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Returning Newbie with some questions.

Returning Newbie with some questions.

Hey, folks. I’ve tried to start PE twice now over the past couple years, each time only managing to keep at it for small periods of time (a couple weeks at most) before giving up. Basically, I was living with a lot of people and family in a very, very conservative family that definitely would not approve of PE, with little to no way to do ‘stealth’ PE.

I’m 20 now, and I just moved into my own apartment this week, so I finally have to freedom to get to serious work on my PE!

I have some issues, though. I’m very, very small (5” NBPEL), and I’m having trouble even after reading the small penis thread. Stretching works fine, mostly, although I do worry about how much skin (I’m cut) bunches up at the tip. Overall, though, I don’t have any problems with my stretching.

Jelqing, however, is a big problem. Obviously I can’t start jelqing at 100% erect, so I end up with only 4 inches or so to work with jelqing at 80%, which leaves me with little to nothing to get a grip on.

I hold the base of my penis with an overhead OK grip with one hand (and have trouble not slipping, maybe I should try latex gloves?) and I ‘milk’ the rest of it with an overhead OK grip with my other hand, putting almost all the pressure on the sides of the penis. The jelq strokes are so short, though, because of how little there is to grip, I wonder if I’m actually even doing anything productive.

I’m getting more than a little depressed over this, because I really wanted to get to serious work on my penis now that I have the freedom to do so, and I feel like jelqing won’t be able to help me at all because of how my base-grip hand slips and my milking hand has so little to work with. Any tips I could get would be much, much appreciated.

(I also drink a lot of soda, are the rumors about Pepsi and Mt.Dew just rumors, or should I really lay off that stuff?)

Have you been seeing a visible change in your penis? e.g. more veins


Started: NBPEL 5.5 == EG: 5

Current: NBPEL 7.5 == EG: 6

Goal: NBPEL 8 == EG: 6

Originally Posted by mrlength
Have you been seeing a visible change in your penis? E.g. More veins

Well, no, but I’ve only been at it for a week. I just moved into this apartment.

You will be fine just continue stretching and jelqing.


Started: NBPEL 5.5 == EG: 5

Current: NBPEL 7.5 == EG: 6

Goal: NBPEL 8 == EG: 6

5” NBPEL isn’t “very small.” You’ve been watching too much porn. :)

Leave out the grip at the base. Use only one hand at a time. Continue using an overhand grip because it allows you to reach in deeper at the base.

I’ve never been a fan of wet jelqing. 99.9% of the jelqing I’ve done has been dry.

Originally Posted by Fou-Lu
Hey, folks. I’ve tried to start PE twice now over the past couple years, each time only managing to keep at it for small periods of time (a couple weeks at most) before giving up. Basically, I was living with a lot of people and family in a very, very conservative family that definitely would not approve of PE, with little to no way to do ‘stealth’ PE.

I’m 20 now, and I just moved into my own apartment this week, so I finally have to freedom to get to serious work on my PE!


Welcome back, Fou-Lu! I remember reading some of your posts from a while back (as well as responding to one). Glad to see that your living conditions are better now.

Originally Posted by Fou-Lu
I have some issues, though. I’m very, very small (5” NBPEL), and I’m having trouble even after reading the small penis thread.


I understand what you’re going through since I’ve had similar issues (I started smaller than you). You might want to take a look at my thread for posts on these matters. Also, you posted elsewhere (New here, some special circumstances.) that your erect girth was 5.2”. That’s a damn big girth, around 80th percentile.

Originally Posted by Fou-Lu
Stretching works fine, mostly, although I do worry about how much skin (I’m cut) bunches up at the tip. Overall, though, I don’t have any problems with my stretching.

Jelqing, however, is a big problem. Obviously I can’t start jelqing at 100% erect, so I end up with only 4 inches or so to work with jelqing at 80%, which leaves me with little to nothing to get a grip on.

I hold the base of my penis with an overhead OK grip with one hand (and have trouble not slipping, maybe I should try latex gloves?) and I ‘milk’ the rest of it with an overhead OK grip with my other hand, putting almost all the pressure on the sides of the penis. The jelq strokes are so short, though, because of how little there is to grip, I wonder if I’m actually even doing anything productive.

I’m getting more than a little depressed over this, because I really wanted to get to serious work on my penis now that I have the freedom to do so, and I feel like jelqing won’t be able to help me at all because of how my base-grip hand slips and my milking hand has so little to work with. Any tips I could get would be much, much appreciated.


Keep experimenting with grips. You should be able to find something that will maximize what you have to work with. I’m not why your base hand is slipping. Maybe you could give more details about this.

Originally Posted by Fou-Lu
(I also drink a lot of soda, are the rumors about Pepsi and Mt.Dew just rumors, or should I really lay off that stuff?)


I don’t know about the rumors but it’s a good idea to lay off that just for health reasons.

Originally Posted by hobby
5” NBPEL isn’t “very small.” You’ve been watching too much porn. :)

Leave out the grip at the base. Use only one hand at a time. Continue using an overhand grip because it allows you to reach in deeper at the base.

I’ve never been a fan of wet jelqing. 99.9% of the jelqing I’ve done has been dry.


I second both of these points.

I started at about 4.5” NBPEL (now between 5 and 5.5”) Depending on your fat pad, you probably have a BPEL of 5.5 to 6”, which is not small. It’s not huge, but it’s not small. No reason to be depressed, although I understand we all have a bit of a psychosis when it comes to our penises.

The low erection level dry Jelq is KING in my PE land. No mess, one hand, deeper Jelq. I do it like this:

1) With an overhand grip, focusing just on the sides of the penis, reach up into the fat pad as far as possible.
2) Grip the penis firmly and Kegel some blood into the shaft.
3) Pull outward, stretching from the base, and hold for 1-3 seconds.
4) Continue up the shaft in a Jelqing motion, trapping as much blood as possible and pushing it up the shaft. The glans should get big and shiny, and the Jelq should last 3-5 seconds. With a dry Jelq, you may not be able to travel the full length of your shaft, but that’s OK.
5) Release, Kegel while repositioning, and repeat 1-4.

This is my mainstay exercise (when I am not too lazy to work out.) I usually start this with a completely flaccid penis. It stays flaccid during the exercise, but it gets to almost erection size. After doing this for a while, say 10 minutes, I hang hot and heavy.

Sodas are terrible for you, basically legal poison, and some people contend that caffeine is a PE killer. Drink water and plenty of it.


11 JULY 2007 - BPEL: 5.5" EG: 4.75" NBPEL: 4.5"

11 JUNE 2008 - BPEL: 6.75" EG: 5.0" Base EG: 5.5"

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Thanks for the tips, everyone. I’ll try some dry jelqing instead of wet jelqing (I’ve been using Vaseline).

Also, hey Invisible! Glad to see you’ve made some sweet progress since then.

I re-measured myself just now after re-reading my old post, and sure enough, I’m 5.00” NBPEL and 5.20” erect girth. I must have just naturally grown 0.1” without PE these last two years, haha. I guess that makes sense, I was 18 then, I’m 20 now.

The dry jelq doesn’t seem to be working for me.it just feels like a normal stretch, and I can’t get very far up the shaft. I’m cut, so that probably has a lot to do with it.

Could I be doing something wrong, or do I just not have enough skin to work with? Maybe I should use just a little Vaseline for an ‘almost-dry’ jelq?

I’m cut too. Sounds like you probably aren’t applying enough pressure. Focus on the sides of the shaft only, and squeeze until the glans is completely full and shiny. Then Jelq up as far as you can. It’s OK not to Jelq the entire length of the shaft, just keep as much as you can under pressure.


11 JULY 2007 - BPEL: 5.5" EG: 4.75" NBPEL: 4.5"

11 JUNE 2008 - BPEL: 6.75" EG: 5.0" Base EG: 5.5"

KingPole is my Sensei - Goal: Just a little bit more - Progress/Routine - My Pictures - Perfect Measuring Technique

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