, if you understand the dynamics of the system it would seem that the ADS is superfluous.

Ligatures do not require a holding pattern to somehow mold into elongated states. The physiology requires excessive force to deform and weaken resistance to erectile pressure. Hanging will induce this trauma and that is it. An ADS in the fashion descibed will have the same altering effects as the watch you wear on your wrist all day. This is my experience, hang tough and hang long.


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Shilow,

Once again you make me want to qoute myself about my friend who sustained burn damage, but I’ll give you the short version:

Fire.
Burns.
Scar tissue.
Super-duper elasto body suit to place even pressure over skin.
Even pressure allowed skin cells to grow and realing in original pattern.
Original pattern looks more like skin than burn scars.

I think that is reason enough to believe that moderate pressure/stretch will cause the damage to realign in more or less original fashion when healing.

Just my suspicion.


regards, mgus

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I just try to inform based on my experience and others do the same thing. Since I have hanged exclusively for ultimate length it is germaine to therapys utilizing this technique. I believe if there were more attention paid to routines carried out over years and there results, we could begin to eliminate practices that do little or are unnecessary.

I hanged 10lbs for approximately 20min sessions, 2 to 3 sets/day for 18mos. the next 18mos. I hanged 15lbs for approx. 20min sessions, 2sets/day. I have gained a little less than 2 inches erect.


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Just a correction, I started with 5lbs and over 6mos. worked up to 10lbs. There are different approaches to achieve the end result but there is an overzealous nature that takes over all of us from time to time to try and stimulate gains 24hours per day. So, some people want to sleep with something on and drive to work with something on; all in the mindset of arriving at the goal before the sunset.

It is not necessary and I believe it is not healthy for growth to keep your penis in some prolonged state of traction. And my experience and methodology would show that it is not necessary. The process cannot be excelerated, it takes the form of other practices, like adjusting teeth with orthodontic contraptions, your teeth will not straighten overnight. Genetics will influence the success and ultimate gains, and a disciplined approach over time will realize gains for most.


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Good post Shilow. Nice gains as welll. Current size? Starting size? starting LOT? current LOT? Thanks.

Good discussions….


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Originally Posted by Shilow
For the record, my experience has exclusively employed hanging as an agent for length. It does not seem to be necessary to supplement this activity with any prolonged stretching ritual, the damage is done and you have achieved the stimulus for growth. To do both is wasted effort in my opinion, if you understand the dynamics of the system it would seem that the ADS is superfluous.

Ligatures do not require a holding pattern to somehow mold into elongated states. The physiology requires excessive force to deform and weaken resistance to erectile pressure. Hanging will induce this trauma and that is it. An ADS in the fashion descibed will have the same altering effects as the watch you wear on your wrist all day. This is my experience, hang tough and hang long.


Your understanding is flawed. On the sides of ligaments are structures that cause the lig to pull up into a contracted state. That state when maintained during any phase of healing will cause not only a strengthening but also a retraction to the original length. Now I will grant you that if you have been able to maintain a consistent hanging routine within the confines of a complete healing cycle then, yes, you will obtain the gains you seek. However when ever a period of time has elapsed that healing can become sufficient without additional hanging you will experience an increase of ligament strength.

The ADS will prevent the contraction of the curves obsevered on the sides of the ligaments and this extended state is what will cause the curves to realign along with a continued seperation of the microtears preventing healing in the retracted state. Much depends on the rate at which YOU heal and this rate will determine how suseptable you are to plateauing. An asprine a day can slow the healing rate enough to keep gains going for many people but for some the healing process is very short and they have gains problems. You will see them post on the forum complaining that they just can’t seem to gain anything. They will need to apply changes to their routines to combat that condition. One of those changes could very well be an ADS.


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Originally Posted by bigblackstick
For an ADS to be most effective to build on the work one does with hanging, shouldn’t the ADS mimic the dominant position used during your hanging work? Yes or no?

For example, a BTC hanger would need a BTC or SD ADS. An OTS hanger would need an OTS ADS…..

Discuss….


BBS your very correct in your thinking. As for me I am an exclusive SO and SU hanger so when I load up my PEweights they are SD and I’m sure that it would be more effective to have them in an SD position but alas that is not practical. However for the record it has not seemed to hender my gains. I would submit that if tried, a light ADS for period of time you would experience what would seem an excelleration of gains both in flaccid and erect because the effect of the ADS has in the continuing of the stress on the ligs even in the light weight condition.

If you broke a bone and instead of setting the bone you subjected it to extra weight keeping the gap between the ends from touching don’t you beleive that you would end up with an extended appendage?

Ideally we would want to apply an ADS in the same stress angle of the heavy hanging sequence we subjected them to in the first place but that may not be possible in all instances. So I guess we have to live with some compromise and fortunatly that hasn’t seemed to hender our progress.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by Shilow
For the record, my experience has exclusively employed hanging as an agent for length. It does not seem to be necessary to supplement this activity with any prolonged stretching ritual, the damage is done and you have achieved the stimulus for growth. To do both is wasted effort in my opinion, if you understand the dynamics of the system it would seem that the ADS is superfluous.

Ligatures do not require a holding pattern to somehow mold into elongated states. The physiology requires excessive force to deform and weaken resistance to erectile pressure. Hanging will induce this trauma and that is it. An ADS in the fashion descibed will have the same altering effects as the watch you wear on your wrist all day. This is my experience, hang tough and hang long.

Sorry: I totally disagree. One has only to watch their penis after a heavy hanging set. Once you pop off the Bib and remove your wrap, just watch what happens. Imediately the body’s self repair mechanisms begin to repair the beaten and battered organ by pulling it back inside the warm, safe fat-pad to heal. The more aggressive your hang session the greater the retraction. This is the most important time to keep that dick extended. I don’t even remove the wrap for about twenty minutes, then imediatly after the hangers’ wrap is removed I slip on my weights. The penile tissues absolutely must be kept extended for at least 72 hours after the hang sessions. (Three days, four is better) The only thing that should ever interupt this 72 hour ADS is sex or another hang session. Even after sex one should put their ADS right back on. Micro-tears in callagon comepletely heal in about 100 hours. If a person hangs faithly everyday the ADS might not be such a concern. But if anyone takes a break for more than two or three days after heavy hanging, not only will they be toughening the tunicia against any future gains, I honestly believe they may be shortening their unit with scar tissue as the cells draw together and heal up while retracted.

BG


2003: 6X5 2010: 7X7

No Nukes

Shilow,

Thanks for your input and for sharing your experience with us. But I’m going to have to go with Monty on this one. I’m no physiologist, so I have to rely on the researches of others. But the general consensus here, gathered from the informed experience of many dedicated hangers, is that the ligs will often tend to contract when healing.

If someone is lucky enough to have the time/privacy to hang, say, six to eight hours a day, as Bib did, then this is no real concern to him. But if someone cannot put that much time in, then using an ADS throughout the day, in addition to hanging, will help to keep the ligs in an extended state.

I recently purchased an ADS. I can only hang for anywhere between two and six sets a day, depending on who’s around the house! Thus far, the combination of hanging and the ADS is going well. My flaccid length has definitely increased. It’s only been a couple of weeks, so I don’t think there have been any erect gains yet. But I’m very confident.

By the way, you are very fortunate to have gained two inches with only two to three sets a day. Congrats!

Originally Posted by Monty530
An asprine a day can slow the healing rate enough to keep gains going for many people but for some the healing process is very short and they have gains problems.

I’ve never heard this discussed before. Please tell me more, if you can. Have others tried this?

Originally Posted by Big Girtha
Imediately the body’s self repair mechanisms begin to repair the beaten and battered organ by pulling it back inside the warm, safe fat-pad to heal.

That fat pad has a multitude of sins to answer for, doesn’t it?

Originally Posted by Big Girtha
The penile tissues absolutely must be kept extended for at least 72 hours after the hang sessions. (Three days, four is better) The only thing that should ever interupt this 72 hour ADS is sex or another hang session. Even after sex one should put their ADS right back on. Micro-tears in callagon comepletely heal in about 100 hours.

What about sleep? I wear my ADS a good part of the day, but not every minute of every day. Some days, I can’t wear it at all.

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