PE For Nephew

Actually, dude, a medical/ professional journal ABSTRACT is like the headnotes in legal caselaw- a thumbnail of what issues the case [or article here] addresses,.

So while providing the definition is a generally a good rhetorical trick, it fails here as erroneous- Main Entry:** erroneous
Part of Speech:** adjective
Definition:** straying from a wise or right path
Etymology:** Latin errare `to wander’.

Could it be that you misread SiamGuy’s original intention?

The problem the way I see it is not some light jelqing it’s the stuff that light jelqing will lead to like heavy duty stretching clamping and hanging. A young child like that has no patience and will push the envelope for fat gains. Look at us adults we push way past safety levels sometimes. PE is naturally dangerous and most people that get hurt just disappear of the forum. Look at a guy like Japp he hurt himself and couldn’t PE for two years. This is the reason I don’t tell my 18 year old son because I know he couldn’t be patience he would be in a rush and would be very easily influenced by self proclaimed guru’s who would have no care about some kid doing serious damage to his dick they just care about making a buck.

“Our findings indicate that transient low oxygen tension induces PDGF overexpression in rat CC, which in the long term may lead to an increase of connective tissue production. We suggest that a local impairment of the PDGF/PDGFR system may contribute to CC fibrosis, which is an established cause of erectile dysfunction in man.”

Actually dude, it is not erroneous in this case because just look at the above quoted sentence. "May lead.”
“We suggest.” “May contribute.” Far from definitive and VERY MUCH abstract. I’m not going to argue Siamguy’s intent. I simply called him out on saying things that have no basis in reality like how penis length stops growing by the age of 16, that hormone treatment to enlarge the penis works well before and immediately after puberty and that doctors administer this protocol for such purposes, implying that this is a viable option. While this is done to stimulate puberty in hypo-gonadal children, it is not done for the purpose of making the penis larger. Rather, it is done to get things working properly.

Hi Ultra.

It’s nice of you as an Uncle to be concerned for your nephew. Here’s my 2 cents worth.

There were a couple of kids in grade school, one kid (Kid-A) was handsome, always had the girls flocking to him, he was about 2.5 inches erect and very thin girthwise. Another kid (Kid-B) was below average in looks, was picked on a little bit (both in school and in the shower after gym class), and his unit looked like a 2nd belly button, less than 1 inch flaccid.

Kid-A, from outward appearance, maintained dates through High School, was confident, definately no mental issues, he could have felt bothered about his size, but didn’t show it or say it.

Kid-B, from outward appearance, Had some issues, but had what appeared to be a normal high school life.

I have bumped into both of them as adults, and they were both married and have kids, and seemed to have a normal life.

I dont have a clever ending or saying to this story, except that maybe it’s important to work on whats between your ears first, some how work on his confidence as a person.

PE is cool, but I dont think there’s 100% chance of growth for everyone. Teenagers generally have a short attention span, and they might not have the focus to PE consistently, could possibly end up being a negative. Plus throw in if he mentions it to some friends, then they in turn tell their Parents, and the info spreads around, well, it’s just not an accepted thing to do, yet, anyway.

Also, if there is a Mom involved, I think she would have to be in the informational loop.

I wish him best luck.

Whew!! I thought I was the only one who thought that. (just kidding)

I only just noticed that someone was attacking me in a thread after being pm’ed about it. Thank you to all who defended my viewpoint.

In response to Bionic.

1 - No, I did not state PE decreased penile gains. How could I when I’ve seen them increase my own.

2 - When I referred to hormone treatments I indeed meant the ones given to those with known hormone defiencies and a resulting condition of micropenis since birth (hypogonadism). I have heard rumors only of parents asking their doctors to give their children growth hormone in order to increase their height (for aesthetic and athletic notions). I have not yet heard of parents requesting hormone treatments to increase penis size in an otherwise healthy child (no hormone deficiency).

3 - I based my statement on a medical study that showed different penis size development in a controlled group (lab rats with controlled genetic standards) resulting from hormone treatments administered at different stages of their life.

"These findings suggest that early exposure of the penis to androgens in childhood may eventually result in a significant reduction of phallic size in adulthood."

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … st_uids=7609189

4 - There is another study that tries to contradict this finding, but you have you remember you cannot predict what the human penis size potential is without having several genetic copies (or similar) of him available to expiriment on. I have yet to read a single study stating that identical human twins having the exact same penis size (if there are differences, then isolating the conditions that limit penis size potential will benefit many).

http://www.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov/en … t_uids=10228293

I haven’t read thru all the studies on that site, so if you find any other info please feel free to post it and pm me so I can read about it. Thanks.

My apologies if any of this has been mentioned already.

Bionic, you complained that the link was to an abstract. As AndroNYC pointed out, this is a term denoting the kind of publication, and does not relate to the topics discussed therein. That does not mean that the discussion itself isn’t abstract (it often is), but that’s kind of beside the point. The paper is still an abstract.

5 - I based the age 16 and penis length maximization on this survey . I have also read it elswhere, but I cannot find the source anymore.

“May lead.” “We suggest.” “May contribute.” is the language of expirimentation and science. Nothing is definite in science, it becomes gradually accepted only through repeatable results. If you seek definitive answers without much proof, religion can help you there.

Dude

;)

This thread has turned into a great read guys, thanks :)

Again with the abstracts! Sure it refers to the types of publications but it also REFERS to the studies, in these cases. They are theoretical and may be in contrast to practical applications. These abstracts are also in contrast to eachother. Here is an example of a study that PROVES a theory:

“Experiments cited clearly showed low-force stretching can produce significant residual elongation when heat is applied together with stretching or range-of-motion exercises. This is safer than stretching tissues at normal tissue temperatures.”

This is excerpted from a thread on this site with regards to IR heat therapy. Notice the language? Are you getting it, yet? Oh and I read your survey several times and NOWHERE does it state what you stated. Furthermore, it is a SURVEY where you HOPE people are telling the truth. Because we all know that guys don’t lie about dick size. It did say that the average age of the participants was 15.9 yrs. Old but it says NOTHING about penis length, on average or otherwise, stopping at this age. Oh wait! I almost forgot this nugget of wisdom: “Nothing is definite in science.” Do I need to go any further with this one? HAHAHAHAHA! What you should have said to ultraborn, which you did not, was that there were two studies that contradicted eachother and provided the links. Instead, you took what you wanted away from these studies and passed it along as fact. Finally, these studies were conducted on men/animals with Congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism and micropenis, not people that were depressed over their penis size which is what is relevant here. Oh and BTW, I never said that you stated that pe would affect gains.

Sixer, would Kid A happen to be getting a little mention in your signature? :whatever: . Why that’s me! :spin2:

I think we need to contact Uncle Bob for you! :leftie:

He’s the expert! :gulp:

Bionic,

You tone down or your ass is out of here. No abstract needed.

Sorry about this guys, just now chiming in on this thread.

RTG did nothing to you, so don’t turn your anger on him.

Defending an innocent lady as you said is not “wrong”. Killing the guy beating her when there might have been another way is wrong. It wouldn’t be wrong if it was the only way. So while you try to prove RTG’s theory (which isn’t originally his to begin with :) ) you actually screw up the principal behind it. Two wrongs don’t make a right. No where in your post did I see a second wrong.

Shouldn’t you have rhymed with “8”?