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PE For Nephew

Originally Posted by Bionic
What I’m failing to understand is why my opinions are being met w/such resistance while unintelligent, non-scientific jibber-jabber is defended. Quite curious.


I’l’ field this one.
He didn’t say what you think he said in fact he agrees with you. You need to re-read what the man wrote.

Originally Posted by SiamGuy
Hormone treatment to enlarge the penis is most effective during and right after puberty. Theoretically PE will be the same.


He states that hormone treatment will enlarge the penis during puberty as a referrence to the point that PE should work well in the puberty stage.

He also states that there are risk but then again driving is a risk and they can drive at 16.

Why you attacked him like you did makes no sense what so ever.

Originally Posted by SiamGuy
As for safety. Of course PE carries risks. So does letting him drive at age 16. Hormone treatment to enlarge the penis is most effective during and right after puberty. Theoretically PE will be the same. If you do choose to educate him in PE make sure he knows all the dangers it entails and that you are not forcing him to do it.


In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Originally Posted by Pud
He states that hormone treatment will enlarge the penis during puberty as a referrence to the point that PE should work well in the puberty stage.

He also states that there are risk but then again driving is a risk and they can drive at 16.

Why you attacked him like you did makes no sense what so ever.

Really? So what you are telling me is that you actually believe that hormone therapy works well during and right after puberty? And the studies for this are where? There are actually studies where children in puberty and right afterwards were given hormone therapy to enlarge their penises?? Who’s not making sense, now? Again, I DID NOT attack the man! I attacked the “bro-telligence.” Alright you know what? I tried to help but you guys have it all figured out.

Originally Posted by Bionic
Really? So what you are telling me is that you actually believe that hormone therapy works well during and right after puberty?


You attempts to read between the line blind you to the facts. No one not even Siam is advocating hormone therapy for children. In fact you’re quite alone with advocating PE for children.

Siam didn’t even state an opinion he just said it should work but be careful if you decide to do it. That’s all the man said, and that’s when you went off.

You need anger management therapy thats for sure.


In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

I fail to see the harm is soft dry jelqing at his age. Not like they are telling the 13yr old to pump, do erect bends or start hanging with 20lbs.


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Originally Posted by SiamGuy
Hormone treatment to enlarge the penis is most effective during and right after puberty. Theoretically PE will be the same. If you do choose to educate him in PE make sure he knows all the dangers it entails and that you are not forcing him to do it.

OK so I made up the fact that he posted this sentence, “Hormone treatment to enlarge the penis is most effective during and right after puberty.” You just accept this. I went off because where does this come from? I’ll tell you where.his imagination. Then right after that, the guy that started this thread asked where he could find info on HRT and PE. Now do you get it? And as for me being alone in advocating pe, you stated earlier that siamguy agreed w/me. I think the name used for this is “flip-flopper.” And your comment about me needing anger management could be construed as a personal attack. Hmmm, no one commenting on that. The fact is, I’m not angry at all about anything other than people posting baseless crap and it being accepted as fact. But you know everything and can diagnose people you don’t even know, so I guess this is all for nothing.

There is another issue about PE in growing penises we didn’t cover - jelquing will place a load on the the non-return valves in the CCs right? How well are these developed, and at what age is the tissue “strong enough” to withstand the forces involved? From infancy, or does it have to “stiffen”? I’ll admit, that is the one thing about jelquing that makes me slightly nervous.

Second issue, and I think this is the biggest problem of all, is that up to 22-28 years old, men tend to believe that they are immortal. Before that guys will do just about any kind of stupid thing without really understanding that injuries could be for life.

Bionic, what is “bro-telligence” anyway?


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

I don’t remember where I read this, but I believe it is solid info.

Zinc is an important mineral in penis growth. So I would recommend a good multimineral, amino acid chelated is best.

I would then throw in about a 1000 mg of coral calcium a day for the full spectrum minerals in it. It is fairly cheap here;

http://www.nutrabio.com/Products/coral_calcium.htm

Whether it helps his growth or not, it is excellent for everyone, especially growing kids.

I would suggest a good multi-vitamin also, just to cover the bases.

Well all I can say is thank god Bionic joined the forum, because where would we be without such astute commentary. You have really enlightened us here today with you’re rant. I feel very empowered with the new knowledge you have given me. And I’m sure the rest of the forum thanks you as well.

I’m sure this thread would of ended up as all us guys going off and injecting hormones into our children based on what Siam said. But we have you to thank for setting us all straight.

Three cheers for Bionic, he sure has saved us from ourselves.


In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Hey Bionic,

Take a step back and calm down a second. You are entitled to your opinions, others are entitled to thiers. You can state your opinion without attacking someone elses.

Siam wasn’t saying that hormone treatment was a good thing to do, he was just saying that if it is to be done the best time is during or right after puberty. I agree that this should be backed up with some proof, but so should your statements that it is bad for you to do so (hormone treatment at that age).

He also surrounded that statement with the fact that PE and hormone treatment are as dangerous as “letting him drive at 16”. You can’t simply take sentences out of the context in which they were written.

Now, putting all the scientific “theories” aside, I beleive the best reasoning for not PEing until you are a bit older is the psychological factor. Will he know when enough is enough? Will he be too anxious and permanently hurt himself? If he is really mature then maybe he is ready. However, I have yet to meet a 16 year old that wouldn’t give his left and right arm for a bigger dick. If you tell them there is actually a way to get it, caution will be thrown to the wind and permanent damage will be done. Hell, I’m much older than that and I have a hard time knowing when to stop.


-rtg

Originally Posted by Pud
Well all I can say is thank god Bionic joined the forum, because where would we be without such astute commentary. You have really enlightened us here today with you’re rant. I feel very empowered with the new knowledge you have given me. And I’m sure the rest of the forum thanks you as well.

I’m sure this thread would of ended up as all us guys going off and injecting hormones into our children based on what Siam said. But we have you to thank for setting us all straight.

Three cheers for Bionic, he sure has saved us from ourselves.


Hey, Pud. You’re doing the same thing we are getting on Bionic about. Guys, we all want the same thing, why can’t we be civil about it. I know we don’t all agree about everything all the time…SURPRISE! But can’t we at least respect each other enough to not get into a personal battle. I don’t agree with some of the guys here, but I respect them and their opinion enough to listen without getting all worked up about it. The stuff I do agree with I use, the stuff I don’t agree with just floats out of my memory (which is incredibly easy for me BTW :D ).

CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG! :cry:

MAN, I need my spell checker back!


-rtg

How about letting the argument rest until Siam resurfaces and tells us what he meant?


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

Outside of extreme PE, I would be very surprised that a young male boy wouldn’t recover from any damage within a day. The real problem I would worry about is his mental health. I don’t know how a child would take so much importance being put on his penis, especially coming from an authority figure like his father. I’m 19, and I think I have been too sexually minded till now and regret it - it just wears you out/tones down your interest in regards to sex/women.


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Originally Posted by RoomToGrow
Hey, Pud. You’re doing the same thing we are getting on Bionic about.

CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG! :cry:


The difference is Siam did nothing to warrant such remarks. So don’t give me a moral equivalence to Bionic, because frankly that is insulting.


In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 there’s gonna be a flame war.


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That’s the last post I make on this thread. Someone else is going to have to defend Siam. I stuck my neck out, and did what I could. I just hate to see people’s words twisted in an effort to make them look bad. For no reason mind you, I see no reason for the attack.


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