Hanging: Ride the Fatigue (Blink's Progress)

This is going to be my personal progress thread. I’m going to follow the advice, length first, girth second.

Decades of experience in Athletics have taught me patience, discipline, and reasonable expectations when it comes to gains. In athletics like in PE, you must learn to watch your body, and the signals you get to determine whether to increase or decrease the length and intensity of workouts, exercises, etc. I can draw one more major parallel between athletics and PE here too: injuries and sharp pain is always a bad sign, in addition to being counterproductive. I’m hoping the many minor injuries (and a few major ones) in athletics will help me know when I’m going too far in PE.

My emphasis is going to be on hanging (see title) and I’ll be following the school of thought that complete rest days are bad unless I have an injury (Bib and many other successful hangers adhere to this school of thought). I’m going to do my best to approach this from a very scientific and non-emotional angle (I’m not going to suddenly succumb to the temptation to double or triple my workout intensity, like I’ve seen many other newbies do).

Perhaps my desire for controlled, measurable force helped me choose hanging as my medium for gains. The forces exerted on my ligs and tunica will be very measurable and very controllable with hanging. This will lead less variables to chance, and for me, less chance + more control = reduced injury risk.

Once I start hanging, my goal will be to reach fatigue within the first two sets, keep doing more sets, while reducing weight as needed, and I’ll split my sets between morning and night. I’ll hang daily to pull those crimps out of my ligs and connecting tissues and keep creating new micro tears. I’m going to avoid allowing the ligs to completely heal so I will hopefully be able to use lower amounts of resistance for longer periods of time. I’m going to work on increasing hang time first, and slowly build up to 7-9hrs a day of hanging. I’m lucky because I have plenty of personal privacy and I plan on exploiting that while I have a chance.

I’ll be targeting BTC first based on my mirror test, palpitation test, and my LOT of 9. I haven’t decided what my secondary angle will be, although most likely it will be SO or a modified SO with the RSDT (Rice Sock Duct Tape Fulcrum). The secondary angle will come into play when the first angle is fatigued to the extent that I can no longer hang. As time allows, and once my tissues and ligs adapt allowing longer hang times I may add additional angles. Of course I’ll be changing the angles, as appropriate based on PIs as well.

I purchased a Bib hanger and I’ve been reading up on hanging on both this forum and Bib’s forum as well. I stumbled into DLD’s forum, but I think I found the ridiculous amount of advertising banners there a bit offensive compared to Thunders, which is completely (and impressively) devoid of commercial interests (sorry DLD). I have found Bib to be extremely friendly and helpful; he sincerely seems to care (he’s been giving me advice on his forum). In my opinion Thunders is by far the best forum with a ridiculous amount of good threads and lots of experienced and knowledgeable PErs as well.

I plan to jelq on hang days primarily to keep the blood flowing with perhaps some BTB jelqs to restore blood flow after workouts.

I’m keeping a detailed excel spreadsheet log of my progress and I’ll be posting my results here in this thread.

For now, I’m doing the standard newbie routine. I’m going to switch to hanging workouts, arbitrarily based on the date that my Bib hanger arrives. I’m expect that shipping arrival within a month, maybe longer.

My workouts can be described as ‘light’, although I observed most length gains after a few medium intensity workouts which caused no pain, but a slight dull soreness afterwards (I shot up .25” in length quickly at that point). Its only been a few weeks and I have had nothing near the semblance of an injury, nor any discoloration whatsoever. So far, I decided to keep things light and increase the duration of the workouts first (I’m up to 15 min Jelq/ 15 min stretch, up from starting at 5 minutes each).

I’ve gained much more than I expected so far. Perhaps multi-vitamins, protein three times a day, nitrox, and glutamine with each protein drink are helping. I also take slightly over two tablespoons per day of a flax/ fish oil/ borage based blend of omega 3, 6 & 9 (one tablespoon per 100lbs and I weigh 215lbs).

—BLINK vs. the PVC Pipe—
While preparing to hang, I purchased a 4” PVC pipe, which I plan to convert to a PVC halfpipe. The purpose of this is to provide a stable edge to the front of my chair to rest the apparatus or weights while hanging SD, BTC, or with an RSDT (I purchased some rope to attach the PVC to the front of the chair). I got pretty pissed off after realizing that using the hardware store’s recommendation of a hacksaw to cut the halfpipe, resulted in a VERY sloppy, and wavy cut (after clamping the pipe down). This is in addition to the realization that the hacksaw can only go about 6” deep into the 3’ total length of the pipe. To be continued.

Note: for these reports, my measurements will ONLY taken before workouts, to assure I’m not getting an artificial number, and to promote consistent, accurate measurements.

So now for the million dollar question, how are my stats doing:

—Starting Stats—
BPEL 6.0” EG 4.88” 16 June 2008

—Current Stats—
BPEL 6.31” EG 5.06” 1 July 2008

Gains—> .31” Length x .18” Girth

I’m surprised and pleased to see that I have already made gains. Tentatively my goal is the popular BPEL 8”x EG 6”, although I may go for 9” or 10” BPEL depending on how things look (if it looks like I’m growing a deformed third leg, I might stop).

Wish me luck on my journey to big dick island.

Blink,
It sounds like you have a very good plan in place. Keep at it and I think you will be happy with the results. Let me know if you have any questions once you start hanging.
What weight will you start with?

Congratulations on the newbie gains as well!
shunga

I researched about 60-70 hours on PE in general, and then quite a few more hours just on hanging.

I hear most can’t feel 2.5lbs, so I’ll start with 5lbs. I’ll move up in increments of 2.5lbs. I’ll go by feel.

I’ll be watching your progress with interest. I was thinking of using the nitrox also.

Do you find glucosamine makes you lose weight? Its seems to strip fat off me, no shit.

I have found that glutamine cuts down significantly on recovery time. I haven’t used it on myself enough to give a hard figure, I can only say for sure, for my own personal physiology it significantly speeds up the rate at which I heal. In fact, I’ve effortlessly gained about 10-15% more strength in the last month (I took three months off from working out—so that probably helped break some plateaus). On the other hand, I can’t determine whether glutamine has any impact on my weight—I never watched for that effect.

Today I was doing manual stretches after 10 minutes of warm up. During the 18th minute of stretching mainly BTC, SU, and a little SO (I was pulling my unit SO when this hapened), I thought I felt something deep inside my penis suddenly shift, perhaps towards the direction of the base shaft, but I can’t pinpoint where this happened.

This really scared me.

There were no signs of injury, no pain, no bloodspots, no discolration, no loss of feeling, nothing; nevertheless I checked several times. After 14 minutes of jelqing, I did a 10 minute warm down, using a rice sock, I still kept looking for signs of an injury but found nothing. I forced myself to have an erection so I could see if there was some type of damage, and things were perfectly normal/ nothing was wrong. To be safe, I iced my penis for slightly over 2 minutes. Side-note: I was surprised to see that even with icing, my flacid stayed fat and full.

Several hours have passed since my workout, there’s still no evidence whatsoever anything is wrong. I am confident something inside my penis moved, but I can’t see any evidence of this.

I am a pretty strong guy (5’10” / 215, I’m currently the strongest I have ever been in my life—I recently gained about 20lbs of muscle mass)—and I wonder how much force I exerted on my penis. I in fact have no idea, and although I didn’t think I was stretching that hard, perhaps that’s meaningless…

I can only conclude I must have popped a lig. That’s the only explanation that could explain why something suddenly shifted inside my penis.

I really don’t like that this happened already; I think this is way too early for popping ligs.

I have finally identified some kind of new feeling since what appears to be a lig pop. I think there’s a very slight tingling that seems to come, then go, unpredictably. This only started a few minutes ago. I can’t pinpoint where the feeling is coming from, and it seems pretty mild. Maybe I poped a lig, and broke a few minor nerve connections (it has to be minor—because I don’t have a loss of feeling which I can identify—I can only feel a very mild tingle, and it only lasts about a second, and it’s inconsistent/ sporadic).

Anyway, these are new feelings for me, and I’m trying to identify them. I want to be cautious with my workouts—and I’m trying to figure out if this truly means I went too hard, or if I’m just being emotional because I felt something inside my penis shift (towards the base, although it seemed it could have been near the base of the shaft, I can’t identify where the shift occured).

By the way, I’m not doing a full or true BTC stretch—I thought I should point that out in case someone wanted to reprimand me for doing a non-newbie stretch. It’s more of just an SD stretch but I’m splitting my balls when I do it, so I thought perhaps BTC was a closer description of the angle.

—Nitrox: Possibly Helped Increase Penis Vascularity—
I have noticed a dramatic increase in the size and prevalence of the blood vessels in my penis since I started the newbie routine a few weeks ago. I wonder if Nitrox has something to do with it—I only say this because almost overnight I experienced the change. It’s definitely easier to tell when I’m engorged now; the veins seem several times bigger.

—Glutamine + Creatine: It’s like I’m 18 Again—
I’ve been working out quite hard lately; often 2 hours a day. Generally I lift after 45 minutes of hard cardio. I stopped taking glutamine because I stopped taking my protein powder while doing the “South Beach Diet”-although it’s zero carb protein, I just didn’t want to take any chances with causing the diet not to work. I was dropping a teaspoon of glutamine powder into my protein or cell mass, 4 times per day (cell mass: a creatine formula with ethyl ester)—neither of which I’m taking for the last few days. I noticed that just a few days of not taking either supplement and my recovery time has slowed to a snails pace. I’m getting back on the glutamine right away— and I’ll have to wait to cycle back on to the creatine. Effectively, with both supplements and a healthy diet, I found I was never sore more than 2 days, and I have experienced MASSIVE strength gains at the gym (since I stopped both supplements I have been sore 4 days in a row—ouch!). A few examples: I’m military pressing reps easily with 70lb dumbbells in each hand, I’m doing curls with 55lbs per hand, and I just tried benching with 90lb dumbells in each hand (90lbs is way low, I could tell immediately I could handle over 100lbs). What’s strange is, with all these weights, I’m often feeling excess capacity to do more; I have just been holding back to avoid ligament damage because I know my body is not accustomed to do the weight.

Here’s a list of the supplements I’m taking. In the case of creatine, I’m doing cycles, so I’m not constantly on it.

Blink2000’s Supplements

—PE Supplies—
I purchased weights at Wal Mart, they were relatively cheap. I also purchased an adjustable dumbell to which I can attach the weights, along with 2x 150lb max carabiners (metal oval shaped device with spring loaded bar that goes inward, normally used in sport climbing). The carabiners are not true sport climbing ones—they were about 99 cents each at Wal Mart. I’m hoping to use a combination of rope with the carabiners to create a stable way of hanging my PE weights. I got 3x 10lb plates, 1x 5lb plate, and a 2.5lb plate. I can’t tell how much weight the empty adjustable dumbell bar is, although it appears to be 5lbs. Overall, that’s a total of 42.5lbs. I figure it’s unlikely I will ever need more hanging weight.

I found a nice little mini cooler, it looks like it’s intended to carry a lunch (9.5”x 9.5”x 7.5”). I found it’s perfect to keep my home-made rice socks warm. I think I could fit up to 4 socks in there (currently, I just use 2x). Generally, my second rice sock is still quite hot after my PE workout (unless I get distracted and the sock sits in there more than one hour). I tried an electric heating pad, and a thermal clay based heating pad as well. However, there’s something about a rice sock that just can’t be matched by anything else. You can get it to the perfect temperature, it easily wraps around and molds to cover my unit. It also seems to really transfer the heat to the penile tissues extremely well. I think at this point I’ve lost interest in trying to use an IR lamp.

I did my best, but failed to find anything I could easily convert into and RSDT (Rice Sock Duct Tape Fulcrum). It’s funny, I would explain I need a pillow type object, which is very malleable, like a big rice sock—and the females at walmart kept trying to ask me what I needed it for. I told them I’m trying to make my penis huge, and if they were bored they could help. Ok, I’m lying, but it’s funny, I was only slightly evasive, but I could tell they were curious as to what in the world I needed this thing for. I think I may end up just sewing something like a pillow case to create the RSDT, unless I can figure out something that’s already the right size.

—Privacy Solution: Big Black Toolbox—
I purchased a big black & decker toolbox for 10 bucks at walmart along with a lock and key. All my PE weights and devices will fit in the box, and I figure it’s non-conspicuous. I doubt anyone will be suspicious of a guy with a black locked toolbox. I could always say, those specifically are the tools I just don’t lend anyone. My Bib hanger was shipped yesterday, and I really don’t want anyone to find it and start asking questions. I prefer to be honest with people, so it’s easiest to bypass the whole process by keeping people ignorant of things.

I wish I could communicate all this in less space. I think I built my natural talent for being long-winded in college when I was forced to write 50 page research papers.

—General Fitness—
I have been taking my general fitness more serious lately—maybe I’ve taken a full body approach to PE.

About one year ago I was doing reps with the following weight (just a few examples here, not everything):
60 lb dumbbell bench press (120lbs)
35 lb dumbbell curls (70lbs)
45 lb dumbbell military press (90lbs)

I started eating protein in between each meal and 1 teaspoon of glutamine each time (for recovery)
And I was taking cell mass (creatine)

I have had explosive strength gains, here’s the weight I’m currently doing reps with, and my strength keeps going up quickly—I’m being conservative because I’m 33 years old, and I really don’t want an injury; however, I’m finding I need to keep doing more & more weight to get a good workout:
(I know I can do 120 (240 total for reps) on bench, but I’m trying to let my ligaments adjust to 100lb dumbbells first)
100lb dumbbell bench press (200lbs)
60lb dumbbell curls (120lbs)
70lb dumbbell military press (140lbs)

These are not maxes—these are usually my 3rd and final set where I’m pushing myself a little bit (10 reps normally). My first two sets are for warmup and buildup to prevent injury.

I’ve just been shocked to see such gains lately. Also, I only lift one body part per week. I have a core routine that’s usually similar, however, each week when I hit a body part, I usually do something extra, and something different. Like on chest I usually superset with some dumbbell flys, and I’ll randomly do something else.. bench with a machine/ or something with an incline/ decline to make sure I really fatigue the muscle. Then generally I don’t get back to the same body part for at least 1 week, which allows the muscle to recover bigger and stronger than the week before.

Great progress report. I really enjoy reading your thorough analysis. Keep it up.

—Finally Got the stupid 4” PVC Pipe Cut—
(The halfpipe will protect the front of my chair and provide a stable surface for the hanger to rest on).
I got a relatively straight cut on the PVC pipe with a wood-cutting metal handsaw from walmart (about 12 bucks). The blade was stiff enough to keep things relatively straight along the line which I cut, and the teeth of the saw, although intended for wood, worked great on the plastic. The black PVC pipe came 4” diameter and about 3.5’ wide, and it fits perfectly across the front of my swivel desk chair.

I still need something to hang SO - maybe some kind of fulcrum. Maybe I’ll attach a hook to the bottom of my desk to hang the weight from. I still haven’t built my RSDT—I think I need to hang for at least a few months before my tissues will be able to handle the intensity of that type of fulcrum. After my initial skin stretching, I think my first goal will be to stretch my ligs and get my LOT down to 6.5 from 9. Once I have brought my LOT down, I’ll start working the RSDT and OTS angles instead of BTC/ SO.

Blink,

For my SO hang I sit on a weight bench and run a nylon strap out and over a hard plastic edge set at the end of the bench. I use a piece of plastic that came with my cooler! You can also just sit on a chair and let your unit stretch out and over the edge for a fulcrum stretch. it doesn’t take much of a set up to get some great hang in.

shunga

Thanks for the tip Shunga. Maybe with my phat 4” PVC half-pipe I can simply shift the position I’m sitting in to go from BTC to SO.

Perhaps I’ll have all directions covered once I get something made for OTS and one my RSDT is complete.

For RSDT, I may just sew something together if I have to. My mom is good at sewing but I wouldn’t dare bring this up with her (AKWARD!-Hahah)

My chair has a pretty high back… maybe I can just tie the other half of my 4” PVC halfpipe to the top of my chair for OTS hanging.

I’ve had some weight loss from the south beach diet + working out. I’m down to 207 lbs from 215. I mostly notice the fat loss in my arms & maybe legs, so far my stomach/ midsection look the same as before. I have noticed girls are starting to look at me quite a bit more already. As usual, I’m losing fat first where I gained it last (on my body).

My Bib hanger arrived today.

I’m extremely pleased with the quality of this product—

Tomorrow the hanging begins.

For OTS use a 10lb plate tied to a nylon strap. Then I just toss the strap over my shoulder. I put my robe on and can walk around and be productive doing other things.

Good luck with the Bib. Study up on the way it needs to be set up. The settings, toe etc are important.
shunga