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Does Sex/Masturbation Hinder Gains

Not at all. I’m 20 and feel compelled to have an orgasm once a day. In the 8 months I’ve been doing PE, I’ve made what I believe to be impressive gains. I’d get blue balls if I did PE without ejaculating at the end of each session because they always involve porn. It never even occurred to me that people could do PE without ejaculating at the end of their sessions.>_>


Start - 09/10: BPEL: 5.9" Mid-Shaft EG: 4.5" Base EG: 4.8"

August 2015: BPEL: 7" Mid-Shaft EG: 5.1" Base EG: 5.8"

Goal: BPEL: 7.5" EG: 6.0"

Can someone make a compelling argument why masturbation would hinder gains.

Ok, I’ll admit it I masturbate about everyday, at least when I’m not having sex. I’m young, and horny, and my eq is great. That being said. I’ve read tons of threads about it. Yes, I did use that search button. My question is most people tend to either day their routine (yes i do, no i don’t) and the affect it has given them.

Possible I could see the tugging on your penis during the off days to be over doing it( but its much more of a squeeze, and not really a stretch). I know neurotransmitters are released when you ejaculate and some nutrients are depleted, but hey I eat healthy. Occasionally, I do take breaks if I feel my testosterone energy is low, but it is rarely the case. That being said I’m really not here to argue why I masturbate, I mean lets face it if you aren’t on drugs, it comes close to a great feeling right?

So how could this hinder gains. I’ve read tons of posts where people say oh, I have sex, and I wouldn’t sacrifice that for pe. Well isn’t sex and masturbating kind of a similar motion, and there is the whole ejaculatory thing to it as well?

I’m inclined to believe that this is just recycled superstition. I mean I could see how it could be hard to have sex over and over again on your off days, if you were recovering, but why would anyone want to sacrifice sex or masturbation for pe if it doesn’t help. Unless we want it to be visually pleasing, what is the point?

Thoughts?

This is a hot topic, and always will be. There are people who believes is ok, and others that does not.

Here’s the compelling argument from my perspective:

Orgasm inverts the relationship between dopamine and prolactin in your system. Sexual excitement builds dopamine, the master pleasure neurochemical. Once you orgasm, prolactin levels rise and dopamine drops. Higher prolactin levels are related to a number of “PE adverse” effects including less free testosterone. After orgasm, your penis will be less energized as it enters a resting state until levels balance and the build starts again. Instead of going all the way to orgasm, experiment with edging and learning to separate near orgasm from “over the cliff” ejaculation. It’s 90% as pleasurable (sometimes more) and will keep you charged with all the benefits to PE.

You mention you’re young and youth covers a lot of gaps. As I’ve aged I’ve found I have to play the game differently. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much now, but experiment with different states and find a balance.

Originally Posted by danwilke
Here’s the compelling argument from my perspective:

Orgasm inverts the relationship between dopamine and prolactin in your system. Sexual excitement builds dopamine, the master pleasure neurochemical. Once you orgasm, prolactin levels rise and dopamine drops. Higher prolactin levels are related to a number of “PE adverse” effects including less free testosterone. After orgasm, your penis will be less energized as it enters a resting state until levels balance and the build starts again. Instead of going all the way to orgasm, experiment with edging and learning to separate near orgasm from “over the cliff” ejaculation. It’s 90% as pleasurable (sometimes more) and will keep you charged with all the benefits to PE.

You mention you’re young and youth covers a lot of gaps. As I’ve aged I’ve found I have to play the game differently. So I wouldn’t worry about it too much now, but experiment with different states and find a balance.

Well youngish, it really depends who I’m talking too. I agree with you 100% the science is right on, but wouldn’t that argument apply to orgasming during sex as well?

I think people (not you) are separating physiological affects from sex from masturbation, and I believe that are mostly the same.

Really? Do you have any link for that, Danwilke? Because as far as I know, science says quite the adverse:

ENDOCRINE EFFECTS OF MASTURBATION IN MEN

K. PURVIS,
B.-M. LANDGREN,
Z. CEKAN and
E. DICZFALUSY

SUMMARY

The levels of pregnenolone, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHA), androstenedione, testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT), oestrone, oestradiol, cortisol and luteinizing hormone (LH) were measured in the peripheral plasma of a group of young, apparently healthy males before and after masturbation.The same steroids were also determined in a control study…… The plasma levels of all steroids were significantly increased after masturbation, whereas steroid levels remained unchanged in the control study.
….
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.o…84-8c93b02bb287

Marinera, do they say how long were the steroids increased in the “masturbation group” ? Because if it would be a spike in those and then a crash which would get those steroids in a lower range than before masturbation, wouldn’t be quite ok.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

I don’t know, read the full article Alin. This ‘spike and crash’ sounds like an arbitrary hypothesis to me.

Very interesting information.
I noticed the DHT is also higher in the males that were masturbating.

I wonder if there really is some correlation to that whole thing about “masturbation and hair loss.” Hair loss being caused by DHT being too high in the body.

Does the study include whether they ejaculated or not, and if they did not, was their steroid levels unchanged, or higher, etc.

Of course they ejaculated Phantasm, since the study was carried on semen donators.

Hair loss, that’s false. Masturbation just makes grow hairs on your palms. (:

I doubt, since the study is 36 year old. People just pick up any tortuous study that seems to validate their mistic opinions, that’s why apparently no one ever heard of it.

Sex after jelqing

Hi after you finish jelqing after how many hours you can have intercourse thank you


Start July 07 2011

Length 6.5 Girth 5.3

Goal : Length 7.5 Girth 6.2

PE should not interfere with sex! If jelqing interferes with sexual performance, then either forego the jelq session or plan it so that you recover in time.

I can have sex straight away even after jelqing. Though I like to do my PE in the morning and get my loving in the evening. But if sex is on the card in the morning, I don’t bother with the PE.:)

Do what suits you best mk.

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