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Estrogen blockers?

I’ve read that Clomid was mentioned in a thread to boost cum volume, and was wondering:

Does estrogen blockers provide the same horrible side effects as anabolic steorids? Or doesn’t it affect normal testosterone production at all?


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My buddy who takes steroids said that they were bad to take for long periods of time.


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Originally Posted by Retainer
I’ve read that Clomid was mentioned in a thread to boost cum volume, and was wondering:

Does estrogen blockers provide the same horrible side effects as anabolic steorids? Or doesn’t it affect normal testosterone production at all?

“Horrible” side effects?… don’t be brainwashed by the media my friend. If used responsibly and not abused, roids are very safe. Any drug is dangerous if too much is taken, that includes OTC meds like aspirin.

I’ve taken Clomid a couple of times and I didn’t have any problems with it, but some do. I did not see a big increase in volume everyone else seems to be claiming, but I didn’t take it for that reason. I’ve always had high volume cum shots anyway. You may notice some interesting side effects while taking Clomid: mood swings, depression and blurred vision. I’ve had those, especially the blurred vision, which scarred the crap out of me. My vision cleared after I stopped taking it.

Here’s my recommendation: Don’t bother with the Clomid. Drink lots of water, eat a healthy diet, exercise and take your vitamins and minerals… you’ll do fine.


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Originally Posted by JAPP
Here’s my recommendation: Don’t bother with the Clomid. Drink lots of water, eat a healthy diet, exercise and take your vitamins and minerals… you’ll do fine.

I agree with JAPP. For your vitamins and minerals you can take multivitamins. I advise you to take a separate zinc supplement because the multivitamins have a low percentage of zinc. Zinc is essential for huge loads because it enhances testosterone production. Don’t forget to take some copper to balance it out.

I’ve read on a swedish body building forum, that steorids is the hell…
They also pointed out that it can be safe to use, but it’s very hard to obtain..

The reason I’m interested in Clomid, is for the sake of body building. I’m very scared of the bad effects of anabolic steorids, fatiguing the own testosterone production…


Start: 17 cm (6.70") - Now : 19,2 cm (7.56") - Goal : 21 cm (8.27")

so anyone try Arimidex or 6-oxo (novadex XT as well). What works better? I am interested in using these products as mu estrogen is a little high. My testosterone is fine, but I feel when my testosterone raises so does my estrogen a little bit . Anyways, any help is appreciated.


6-oxo in my opinion is garbage, and while I am taking it I ALWAYS wake up like 2 hours after I fall asleep and then have trouble going back to sleep, it seems to be a pretty common side effect.


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So is that the only supplement of that sort, that you’ve taken? Have you tried Novadex? Please elaborate on your use of 6-oxo.


I’ll admit to being a BBer and steroid user.. I wouldn’t use clomid since it can be known to lower libido, and it’s known as a SERM not and anti-estrogen, it blocks estrogen from binding to certain tissue, but elevates free estrogen which can give you emotional side effects. It does increase your load size, in fact a lot of porn stars use it. If I were going to use a product to lower estrogen and raise test, it would be A-dex which blocks 50-60% of estrogen and test from converting to estrogen. I wouldn’t use anything like letro because killing up to 90+% of your estrogen will actually kill your libido even though everything may work fine. If you’re looking for something to increase libido look for cabaser or pramipexole which will lower prolactin/increase GH and can cause hypersexuality.. Interesting stuff really.

Let’s avoid suggesting pharmacs if one isn’t a Physician, ok? Thanks.

Originally Posted by marinera
Let’s avoid suggesting pharmacs if one isn’t a Physician, ok? Thanks.

That DEFINITELY needed to be said.

Thanks Marinera.


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Originally Posted by marinera
Let’s avoid suggesting pharmacs if one isn’t a Physician, ok? Thanks.

A physician isn’t going to prescribe something like that for the uses some of us intend it for. Things that they are suggesting for increases in test levels and lowering estrogen levels is mainly used for breast cancer prevention, so I doubt a doc will give you a script for clomid to increase your load size when that not what it’s main use is. Not to mention there is a ton of free information out there on uses of these drugs, just because I don’t have a Ph.D doesn’t mean I’m not educated on the subject.. Also, to be fair, there are a very large number of physicians who have no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to certain topics, mainly off-label use of these types of drugs. I’m just trying to answer the question that was asked.

Having used both, I think the sides from clomid are far worse than those from steroids. Stick with natural substances. Clomid is not effective for bodybuilding purposes.

Take ZMA instead. BEST non-steroidal testosterone booster IMO.

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