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A wise man definitely said that, once. And shortly after wards his wife left him for this completely INSANE man, who had an INSANELY large cock.
Haha, couldn’t resist. But in all seriousness, that’s very disappointing from the extender. I don’t know if I could have gone 3.5 months with out gains. That’s impressive in itself, at least to me.
2005 - BPEL 6.0"x MSEG 4.5" (BEG 4.75"/HEG 4.625")
2010 - BPEL 8.0"x MSEG 5.75" (BEG 6.5"/HEG 5.875")
Goal - BPEL 9.0"x MSEG 6.5" (BEG 6.5"/HEG 6.75")
Extenders should always be used with another form of PE IMHO.
I learned that the hard way too with my bloody max extender.
Current Stats: 6.9BPEL/6.4NBPEL 5.5MEG.
Current Goal: 7BPEL/6.5NBPEL 5.75MEG.
A wise man definitely said that, once. And shortly after wards his wife left him for this completely INSANE man, who had an INSANELY large cock.Haha, couldn’t resist. But in all seriousness, that’s very disappointing from the extender. I don’t know if I could have gone 3.5 months with out gains. That’s impressive in itself, at least to me.
There was one guy who spent years and gained nothing, I read a thread of his and I think he finally gave up.
Everyone jelq by the way, like at least 100everyday, it only takes 10 minutes in the shower and is good for your penis health, EQ and can help stimulate gains.
But wait.. Jelqing at a low erection level (lets say, 50%), is a helluva good stretch in itself, isn’t it? I myself always feel my ligs being worked pretty well after a good 30min jelqing session.
Then again, not do manual stretching to complement the jelqing is foolish if you’re up for length gains. My general advice is to squeeze in a little stretching session here and there thorough the day. 3-5 min downward and rotary stretching after pee-time is what I generally imply. (Drink a lot of water)
Start: 17 cm (6.70") - Now : 19,2 cm (7.56") - Goal : 21 cm (8.27")
But wait.. Jelqing at a low erection level (lets say, 50%), is a helluva good stretch in itself, isn’t it? I myself always feel my ligs being worked pretty well after a good 30min jelqing session.
Then again, not do manual stretching to complement the jelqing is foolish if you’re up for length gains. My general advice is to squeeze in a little stretching session here and there thorough the day. 3-5 min downward and rotary stretching after pee-time is what I generally imply. (Drink a lot of water)
I never felt much of a stretch but I think I did it slightly wrong. I’ve started to get hard enough, so that it doesn’t go above horizontal level, at at the end of the first jelq hold it there until the 2nd hand has jelqed half way down. You can put some good pressure here which I can feel pulls the ligaments slightly. I think that’s how jelqing is supposed to be done. Rather than previously at the end of the first jelq I’d take the hand off and then start with the other, which creates less pressure.
I disagree. I really disagree. I think everyone’s different and PE isn’t an exact science, but I do believe that stretching can contribute to girth gains and jelqing can contribute to length gains and vice versa. I think any sort of strain on the penis will cause tissue changes and that the simplistic way of looking at it, of “Oh since you’re stretching that leads to length gains and since you’re forcing blood in jelqing that’ll lead to girth,” is wrong. There’ve been plenty of hangers for instance, reporting girth gains, plenty of jelqers reporting length gains, and so on. Also, when you’re jelqing you’re stretching as well though to a different degree, at least I do when I dry jelq.Erect jelqing’s a whole other thing but I think it’s still somewhat relevant here too. Because there are different theories where the erection percentage in which you jelq will affect your length and girth gains. I think most people believe stronger erection jelqs contribute more to girth, and lower erection jelqs contribute more to length, but I personally disagree with that. 17ml is the most blaring example; he jelqed at very low erection levels but has had phenomenal growth length and girth wise. But there were many other factors to consider as well.
Sometimes it frustrates me, because very cheap affordable studies could be done in the field of PE, but it just wouldn’t be a profitable thing. If grass cured some disease would anyone be interested in putting money into studies to prove that, to then sell grass in a pill or whatever? It could so easily be done, cheap controlled studies in the field of PE, but no one’s really interested, and we’re sort of left in the semi-organized chaos of the internet. Pills and surgery are so much more profitable. Anyway, I’m interested as well in what people have to say on this. Erection strength I think being an important factor to consider.
Very well put and I agree. You said you didn’t necessarily agree that high erection jelqs yield more girth and moderate erection jelqs yield more length. That seems to be the case with me, which only goes to support the idea that everyone is different. Again, well put.
HERE IS A GOOD COMPARISON: years ago, out of my own immature nature, put a condom on a bathtub faucet, and ran the water. The condom expanded so long and wide it was actually funny— the condom filled up half the bathtub before it broke.
Umm… yeah.
This makes me think you have an extraordinarily small bathtub.
What do you bathe in it? Ferrets?
If this is, in your mind, a ‘good comparison’ I’m thinking you may be routinely comparing apples to oranges.
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I don’t know if I could have gone 3.5 months with out gains. That’s impressive in itself, at least to me.
Nearly that long for me, back in the day. plenty of guys go that long and even longer before seeing any gains at all.
Running a Massive Co-Front.
Wouldn’t you be able to gain simply from heating before the jelquing? You would think that 5-10 minutes of heat is going to make this “chord” tissue pliable enough to stretch simply from jelquing?
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but this is causing the disillusionment in me that some of the posters feared. :-/
In the literature I’ve read on this site about jelqing, everything says use 40% - 80% erection. From my recollection, you should not jelq without 40% engorgement because otherwise there will be too much imbalance in the engorgement from beginning of stroke to end. I mean sure, you might get some length gains if your tissue remains pliable enough for you to stretch during the stroke (especially holding at the end). But isn’t jelqing with too little of an erection responsible for the dreaded “baseball bat” phenomenon?
9/10/2014: 6.00 BPEL x 4.5 EG
10/2/2014 6.25 BPEL x 4.75 EG
Goal: 7.50 BPEL x 6 EG by 5/2015- Can he make it?
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but this is causing the disillusionment in me that some of the posters feared. :-/In the literature I’ve read on this site about jelqing, everything says use 40% - 80% erection. From my recollection, you should not jelq without 40% engorgement because otherwise there will be too much imbalance in the engorgement from beginning of stroke to end. I mean sure, you might get some length gains if your tissue remains pliable enough for you to stretch during the stroke (especially holding at the end). But isn’t jelqing with too little of an erection responsible for the dreaded “baseball bat” phenomenon?
It may result in the baseball bat effect over a protracted period. Stay closer to 80% and find your sweet spot.
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Goal:10.0bpX7.25mseg Building a thicker unit, click by click, pump by pump, jelq by jelq!
Wonder if Tiger has made any gains over the past 4 years.
Everyone needs to be reminded of this thread Movin On Up
ER jelqed almost exclusively and got tremendous length gains in a short amount of time.. He kept the stress low and took a lot of days off. His routine is what has allowed me to gain over a 1/4 inch in the last couple months after only gaining about 1/16-1/8th BP from 2-3 years of inconsistent over training.
Everyone needs to be reminded of this thread Movin On UpER jelqed almost exclusively and got tremendous length gains in a short amount of time.. He kept the stress low and took a lot of days off. His routine is what has allowed me to gain over a 1/4 inch in the last couple months after only gaining about 1/16-1/8th BP from 2-3 years of inconsistent over training.
He wrote:
"This is what I am doing, and although it is too new to post gains as proof, it feels like it is working. I have been paying hyper-close attention to the way my penis feels over these last years, and am highly confident it is working.
2 on, 1 off, 2 on, 3 off
300-350 jelqs**
NO ejaculation from masturbation during the 2 on, 1 off, 2 on part, only during the 3 off.
**Trying to make each jelq as productive as possible. Digging deep into the inner penis, going slow, and trying to have a perfect amount of erection for each jelq. Plump, but not hard.
The result of the last months for me can be summed up like this:
I am more convinced than ever that as I increase the intensity of my workouts I need to increase the amount of time off. Increasing the intensity of the workout and reducing the amount of time off simply does not work for me. Reducing the amount of time off does not work for me as a way to increase the overall intensity of my PE."
Interesting. Seems like a lot of jelqs. He previously mentioned limiting to 150. (???)
Yes, he later mentions that he wished he would have kept it around 100-150. His jelqs are New Jelq City style so low erection level and low intensity so 300 of those isn’t the same as 300 of the 50-70% erection level jelq’s. I think the rest days are key as well as the no masturbation. I’ve noticed a difference personally. Measuring everyday or as much as possible is key as well I think. The BPFSL measurements have proven very useful for me and they seem to indicate future gains as the length of it stretched out grows.