Just Venting

Hey, Everyone!

I don’t post very often, but have decided to at least try to become a little more active on the forum. I have been doing PE for almost two months with little to no measurable gain, but definitely firmer and larger looking and feeling erections (and a slight flaccid fullness increase).

Forgive me if any of this is rambling, but I have a lot of thoughts right now I am trying to sort out..

I’m really just posting today to get some things off of my chest; straighten out my thoughts a bit. Sometime it just helps to write things down, and if I do it in a place where I know others will read it, I will put more effort toward making it concise and as complete as possible.

Outside of forums dedicated to PE (such as Thunder’s and a few other sites), the rest of the world seems to be convinced that this stuff does not work, and any gains claimed it’s supporters are either fabricated or imagined (one doctor claimed that any size increase was merely due to blood being trapped in the penis, and would only be temporary). Despite all “professional” opinions to the contrary, I believe that PE works for two reasons:

1) My own hopefulness
2) The integrity of Thunder and the members (especially the long time members) on this site. Everyone here seems sincere and really have nothing to gain by fooling those who come here.

On the one hand, it is sometimes a bit frustrating how those on the “outside” think this stuff is a bunch of bull.the close-mindedness and denial irritate me a bit, but in the end I guess it really doesn’t matter what they think.better off for those of us that do.

My intent is to see this thing through until I get the results I want, which come to think of, I had not stated, or really even thought about myself. Right now I’m at EG 5 and BPEL 6. They say you should set incremental goals, so let’s say I set a goal of 5.5 EG and 7 BPEL. When that works out, I can then aim for 6 EG and 8 BPEL. That would be pretty damn satisfactory at that point, I think. Now, just because I am willing to see this through does not mean I don’t have my moments of doubt. Sometimes I think I will never see gains, and that I’m just wasting 1/2 hour to 45 minutes out of my day.

Can anyone give me any advice or tips on how they stay motivated when results are impossible to see on a day to day or even a week to week basis? At ? Least with exercise I can see a difference of 2-3 pounds a week.

Some might question why I am doing this in the first place; I even ask myself the same thing sometimes. I’m of average size and have never had any complaints.this statement in itself I think says a lot. I do not think I am happy with just a lack of complaints. I want compliments, and lots of them. Is that selfish?

That is about all I can pull out of my brain for now; more may come later. Thanks to anyone who reads it and thanks again to anyone who responds.

The best tip I can give you about staying motivated is to practice visualization. Think always about what you are working toward. Make that your focus.

What is your routine like??

ShyMplsMale,

About 3-4 times a week, I follow this routine.

1) 5 minute hot wrap
2) 10 45 second stretches (1 up, 1 down, 1 left, 1 right, 1 in each diagonal, and 1 clockwise rotation, 1 counter-clockwise rotation)
3) 300 3 second jelqs
4) Warm down in the shower

5) I then do some PC exercises during down time throughout the day.

This is my take on it: Periods of slow or no gains are periods of cementing the gains you’ve already made. Even though you’re not gaining any length or girth for some time, you make sure that you keep your length and thickness.

Thanks for the response, Vurpollon, but I have not made any gains yet. I will keep that in mind when I do, though!

My advice would be this: First, who cares what other people think and what their opinions are as to whether it works or not. Seeing is believing and you have nothing whatsoever to lose.

I think setting incremental goals is important, but set ones that are reachable on a smaller scale. Create your ultimate goal and then break it down into smaller and smaller pieces. If you wish to be 8” in BPEL and you are 6” now then maybe you should make your first goal to be 6.25” or 6.5”. This way you are feeding yourself positive reinforcement on a more frequent scale. I would take it a step further: How do you reach your goal of 6.5” BPEL? How about breaking it down into smaller increments of achievement. Make your goal to be having one day of doing a full and thorough newbie routine for 5 straight days. By reaching your immediate goals you are making progress in your intermediate goals, while also moving towards your ultimate goal.

At any rate, you have nothing to lose. “The answer is always ‘no’ if you don’t ask” is my motto. If you don’t try and prove to yourself that it works you will never be certain.

Best of luck!

All good advice.

I would bet that if you backed way off on the jelqs like down to 100 or less, you would have a gain in 2-3 weeks.

That’s what Kevin12 did, he was in the exact same spot as you are now. That was over 1/2 inch ago. I suggest you take the time to read his entire log from start to finish, every post. I think you might find it sounds very familiar. If you read it all you will see what I mean. Look for “Today is a big day folks”.

The second link below is for a routine that many have been having luck with.

Kevin’s log…or soon to be “Log”

NEW newbie + advanced routine

Chrono..

I am about halfway though Kevin’s thread right now, and I think I am beginning to see what you mean. I will probably measure again on Saturday (2 month mark), then follow the recommendations you and he suggest (backing down to 100 jelqs, etc).

Thanks!

Edgar

I am not sure it will work, but I think you will agree that if you are dead set on changing workouts, that it at least can’t HURT.

Increasing the intensity, or moving to clamping/hanging, has the potential to HURT.

I am very confident it will work however, and that you will measure something good in 2-3 weeks. When you do, please get my attention and tell me!

You may want to take 3 or so days off before switching, just to kind of start fresh.

Good luck! I can’t wait to hear about your gains!

There are benefits to PE beyond simply enlargement. I incorporate PE as part of an overall sexual health routine so to speak, which includes breathing while PEing, edging and practicing ejaculatory control (working slowly and leisurely towards multiple male orgasm). It’s part of an overall health practice; viewed that way, gains are almost a bonus. More importantly I’m keeping what I have absolutely optimized; when I am PEing healthily I almost always have greater erections and control than when I’m not.

As for doubters on the outside, don’t worry. You don’t need external justification for studies and experiments into self improvement; the basic idea of self improvement is ‘self’ after all.

I Am A New Member Myself,my Motivation Is Being Able To Talk To All Of You About My PE Goals. I Barely Started With My

Basic Technique. What Kind Of Stretching Do You Do?

I took two days off, and just started on a lighter routine as you suggested. As follows:
-5 min warm wrap
-10 30 second stretches
-100 wet jelqs
-5 min warm wrap
-Will do kegels later today at my leisure

Still had a pretty good post-jelq pump even at the decreased number or jelqs, so happy about that. Going to try this for a bit and see what happens. Will definitely let you know one way or the other what happens in a month or so..

Thanks!

Chrono —

I have taken your advice for about a month now (had to take a week off due to some house guests), but it look like I may have actually gained some length (1/4 inch) or so. I’m going to give it a little time and measure again for consistency, but it looks like I am now moving in the right direction! No girth gains yet, but I think those are more difficult anyway.

Measure BPFSL as your primary indicator- BPEL lags then catches up.*
Don’t measure daily- in fact, don’t even use a ruler, use a tally stick

Get a hold of a paint stirrer from your local home depot and make a simple hash mark- that way no numbers are involved to fuck with your mental state. Then over the course of the first few days check the length against the hash mark simply to get a sense of how your dick changes across the course of a day’s time.

Then use your tally stick weekly to check results.

*In my opinion, newbie BPEL pop is more about regaining better dick health/ recovering lost size than actual ‘growth’.