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Building The Ultimate Length Routine: A Brainstorming Approach

We could also clarify what we want to do.

What I understood was this:

We create a protocol for intermediate PEers who want to gain length. I hope we agree different exercises will work differently for different people, so there’s no point in defining a routine solely based on hanging/extending/manual .
My thought was, to avoid members trying too many things at the same time, not giving a fair go to each exercise and getting discouraged , we could write down a protocol made of various routines, assembled in an order suggested by a few parameters (see earlier posts).
Following these routines most members could end up saving time.

I’m sure some will state fulcrum stretches , or hanging, or extending, have to give gains no matter who perform them. I know memento often mentioned girthwork aids lengthwork. So if you disagree you are very welcome to post why.

If the idea of a protocol is completely stupid and nonsense, then please let me know in a very careful, delicate, gentle manner. I’m a very sensitive person.

Originally Posted by marinera
Many replies. Keep them coming.

I think the idea of the experiment(s?) is fashinanting, but not really feaseble. We should have many people inolved.

I would say, let’s go ahead just searching for the points on which experienced PEers tend to agree, for now. The angle question is still open : do you believe is a must to work all the angles, or just one, or two?

I believe all angles except stretching upwards. Behind the cheeks too should be involved. I am saying this cause when I stretch upwards , the next day my EQ suffers. Not just once or twice. Always. So I stopped stretching upwards. Could only be me.

Next?


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by Walter5169
We could also clarify what we want to do.

What I understood was this:

We create a protocol for intermediate PEers who want to gain length. I hope we agree different exercises will work differently for different people, so there’s no point in defining a routine solely based on hanging/extending/manual .
My thought was, to avoid members trying too many things at the same time, not giving a fair go to each exercise and getting discouraged , we could write down a protocol made of various routines, assembled in an order suggested by a few parameters (see earlier posts).
Following these routines most members could end up saving time.

I’m sure some will state fulcrum stretches , or hanging, or extending, have to give gains no matter who perform them. I know memento often mentioned girthwork aids lengthwork. So if you disagree you are very welcome to post why.

If the idea of a protocol is completely stupid and nonsense, then please let me know in a very careful, delicate, gentle manner. I’m a very sensitive person.

I say,let’s build a streching routine, a hanging routine, both involving jelqing and a third mixed one.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

I’ve done a manual routine for over two months, I’ve started to use an extender angain and for the most part I wear it stretching upwards (due mainly to it being more feasible wearing it that way while out and out doing the daily grind), I do wear it down sometimes at home, but the percentage would have to be 80 - 90% stretching up to 10 - 20% stretching down. My eq is through the roof right now, my morning wood is actually ridiculous right now, the other day I had a hard on (morning wood) for over twenty minutes without even doing anything or trying to maintain it,it was just there and it wouldn’t go away. It was an interesting feeling, I’m 28 now and even when I was young and in puberty I never had the type of wood I have now from pe. Bill 10 I think your experience might be an isolated exception with stretching up? Otherwise I guess I’m the exception… these types of experiments are hard cause literally everyone is different and nothing with work with everyone. Similarly to workouts and diet… there are to many elements which are different.

The understanding of Pe could hold this problem for a long time. Blood type, diet, lifestyles, there are so many variables that can effect the outcomes of the effectiveness of a pe routine from one person to another.


Start: Nov 13 - FL: 3.5", FG: 4", BPEL: 6.813, EL: 6.25", EG: 4.75"

Dec 13 - TBD

Short term: EL: 7"x5.5" Dream: EL:8"x6"

Originally Posted by Shooting8
I’ve done a manual routine for over two months, I’ve started to use an extender angain and for the most part I wear it stretching upwards (due mainly to it being more feasible wearing it that way while out and out doing the daily grind), I do wear it down sometimes at home, but the percentage would have to be 80 - 90% stretching up to 10 - 20% stretching down. My eq is through the roof right now, my morning wood is actually ridiculous right now, the other day I had a hard on (morning wood) for over twenty minutes without even doing anything or trying to maintain it,it was just there and it wouldn’t go away. It was an interesting feeling, I’m 28 now and even when I was young and in puberty I never had the type of wood I have now from pe. Bill 10 I think your experience might be an isolated exception with stretching up? Otherwise I guess I’m the exception… these types of experiments are hard cause literally everyone is different and nothing with work with everyone. Similarly to workouts and diet… there are to many elements which are different.

The understanding of Pe could hold this problem for a long time. Blood type, diet, lifestyles, there are so many variables that can effect the outcomes of the effectiveness of a pe routine from one person to another.

You are probably right. All other angles don’t affect my EQ. Upwards stretching fucks me up. It’s probably me.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Originally Posted by Walter5169
We could also clarify what we want to do.

What I understood was this:

We create a protocol for intermediate PEers who want to gain length. I hope we agree different exercises will work differently for different people, so there’s no point in defining a routine solely based on hanging/extending/manual .
My thought was, to avoid members trying too many things at the same time, not giving a fair go to each exercise and getting discouraged , we could write down a protocol made of various routines, assembled in an order suggested by a few parameters (see earlier posts).
Following these routines most members could end up saving time.


That is something we could work on. I was thinking though more along the lines of ‘Let’s see what you need to do and then we will see how this can done with this device or another, or no devices at all.’. Both things are useful though, so those who want to work on the protocols idea can go on posting on this very same thread. Tryng different solving approaches for the same problem is nice.

Originally Posted by Walter5169
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I know memento often mentioned girthwork aids lengthwork. So if you disagree you are very welcome to post why.


The answer to this question, is not trivial. Girth work can help lengthwork, yes. But I think if you want to maximize length gains, girthwork should be kept at minimum. It sounds inconsistent, doesn’t it? But see how I look at this: your penis is a balloon. Your flaccid penis, is a deflated balloon. It gets inflated by blood and this is erection. Now, take a new party balloon, and notice that if you stretch it with your hands, no matter the direction of the stretch, it will be more easily inflated (at biggger size) in both directions

But, what happens if you want to stretch it at its maximum length? You have to stretch it deflated, because otherwise the circumferencial expansion will limit the length expansion. Analogously, what happens if you take the base of an inflated balloon, and clamp it? The balloon will expand, but more in girth then length (the shape of the balloon should be taken into account though).

Another thing that makes me believe that, are the pictures or descriptions of megalophallus as a consequence of priapsm cases; the penis grows, but mostly on the sides and less in length. Generally the victims have a bigger circumference then lenght.

So, at the beginning, girth work helps with length work; but if you are just interested in getting the biggest length irrespective of girth, than girth work should be very low.

Originally Posted by Shooting8
.. these types of experiments are hard cause literally everyone is different and nothing with work with everyone. Similarly to workouts and diet… there are to many elements which are different. …


Agree. For example, if anyone has searched for the best strength training routine in research paper, he is baffled that there is no evidence that any reps or sets arrangement is better than anyone else : is it true that 8 reps are better for size than 2 reps? Yes, no, maybe. That three sets are better than just one? Yes, no…

If you want to know those things, ask to anybody has trained for some times or read a bodybuilding forum; you’ll get a lot of misinformation, but also way more reliable answers than in any scientific paper.

Originally Posted by marinera
That is something we could work on. I was thinking though more along the lines of ‘Let’s see what you need to do and then we will see how this can done with this device or another, or no devices at all.’. Both things are useful though, so those who want to work on the protocols idea can go on posting on this very same thread. Tryng different solving approaches for the same problem is nice.

So, at the beginning, girth work helps with length work; but if you are just interested in getting the biggest length irrespective of girth, than girth work should be very low.

If you want to know those things, ask to anybody has trained for some times or read a bodybuilding forum; you’ll get a lot of misinformation, but also way more reliable answers than in any scientific paper.

Ok. I think working on your idea is also working on the protocol. After designing a routine for hanging/extending/manual exercises, all we need to do is decide an order and a timeframe to try each, then we have the protocol and hopefully a much better chance for everyone to stay focused, try various routines and in the end gain.

Ok, then jelqing at a decent erection level is probably all we need. It should also help with length.

This. Coming from you. I’m overwhelmed, tears spring out of my eyes and I really need to blow my nose.

Walter is on fire.

B-)

I am doing length and girth at the same time … growing both ways /shrug.


Current 5.5 NBPEL x 5.75 Base EG - 5.25 MSEG 7" BPSFL

Short Term Goal 6 NBPEL x 6 MPEG

Long Term Goal 8 NBPEL x 7 MPEG (why not dream BIG?)

Originally Posted by marinera
Agree. For example, if anyone has searched for the best strength training routine in research paper, he is baffled that there is no evidence that any reps or sets arrangement is better than anyone else : is it true that 8 reps are better for size than 2 reps? Yes, no, maybe. That three sets are better than just one? Yes, no…

If you want to know those things, ask to anybody has trained for some times or read a bodybuilding forum; you’ll get a lot of misinformation, but also way more reliable answers than in any scientific paper.

An opportunity to play it smart. Here I go. If you want strength lift very heavy, max reps 5, 3-5 sets, at least 5-10 minutes of rest between sets. If you want bulk, lift heavy, max 10 reps, 3-6 sets, 3-5 minutes rest between sets. If you are after conditioning, lift light, 4-7 sets, over 10 reps, minimum rest between sets. Personal experience.It’s not rocket science.


BPEL 7 EG 5.5 NBPEL 6.5 Flaccid length 4.5. Started Jan 2015 at bpel 6.5 nbpel 6.0 and eg 5.2 flaccid length was 3.5

I have reached my goal. At least for now.

Well I’m in. I starting hanging exsculive as of today. Starting from stratch 2.5lbs I’m shooting for 10 hours this first week then going to devote 15-20. And I’m going to incorporate jelqs.

*exclusive

For constant heat I also keep my Infra Red Lamp on during my stretching, Jelqing and Kegelling stages. Should that be enough heat? Even though with my hands doing the appropriate exercises, they tend to get in the way of the heat partially.


July 2014 BPEL - 5 1/4" BPEG - 6 1/2" (Measured around base)

December 2015 BPEL - 5 3/4" BPEG - 6 1/2" (Measured around base)

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