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Advancement of Penis Hangers Since the bib

Another great thing with capitalism is that you get a lot of bullshit and spam. Some members gest a commercial account for a reason, never forget that.

Hanging is one thing, but the essence of what causes the desired effect is another. Perhaps the Bib has a positive effect because it does cause compression or crushing as some would describe as opposed to just pulling as in the vac devices. We are all left with just speculation.

I have mentioned in previous posts, the use of a securing wrap in conjunction with a vac hanger. Along those lines, with proper engineering, a device could be made that is a combination of both vac pulling and compression gripping. How much more effective it would be, I don’t know.

Yes Ectospasm I have toyed with that same idea of distributing vacuum force using a vac and gripping force with a gripper. Honestly at least in my mind the vac assistance isn’t going to contribute too much because personally I think it’s only good to take about 5-10 lbs of the total force, leaving a significant remainder for the grip, but like you say with proper engineering it really may make it worthwhile. For me the next biggest factor after comfort and safety is ease of use so I would want it to be easy and quick to take on and off.

I am using my Phallosan again for ADS/extending and I think the vac heads are great, but the nasty blood blisters that I’ve experienced right on my urethra (after not taking people’s word for it that hanging 12-15+ lbs with vac is a very bad idea) from higher weights have convinced me vac heads are not useful for heavier weight hanging - although I don’t see why they cannot be used at lower weights. I think when the LG hanger says it can handle 25lbs, it is literally meaning the device can withstand 25lbs of force, not the penis that is put into it - either that or it’s just some inflated claims or maybe some people have been able to condition their dicks against blistering at such weights, I don’t know but I won’t be giving myself another blister like that.


28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)

Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS

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Good point. I concur. Speaking of engineering, if the greatest minds at Apple or Tesla were on this and perfected a PE tool, every male in the world would buy it.

But, we are left to our own devices, so to speak. I’ve been hanging with 8.5lbs and the vac. I can go two hours straight easily. I know some here have graduated to some very high poundages, but, really, if I just hung 8lbs for 10 hrs per week for five years, my confidence is with gravity.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Fair enough. Its Just my observation and feedback with the community.
I have to admit I spoke without having a vac hanger lol. About to receive one and will do some real feedback.
At least at thunders the tendency and experience is to go for more time then weight.

The LG seemed very promising albeit also much too expensive.
And Im meanwhile not sure if all users in the PE community where giving unbiased reviews.

The penomet is a rather good tool, but I bought the biggest pack back then when it was pushed on MOS, and it isnt worth the money.(nor the BM)
A standard pump, much cheaper, beats them any day everyday.

And thats cause the cylinder vacuum pump market is competitive. They have to come up with new ideas, better quality and gimmicks to make an extra buck.

Thats the great thing with capitalism. As soon as competition is there you can bet that new ideas and advancements come up.

I enjoy reading others observations and opinions to build on mine or possibly help other build on theirs by sharing with them.

I never tried the penomet as I have always like the BM line. I like the BM’s a lot, especially my Xtreme X40 b/c I can use them in the shower. Very convenient for me to kill 2 birds with one stone. There definitely are more affordable and not so heavily marketed alternatives and DIY tools that are comparable ways to perform water pumping though.

GO CAPITALISM!!!

Originally Posted by marinera
Another great thing with capitalism is that you get a lot of bullshit and spam. Some members gest a commercial account for a reason, never forget that.

BOO CAPITALISM lol. Some members get a commercial account even when they aren’t part of the PE commerce world in a financial (like me) :) But I understand and am cool with why I was made a commercial account. I am very thankful that I was allowed to have a designated thread. Sometimes when I see someone post something I have a video for I do with I could link it to them.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Hilarious. Another good thing is that you are able to say it like it is.
Still interesting discussion. I would love to have all systems discussing each other in one thread. That would be fun.

That would be cool. I’d like to read that for sure and see what the reps the say when discussing their tools directly with other reps

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
Hanging is one thing, but the essence of what causes the desired effect is another. Perhaps the Bib has a positive effect because it does cause compression or crushing as some would describe as opposed to just pulling as in the vac devices. We are all left with just speculation.

I have mentioned in previous posts, the use of a securing wrap in conjunction with a vac hanger. Along those lines, with proper engineering, a device could be made that is a combination of both vac pulling and compression gripping. How much more effective it would be I don’t know.

I’ve though about this before as well. Could have a compression site along with a vacuum head attachment reduce the vacuum pressure that builds up when adding weight. And would the vacuum attachment allow for less compression at the compression site? Both leading to being able to support more weight and keep adequate blood flow to hang for longer periods of time at these higher weights. It seems logical in theory.

I am thinking this type of hanger would also work better for men who already have a decent sized penis. What would be the minimum size required to use it? hammy

Originally Posted by GettinGrown
Yes Ectospasm I have toyed with that same idea of distributing vacuum force using a vac and gripping force with a gripper. Honestly at least in my mind the vac assistance isn’t going to contribute too much because personally I think it’s only good to take about 5-10 lbs of the total force, leaving a significant remainder for the grip, but like you say with proper engineering it really may make it worthwhile. For me the next biggest factor after comfort and safety is ease of use so I would want it to be easy and quick to take on and off.

I am using my Phallosan again for ADS/extending and I think the vac heads are great, but the nasty blood blisters that I’ve experienced right on my urethra (after not taking people’s word for it that hanging 12-15+ lbs with vac is a very bad idea) from higher weights have convinced me vac heads are not useful for heavier weight hanging - although I don’t see why they cannot be used at lower weights. I think when the LG hanger says it can handle 25lbs, it is literally meaning the device can withstand 25lbs of force, not the penis that is put into it - either that or it’s just some inflated claims or maybe some people have been able to condition their dicks against blistering at such weights, I don’t know but I won’t be giving myself another blister like that.

Blood blisters suck. I have only ever had small ones b/c as I upped weight I would take it off after shirt periods of time to see if I could tolerate that weight for a given time.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
Good point. I concur. Speaking of engineering, if the greatest minds at Apple or Tesla were on this and perfected a PE tool, every male in the world would buy it.

But, we are left to our own devices, so to speak. I’ve been hanging with 8.5lbs and the vac. I can go two hours straight easily. I know some here have graduated to some very high poundages, but, really, if I just hung 8lbs for 10 hrs per week for five years, my confidence is with gravity.


Those minds would be a great benefit to PE.


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

Ecto - Have you gained anything since starting PE, I see only starting stats?


28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)

Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS

PE Growth Rate Study | Most Efficient Gainers List

I haven’t measured since I started as I made a committment to do so only after 900 hours of using the extender. I’m a bit over halfway there now. I don’t get excited about apparent 1/8-1/4” guesswork gains because there is likely that much variation in erect penis length and girth at any given time. The more I read about positive PE experiences, the more I realize it is a very slow, longterm endeavor for the majority. So, I’m plodding along.

If you were designing the ideal hanger, what would it look like?

I’d like to see something that distributed the weight over a large area, not concentrating on the glans or squeezing the hell out of my dick. Would it be possible to have some sort of hybrid between a vac and a compression hanger? Something with a built-in heater that could warm the tissues, making them easier to stretch? Something that didn’t require wrapping first?

But to stick strictly to the topic, I think that the technology will get better, and hangers will get more comfortable, easier to use, and more effective.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm

I haven’t measured since I started as I made a committment to do so only after 900 hours of using the extender. I’m a bit over halfway there now. I don’t get excited about apparent 1/8-1/4” guesswork gains because there is likely that much variation in erect penis length and girth at any given time. The more I read about positive PE experiences, the more I realize it is a very slow, longterm endeavor for the majority. So, I’m plodding along.

Cool, I agree with they way you’re doing it. BTW once you get used to measuring you will be able to detect a change as little as 1/16” easily, just comes down to measuring in the exact same position every time, it does assume you can regularly achieve full hardness but it only has to be for a split second, I have never had a problem with it. Logging hours using an extender is the only time I have ever gained, although I was doing other things and it was right when I started, but I’m back now to focusing on logging extender hours.


28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)

Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS

PE Growth Rate Study | Most Efficient Gainers List

Originally Posted by ErnieBanks
If you were designing the ideal hanger, what would it look like?

I’d like to see something that distributed the weight over a large area, not concentrating on the glans or squeezing the hell out of my dick. Would it be possible to have some sort of hybrid between a vac and a compression hanger? Something with a built-in heater that could warm the tissues, making them easier to stretch? Something that didn’t require wrapping first?

But to stick strictly to the topic, I think that the technology will get better, and hangers will get more comfortable, easier to use, and more effective.


I have a picture in my head but building it is not simple. It has to squeeze/compress - that is a given, how much is the only question. Sure it’s possible to have a hybrid, but a home brew would probably be a little more sophisticated to assemble than the traditional home brew models and it’s hard to say how much better it will be. If you are hanging lets say 30 lbs (which I have not approached but some people do) - is it really helpful to distribute 5-10 lbs of that to the glan and what are the results of now mixing decreased circulation with fluid buildup? Hard to say.

I have thought briefly on a built in heater, yes that would be icing on the cake, and no wrapping or something much more reasonable like something that just slips on and off easily is a must.

Well I don’t discount the fact many before us have had the exact same discussions and thoughts and tried probably thousands of techniques and already have developed some very good devices and strategies but, you know, things can always be improved on.


28 Aug 2014: 6.25" x 6" (MEG) >>>>>>>> 30 Dec 2015: 7.25" x 6.5" (MEG)

Goal: Pump 40 min 2x daily 6 mos start 8/23/17 PICS AND PROGRESS

PE Growth Rate Study | Most Efficient Gainers List

What is the future of hanging? Probably something along the lines of a sleeve comprised of carbon nanotubes that will sense force, vascular circulation and temperature and automatically make axial changes along the shaft to optimize these components as physiological needs demand. The tubes themselves would be capable of elongation without the need for an external apparatus. Monitored with an Apple watch, of course. However my training is more biological so l envision a solution that would activate latent genes to stimulate actual growth through recombinant technology or stem cells. The technology in either case seems to be progressing at an even rate. At least so far. We will be looked upon by our descendents as cavemen using stone tools.

Originally Posted by Ectospasm
Monitored with an Apple watch, of course.

Damn. I wouldnt trust that apple watch with my dick. Can see my dick getting compressed to pooof.

Originally Posted by ykm123321
I’ve though about this before as well. Could have a compression site along with a vacuum head attachment reduce the vacuum pressure that builds up when adding weight. And would the vacuum attachment allow for less compression at the compression site? Both leading to being able to support more weight and keep adequate blood flow to hang for longer periods of time at these higher weights. It seems logical in theory.

I am thinking this type of hanger would also work better for men who already have a decent sized penis. What would be the minimum size required to use it? hammy

In a way thats what silicone sleeves do. The longer and more gripping the sleeve the less intensity needed at the head.

If you go for ligament and “inner penis” gains then you can attach it down to the base.

I will test that with different sleeves.

There is no efficient hanger yet. Maybe there will never be one. The structure of the penis is too complex to be pulled (with a noticeable force, at least) with anything different than your hands.

Vac hangers cause blisters and can’t stand much weight. Noose style hangers would be the best if the noose was very thick and soft - exactly like your fingers. Clamp style hangers don’t pull from the tip, the skin, ligs and smooth muscle will held most of the weight, without speaking of others issues; clamp style hangers are probably the most ineffective of them all.

If you have the belief there are better things than your hands to stretch your penis, probably the future of hanging for you is pumping.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Damn. I wouldnt trust that apple watch with my dick. Can see my dick getting compressed to pooof.

In a way thats what silicone sleeves do. The longer and more gripping the sleeve the less intensity needed at the head.

If you go for ligament and “inner penis” gains then you can attach it down to the base.

I will test that with different sleeves.

i’ve tried it with both short and long sleeves with the VH3 I had the same results no mater what the time or weight. At higher weights…small blood blisters for me


ykm123321 is the owner of the gripping trainer website. He also surreptitiously posted here as LetsGrow123 in an effort to promote that site. Please take any product endorsements as very likely to be biased.

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