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Jelqing only- Length gains NOT POSSIBLE

I’ve never really done much stretching, and have never really jelqed at a lower erection level. I have never jelqed in the downwards direction as I didn’t particularly want length gains. Look at my signature. I do contribute at least 0.25” of length to o-bends mind you. Perhaps some of my gains were natural growth since I started here at 18.


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

I am a hard gainer. Done PE since may 2004.
I’ve taken a year off during this time. That was it.

I hung for 6 months, 3 hours a day, gained only .25 inches.

Used an extender for 4 months 4hours daily, no gains.

I jelqed only for a total of 1 year, no results length wise. .25 in girth.

Stretching/jelqing combo access of a year, .5 inches in length .

Stretch and jelq combo always worked best for me. I haven’t had any gains now for 3 years.

Total: .75 in length, .5 in girth.

Tiger

This thread just sounds like bad mouthing jelqing.
Jelqing being the staple of my PE diet, I ain’t going to stand for it.

If you take a look at my Jelq Only diet routines you will see there was no downward stretching of any Ligs, and I have gained in length and girth.

I guess it depends on the specific person who is Jelqing, but you can’t condemn a PE exercise just because it does not work for you.


Current Stats: 6.9BPEL/6.4NBPEL 5.5MEG.

Current Goal: 7BPEL/6.5NBPEL 5.75MEG.

Didn’t condemn it. You should reread my point.

Tissue expansion

Hello everyone I am back at it with my PE regimen I have been gone for a while yet when I first started was back in 2001 and now I am starting to see some essential gains. At any rate the reason I am posting today is to see if they make anything that will help breakdown the tissue inside the penis so that people with tougher tissue can see faster gains. If they do it would have to be something that is only temporarily used to breakdown the tissue cells.

My personal goal is to have 7 inches of girth so that when I taper off I will at least have 6.5 inches of girth.

Originally Posted by the tiger
I jelqed only for a total of 1 year, no results length wise. .25 in girth.

How was your routine like?

Originally Posted by the tiger
Stretching/jelqing combo access of a year, .5 inches in length .

Stretch and jelq combo always worked best for me. I haven’t had any gains now for 3 years.

So you stretch before the jelqing? Do you feel the order matters?

Originally Posted by the tiger
Well again, can length gains come from jelqing, yes, if you break down the septum with stretching.

Imagine this, the whole theory on length gains from jelqing is: break down the tissue-longitudinally- in the blood chambers of the penis, and those cells over time regenerating to eventually hold more blood, I.e. Getting length gains- your penis Chambers will be longer and can hold more blood=longer penis.

But the septum is not a blood chamber—going back to the basics of PE, the theory of “divide and conquer”.or you can only get as much gains from your weakest link. Your blood chambers can POTENTIALLY hold all the blood in the world length wise, but the penis will never get that long in the erect state, UNLESS the septum lets it do so. Unless the septum is broken down so it too, can become lengthened.

As I stated earlier in the thread. Some people may think they got length gains from just getting a stronger erection- thats not actual growth, thats just a stronger erection,
Also, length gains may come from jelqing at very low erection levels, at a downward angle, but those length gains aren’t coming from the basic principles and concept of JELQING- expanding the blood chambers inside the penis to hold more blood.those length gains from jelqing at low erection levels downward are LIG GAINS, LIG LENGTHENING. Those are not gains from the concept of jelqing, those are gains from STRETCHING the penis, as if you were doing a BTC stretch.

IN MY OPINION, initial gains lengthwise from jelqing are from strengthened erections, not growth, which misleads people to keep jelqing hoping for length gains, but those gains never come- unless your breakdown the septum, doing A and V stretches or fulcrum stretches or fulcrum hanging.

HERE IS A GOOD COMPARISON: years ago, out of my own immature nature, put a condom on a bathtub faucet, and ran the water. The condom expanded so long and wide it was actually funny— the condom filled up half the bathtub before it broke.

—Imagine this as your penis, and the results you could get from jelqing, expanding the tissues length and girth wise. BUT, say you tie a rope 6 inches long from base of the condom to the tip of the condom.I could put that condom back on the faucet and run the water all I want but it will never get more than 6 inches long, because the rope won’t let it. Same goes for your penis and Jelqing. You can jelq all you want and your penis may have the POTENTIAL to get longer, but never will GROW longer unless you lengthen that rope-the septum. Divide and conquer.

MY POINT FOR THIS THREAD: is simply that the old adage of how JELQING is the ultimate exercise to GROW your penis 1-5 inches in just months of 30 minute daily workouts—all over the internet —-is merely impossible. If that were the case, WHO WOULDN’T just jelq 30 minutes a day for 6 months? We’d all have 10 dicks by july!

I did! For 6 months, and got nothing.I am a veteran in PE.eventually after those six months of wasting 90 hours of virtually just massaging my penis for nothing.grabbed the head of my dick pulled it straight out, felt the “chord” in my dick, the septum, and laughed at myself for wasting the last 6 months of my life. HOW THE HELL WAS MY PENIS SUPPOSED TO GET LONGER ALL THIS TIME, IF THERE’S A DAMN ROPE TIED TO IT?

Tiger

Okay I completley understand your point now. The thing is, I’m not quite so sure on your definition of jelqing has to be from the .(Sciencey bit), it’s just known jelqing stretches the ligs which helps to gain length. To be honest I thought lig stretches and tunica ones were the only way to gain length. You know V and A Stretches just put more pressure on the ligs or tunica right? I don’t believe they do anything to the ‘imaginary like rope’ in the middle.

By adding in your extra V and A stretches you were stretching the tunica and ligs, thats all. I do jelqing regardless because it’s healthy for your penis and gets blood flowing etc which can only be good for gains.

Also in my opinion you’ve gone backwards.

Originally Posted by the tiger
I am a hard gainer. Done PE since may 2004.
I’ve taken a year off during this time. That was it.

I hung for 6 months, 3 hours a day, gained only .25 inches.

Used an extender for 4 months 4hours daily, no gains.

I jelqed only for a total of 1 year, no results length wise. .25 in girth.

Stretching/jelqing combo access of a year, .5 inches in length .

Stretch and jelq combo always worked best for me. I haven’t had any gains now for 3 years.

Total: .75 in length, .5 in girth.

Tiger

Look at what you said here, you started with hanging and using an extender yet went back to jelqing and stretching. These are starter exercises! You should do the hanging of heavier weights once you’re conditioned. That my friend is why you haven’t gained.

And of course Newbies should stretch as well as jelq. Thanks for trying to point that out but I doubt they could work it out from all the opinions in this thread.

But yeah I can tell you’re a little frustrated. Move onto hanging!! Every 3 months add on some more weight or whenever you think you can handle it. Do it like at least 5days a week. Every now and then for one day make it for longer period with a shock routine and you’ll be gaining. If I was you I’d do 200 perfect jelqs for 5days a week also. Good luck!

Oh and I have taken something away from this thread since I’m not entirely sure whether the A / V Stretches do target the mid penis also. I will do them also. Although I’m doing some aided hanging V Stretch thing at the moment which I just started and probably does the same job as an A Stretch, just gotta remember to do at different points along the shaft.

Here, as I understand it, is the core of Tiger’s argument: (Imagine a condom on a bathtub faucet, filling/expanding with water) “BUT, say you tie a rope 6 inches long from base of the condom to the tip of the condom.I could put that condom back on the faucet and run the water all I want but it will never get more than 6 inches long, because the rope won’t let it.”

Sounds good: my metaphor was a 5 inch chain on a 6 inch nerf innertube: either way, the cord seems to be the length limiting factor for those of us who have one - the shortest part of the dick, too tough to be stretched by traditional jelqing. (Incidentally, there’s been some debate as to whether the cord is the septum or dorsal thickening [my money’s on the latter], so it could save you some time and misunderstanding repeating old discussions to stick with the neutral term “cord”)

Audacia then says this: “You know V and A Stretches just put more pressure on the ligs or tunica right? I don’t believe they do anything to the ‘imaginary like rope’ in the middle.”

Not sure what you mean by “imaginary like rope.” The cord is well documented (if I do say so myself):

Foryourprivacy - Penis extenders & septum

If you don’t have one, congratulations, but some of us definitely do. We’re still trying to see if it has anything to do with hard length gaining.

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Speaking of which, please take the cord poll - we need more data:
POLL: Tough cord on top of your dick taking all the stretch? (Septum? Dorsal thickeni


Last edited by Foryourprivacy : 01-18-2010 at .

Originally Posted by the tiger
The condom expanded so long and wide it was actually funny— the condom filled up half the bathtub before it broke.

—Imagine this as your penis

: D .. : ) .. : | .: O .. : (

Originally Posted by Audacia
Also in my opinion you’ve gone backwards.

Look at what you said here, you started with hanging and using an extender yet went back to jelqing and stretching. These are starter exercises! You should do the hanging of heavier weights once you’re conditioned. That my friend is why you haven’t gained.

I agree with you, Audacia 100%. Basically, Tiger started at the 1st Hole (newbie routine) then jumped straight to the 18th hole (hanging) then went backwards.

Tiger, the thing that I do not understand with you is; Why did you stop hanging when you said you made 0.25” gains in that 6 months?

Wow! this thread is the most disheartening thing ive read in awhile. I dont think I’ve been more confused and skepticle since I began PE. I don’t even know what to do with my newbie routine anymore. Should I continue following it?

I’m going to look more into those V/A stretches. I’ve never thought much about them since I’ve always thought I could just gain with the newbie routine. If all im getting from the NR is gains do to better circulation…I’m never going to gain anything since I believe I’ve had perfect circulation to begin with.

I would like to hear what more vets think of this. I think this is going to change PE as of now!

Damn you septum.

You might be on to something Tiger. I credit jelqs and allot of BTC’s and fowfers for all my length gains hitherto.

But to turn the question around: Could the fact that I’m doing a lot of passive stretching combined with my jelqing, be the reason behind my small girth gains, and if I excluded all stretching from my routine this would give more girth gains?

Inn all cases there is no certain answer in PE, save for every man has to figure out for himself what makes him gain.


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The thread title is at fault here. It should have been a personal remark that gains had not been made- not a generalized statement that no gains can be made.


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Jelqing actually gives me my best stretch. The key to jelqing for length gains, even if you are using erection levels as high as 70%, is to stretch and hold at the end of each stroke. I jelq with one hand to begin, stretch to longer than my NBPEL, gently hold to that length and use my other hand for the next jelq stroke with the goal of holding my unit at or beyond my erect length the entire duration of my jelq session. Mind you, I jelq in 20 rep intervals so my erection level stays under 70%.

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