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PE and Growth Hormone

PE and Growth Hormone

Recently, I’ve done some reading about the relationship between exercise and the human growth hormone. I’m now redesigning part of my workout to maximize my body’s production of growth hormone. I’ll get back to this in a second.

It is my belief that the penis will only grow as large as the body will support. When I say this, I mean that I believe that if circulation, general health, hormones, etc. are not at the appropriate levels, then attempt to grow beyond whatever the maximum size that the body can support will be futile. I also believe that if growth is achieved past what the body can sustain, gains will be lost when training stops. For that reason, I don’t believe in using supplements to boost gains because it seems that those gains would be a lot more easily lost when PE is stopped than gains made without supplements. I have no real evidence to support this theory, it just seems to make sense to me and I know the same is true when it comes to physical exercise.

My question is does anyone have any knowledge of whether growth hormone affect PE gains? It’s well established that GH is a must for growth in other areas of the body so it would make sense that this could only positively benefit penis size.

Thoughts?

I have thought a bit about Testosterone or Growth Hormone and have wondered if the increased healing capacity of a body running hot on exogenous hormones would be a DETRIMENT to PE.

If I am stretching a tissue to cause temporary breakdown to allow reformation, wouldn’t faster healing, and maybe increased formation of scar tissue, be counter-productive?

I seem to have had more success at PE in my 30’s than 20’s and I have used various gear in the past, but no longer. I was never able to keep my ligs so sore when I was young. But I may not have been stretching correctly then- this was pre-Thunders. It’s hard to say(not much help:) )

Maldo

Originally Posted by Maldonaldo
I have thought a bit about Testosterone or Growth Hormone and have wondered if the increased healing capacity of a body running hot on exogenous hormones would be a DETRIMENT to PE.

If I am stretching a tissue to cause temporary breakdown to allow reformation, wouldn’t faster healing, and maybe increased formation of scar tissue, be counter-productive?

I seem to have had more success at PE in my 30’s than 20’s and I have used various gear in the past, but no longer. I was never able to keep my ligs so sore when I was young. But I may not have been stretching correctly then- this was pre-Thunders. It’s hard to say(not much help:) )

Maldo

That is what BIB was saying as I remember. In ‘weak’ condition of his health he would gain faster than when he was ‘healthy’ and ‘full of vitamins’(etc). So maybe things like HGH would only make us ‘stronger’ and harder to break tissues.

I do think it’s a sound theory, but let’s not forget that increasing muscle mass is different than increasing the penile tissue.

You wouldn’t jog 5 miles to increase muscle mass, but you would for PE, to increase bloodflow.

PE is all about bloodflow, and increasing the tissue chambers to allow for MORE bloodflow. That’s why we stretch (to elongate the chambers), and why we jelq (to spread them out).

Building muscle works on a different premise IMO because it’s all about feeing the muscle with protein and other nutrients like your natural creatine, which you would find in steaks, chicken, fish, etc.

Whereas the penile tissue doesn’t need to be fed a special diet other than your natural hormones and blood, which can be aided by a balanced diet rather than a protein rich diet.

Just my POV.

OTOH, regarding the body’s GH, a guy doing very heavy lifts, his body is in a very stressed state.

So, while he maybe chocked full of vitamins, minerals, yadda, yadda, he is still borderline over stressed physically.

I actually have to schedule cutting my grass because of the stressful nature of my gym workouts. I was worn out after cutting it a few days ago. It only amounted to about 52 minutes of cardio, but I could feel it when I woke up the next day.

So whether being in a stressed state, or having the body on decent amount of GH (I am thinking more natural than supplemented) a heavy work out should fall into both categories.

Of course, we are talking about maximized efforts, say, after newbie/easy gains are used up. At that point, an optimized routine - as best that can be determined (obvious murky) - would be needed for further progress. Thing is, we are just guessing based on what some good gainers have posted. Not that is bad, it really is all we have to go on.

It would help it the things posted by those sources were true. Different people have different opinions about Bib and his gains. Personally, I can’t say. Some of his posts seemed to have made sense when I look over some of the history he left here. OTOH, no one has posted similar gains - other than DLD.

Of course, most people regard DLD as completely full of sh*t and generally off his rocker..

So we are left with trying to make sense of it all from what other seemingly (and I am not implying anything) credible posters have posted. Then adding or subtracting from that..?

:shrug:

Originally Posted by bobs3304

PE is all about bloodflow, and increasing the tissue chambers to allow for MORE bloodflow. That’s why we stretch (to elongate the chambers), and why we jelq (to spread them out).

I am not sure about that…IMO PE is about making ‘damage’ to your penis and allowing it to heal and rebuild it in any ‘better way’(in a way that allows body to avoid ‘damage’ again…making dick longer or girthier). That is why I wrote that ‘weak’ body state may help in some way with PE. At least this is one of the theories.

I tried once to PE while eating proteins and vitamins for month and did not find any improvement…But it may work different for others. I wonder too if HGH can help with PE.

Just for the record, I wasn’t talking about supplemental growth hormone, but trying to increase what the body naturally produces.

Yea the whole thing is really confusing.

The dick has smooth muscle, but does it react the same way?

Who knows.

I think the best thing to do is increase bloodflow naturally (exercise, good diet, avoid stress), and treat “penis-building” like you would body-building, since it should be just a regular part of your life anyway.

We don’t go all nutty and womanly-neurotic over lifting shit at the gym right? So why PE?


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

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