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05-30-2021, 07:39 AM - Today by Penislongerer

How to GROW the penis with growth factors?

Ok, so this is a developing (pun not intended) subject.

So, it is somewhat well know that Testosterone grows the Penis, but that the window in which this is true is mostly limited to puberty except for men who were under-exposed to Testosterone in youth, but then the growth they get as adults from supplemental Testosterone is limited.

Ok, so is that the end of it? Well, maybe not!

Other body tissues grow just fine without exposure to Testosterone!
There are numerous growth factors, and there is evidence that maybe they can grow the Penis.
There are a few bodybuilders who have taken HGH in very large amounts and had basically everything grow including their penis.
And there are PRP injections into the penis which when combined with pumping seem to be able to great more marked increase in length and girth than would be expected from pumping alone.

So, is that it? Well, there is also the Vitamin D study which showed that megadoses of Vitamin D3 can create penis growth, well not only does Vit D increase Testosterone, but it also increases IGF-1 (Insulin like Grorth Factor 1).
So those results could be down to an increase of growth factors, Testosterone and the fact that Vit D is a hormone itself.

Testosterone increases insulin-like growth factor-1 and insulin-like growth factor-binding protein - PubMed <Testosterone increases IGF-1
Vitamin D increases circulating IGF1 in adults: potential implication for the treatment of GH deficiency in: European Journal of Endocrinology Volume 169 Issue 6 (2013) <Testosterone significantly increases IGF-1

So, what can IGF-1 do? Note, there are many many growth factors, IGF-1 is just, well one of them.
"Growth hormone stimulates many tissues, particularly the liver, to synthesize and secrete IGF-1, which in turn stimulates both hypertrophy (increase in cell size) and hyperplasia (increase in cell number) of most tissues, including bone."
According to the Encyclopedia Britanica.

So it literally increases the number and size of cells of MOST tissues, even bone.ers? Boners?

"But why wouldn’t every body builder report this"?
Well first some do, but bodybuilders aren’t likely doing PE exercises, they take Testosterone that shuts down their natural production and likely leave the Penis less to work with, but more-over both the IGF-1 and other growth factors and hormones they take are literally USED UP by the muscles they grow and break down. The exercises and muscle breakdown and growth literally uses up these factors leaving not much for Penis growth!
Or, that’s a reasonable theory.

Ok, so if this is true that growth factors are a key to penis enlargement (especially when repair is triggered through pumping, stretching etc) then how would we increase IGF-1 and HGH and the like?
Note, HGH apparently increases IGF-1 also.

Well, no doubt this list will grow (and you could just buy IGF-1 and inject it into the penis directly, albeit you will need to obtain it illegally) but here is a list of ways to increase IGF-1

D3 - Take it with K2 and Magnesium, and if doing the rest of this you might not need to megadose it quite so high, D3 increases IGF, maybe after it increases T.
Bromelain - Increases Testosterone and destroys fibrin (scar tissue), T. Increases IGF-1 so likely it increases IGF-1 also.
Melatonin - Increases IGF-1 through release of HGH.
High protein diet increases IGF-1
Intermittent Fasting increases IGF1
High protein diets and low carbs both increase IGF-1
High Impact interval Training increases IGF-1
Zinc significantly increases IGF-1 (and Testosterone)
GABA increases IGF-1
Beta alanine IGF-1
Magnesium increases IGF-1
Zinc increases IGF-1
Selenium increases IGF-1

Of course, you can find articles on increasing IGF-1such as this one which I haven’t gone through fully.

BTW on the subject of the growth factors in PRP, according to a medical presentation from a doctor to other doctors, here are the number of proteins and growth factors in PRP:
Over 30 bioactive proteins
7-12 growth factors.

IGF-1 (and other growth factors and hormones) doesn’t need to grow the penis in the same way Testosterone does in puberty, it just needs to work the same way body builders grow tissues by breaking them down while high levels are present either systemically or injected or topically applied to the penis!

There is no reason to think that when non-muscle materials are broken down and attract healing under the influence of tension/elongation that growth factors wouldn’t help because they remain a key to healing after all!

Dudes, do you realize how big this may be in the area of penis enhancement?
This might lead to a real version of the pill that (with a little pumping, ADS, Jelqing) leads to real and relatively dramatic growth!
Or, a topical presentation, or injection..

Sure, it is as yet a theory, but there are no massive leaps here.
It is entirely reasonable, and there are ways to try it that do not require borderline irresponsible doses of D3 or injections into your wang or obtaining prescription substances illegally.

TLDR Penis Enhancement works by injuring and stretching the penis and letting it heal in an elongated state, therefore if something is responsible for healing, cell elongation and multiplication it would help, and IGF-1 does just that!


~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest

Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.

05-30-2021, 07:37 AM - 05-30-2021 07:39 AM by Penislongerer

How to GROW the penis with growth factors?

Ok, so this is a developing (pun not intended) subject.

So, it is somewhat well know that Testosterone grows the Penis, but that the window in which this is true is mostly limited to puberty except for men who were under-exposed to Testosterone in youth, but then the growth they get as adults from supplemental Testosterone is limited.

Ok, so is that the end of it? Well, maybe not!

Other body tissues grow just fine without exposure to Testosterone!
There are numerous growth factors, and there is evidence that maybe they can grow the Penis.
There are a few bodybuilders who have taken HGH in very large amounts and had basically everything grow including their penis.
And there are PRP injections into the penis which when combined with pumping seem to be able to great more marked increase in length and girth than would be expected from pumping alone.

So, is that it? Well, there is also the Vitamin D study which showed that megadoses of Vitamin D3 can create penis growth, well not only does Vit D increase Testosterone, but it also increases IGF-1 (Insulin like Grorth Factor 1).
So those results could be down to an increase of growth factors, Testosterone and the fact that Vit D is a hormone itself.

Testosterone increases insulin-like growth factor-1 and insulin-like growth factor-binding protein - PubMed <Testosterone increases IGF-1
Vitamin D increases circulating IGF1 in adults: potential implication for the treatment of GH deficiency in: European Journal of Endocrinology Volume 169 Issue 6 (2013) <Testosterone significantly increases IGF-1

So, what can IGF-1 do? Note, there are many many growth factors, IGF-1 is just, well one of them.
"Growth hormone stimulates many tissues, particularly the liver, to synthesize and secrete IGF-1, which in turn stimulates both hypertrophy (increase in cell size) and hyperplasia (increase in cell number) of most tissues, including bone."
According to the Encyclopedia Britanica.

So it literally increases the number and size of cells of MOST tissues, even bone.ers? Boners?

"But why wouldn’t every body builder report this"?
Well first some do, but bodybuilders aren’t likely doing PE exercises, they take Testosterone that shuts down their natural production and likely leave the Penis less to work with, but more-over both the IGF-1 and other growth factors and hormones they take are literally USED UP by the muscles they grow and break down. The exercises and muscle breakdown and growth literally uses up these factors leaving not much for Penis growth!
Or, that’s a reasonable theory.

Ok, so if this is true that growth factors are a key to penis enlargement (especially when repair is triggered through pumping, stretching etc) then how would we increase IGF-1 and HGH and the like?
Note, HGH apparently increases IGF-1 also.

Well, no doubt this list will grow (and you could just buy IGF-1 and inject it into the penis directly, albeit you will need to obtain it illegally) but here is a list of ways to increase IGF-1

D3 - Take it with K2 and Magnesium, and if doing the rest of this you might not need to megadose it quite so high, D3 increases IGF, maybe after it increases T.
Bromelain - Increases Testosterone and destroys fibrin (scar tissue), T. Increases IGF-1 so likely it increases IGF-1 also.
Melatonin - Increases IGF-1 through release of HGH.
High protein diet increases IGF-1
Intermittent Fasting increases IGF1
High protein diets and low carbs both increase IGF-1
High Impact interval Training increases IGF-1
Zinc significantly increases IGF-1 (and Testosterone)
GABA increases IGF-1
Beta alanine IGF-1
Magnesium increases IGF-1
Zinc increases IGF-1
Selenium increases IGF-1

Of course, you can find articles on increasing IGF-1such as this one which I haven’t gone through fully.

BTW on the subject of the growth factors in PRP, according to a medical presentation from a doctor to other doctors, here are the number of proteins and growth factors in PRP:
Over 30 bioactive proteins
7-12 growth factors.

IGF-1 (and other growth factors and hormones) doesn’t need to grow the penis in the same way Testosterone does in puberty, it just needs to work the same way body builders grow tissues by breaking them down while high levels are present either systemically or injected or topically applied to the penis!

There is no reason to think that when non-muscle materials are broken down and attract healing under the influence of tension/elongation that growth factors wouldn’t help because they remain a key to healing after all!

Dudes, do you realize how big this may be in the area of penis enhancement?
This might lead to a real version of the pill that (with a little pumping, ADS, Jelqing) leads to real and relatively dramatic growth!
Or, a topical presentation, or injection..

Sure, it is as yet a theory, but there are no massive leaps here.
It is entirely reasonable, and there are ways to try it that do not require borderline irresponsible doses of D3 or injections into your wang or obtaining prescription substances illegally.

TL:D R Penis Enhancement works by injuring and stretching the penis and letting it heal in an elongated state, therefore if something is responsible for healing, cell elongation and multiplication it would help, and IGF-1 does just that!


~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest

Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.

05-30-2021, 07:32 AM - 05-30-2021 07:37 AM

How to GROW the penis with growth factors?

Ok, so this is a developing (pun not intended) subject.

So, it is somewhat well know that Testosterone grows the Penis, but that the window in which this is true is mostly limited to puberty except for men who were under-exposed to Testosterone in youth, but then the growth they get as adults from supplemental Testosterone is limited.

Ok, so is that the end of it? Well, maybe not!

Other body tissues grow just fine without exposure to Testosterone!
There are numerous growth factors, and there is evidence that maybe they can grow the Penis.
There are a few bodybuilders who have taken HGH in very large amounts and had basically everything grow including their penis.
And there are PRP injections into the penis which when combined with pumping seem to be able to great more marked increase in length and girth than would be expected from pumping alone.

So, is that it? Well, there is also the Vitamin D study which showed that megadoses of Vitamin D3 can create penis growth, well not only does Vit D increase Testosterone, but it also increases IGF-1 (Insulin like Grorth Factor 1).
So those results could be down to an increase of growth factors, Testosterone and the fact that Vit D is a hormone itself.

Testosterone increases insulin-like growth factor-1 and insulin-like growth factor-binding protein - PubMed <Testosterone increases IGF-1
Vitamin D increases circulating IGF1 in adults: potential implication for the treatment of GH deficiency in: European Journal of Endocrinology Volume 169 Issue 6 (2013) <Testosterone significantly increases IGF-1

So, what can IGF-1 do? Note, there are many many growth factors, IGF-1 is just, well one of them.
"Growth hormone stimulates many tissues, particularly the liver, to synthesize and secrete IGF-1, which in turn stimulates both hypertrophy (increase in cell size) and hyperplasia (increase in cell number) of most tissues, including bone."
According to the Encyclopedia Britanica.

So it literally increases the number and size of cells of MOST tissues, even bone.ers? Boners?

"But why wouldn’t every body builder report this"?
Well first some do, but bodybuilders aren’t likely doing PE exercises, they take Testosterone that shuts down their natural production and likely leave the Penis less to work with, but more-over both the IGF-1 and other growth factors and hormones they take are literally USED UP by the muscles they grow and break down. The exercises and muscle breakdown and growth literally uses up these factors leaving not much for Penis growth!
Or, that’s a reasonable theory.

Ok, so if this is true that growth factors are a key to penis enlargement (especially when repair is triggered through pumping, stretching etc) then how would we increase IGF-1 and HGH and the like?
Note, HGH apparently increases IGF-1 also.

Well, no doubt this list will grow (and you could just buy IGF-1 and inject it into the penis directly, albeit you will need to obtain it illegally) but here is a list of ways to increase IGF-1

D3 - Take it with K2 and Magnesium, and if doing the rest of this you might not need to megadose it quite so high, D3 increases IGF, maybe after it increases T.
Bromelain - Increases Testosterone and destroys fibrin (scar tissue), T. Increases IGF-1 so likely it increases IGF-1 also.
Melatonin - Increases IGF-1 through release of HGH.
High protein diet increases IGF-1
Intermittent Fasting increases IGF1
High protein diets and low carbs both increase IGF-1
High Impact interval Training increases IGF-1
Zinc significantly increases IGF-1 (and Testosterone)
GABA increases IGF-1
Beta alanine IGF-1
Magnesium increases IGF-1
Zinc increases IGF-1
Selenium increases IGF-1

Of course, you can find articles on increasing IGF-1such as this one which I haven’t gone through fully.

BTW on the subject of the growth factors in PRP, according to a medical presentation from a doctor to other doctors, here are the number of proteins and growth factors in PRP:
Over 30 bioactive proteins
7-12 growth factors.

IGF-1 (and other growth factors and hormones) doesn’t need to grow the penis in the same way Testosterone does in puberty, it just needs to work the same way body builders grow tissues by breaking them down while high levels are present either systemically or injected or topically applied to the penis!

There is no reason to think that when non-muscle materials are broken down and attract healing under the influence of tension/elongation that growth factors wouldn’t help because they remain a key to healing after all!

Dudes, do you realize how big this may be in the area of penis enhancement?
This might lead to a real version of the pill that (with a little pumping, ADS, Jelqing) leads to real and relatively dramatic growth!
Or, a topical presentation, or injection..

Sure, it is as yet a theory, but there are no massive leaps here.
It is entirely reasonable, and there are ways to try it that do not require borderline irresponsible doses of D3 or injections into your wang or obtaining prescription substances illegally.


~1997 age 18 I was 4.7" BPEL and somehow grew either because I wasn't done growing and or some PE work to a bit under 6 inches without measuring or noticing progress at the time. Girth has always been about 6 inches but is slowly getting larger 6.2" at widest

Current BPEL after a little work is 6.2" also, Bone pressed stretched flaccid 6.5" Will update with gains.


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