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avocet8,

avocet8,

I’ve been following your advice for a couple weeks
with good results 5-6 days a week. My question is do
you start out with stretches or just go right into jelq

My routine

5-10 min constant stretches (usally 10 min)
wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
pump 6 minutes
wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
pump 6 minutes
wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
pump 6 minutes
wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100

This routine has given me another 1/8 girth but seems
that I lost alittle length somehow was 7 x 4 3/4,
now alittle under 7 (sometimes I get seven) and
alittlle under 5 mid girth). After pumping my girth
is 5 3/8 and stay pumped for a couple hours.

What do you think? I dont always wake up with a erection
but no ED (me and the wife go at it pretty much daily:-)

After warm wrap, I always do flaccid stretches but only for a few minutes. Then I jelk. Then I pump. And repeat the jelking and pumping until I get bored with myself. :)


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avocet8

Thanks! Pretty funny, for me its

3 sets, any more and I risking

blowing a nut (cumming)!

getpump;

I know pumping, and PE in general, are supposed to be fun and they are. But boredom does set in, especially when you go into a “plateau” stage of no measureable gains and still doing PE 5 or 6 days a week. I found it helped to vary my routines, adding some Ulis, anything to keep the interest level as high as possible.

Now I’m just doing maintenance, just to keep what I’ve got, and that is sometimes REALLY boring. I have to watch TV to keep at it. However, I know that I didn’t get these gains without a whole lot of dedicated work over a long period of time. We all have to keep in mind that this is not a short term hobby.

The good news for you, btw, just getting into this, is that gradually you will be able to extend your PE time without getting so close to cumming. You’ll appreciate that training during sex, lasting longer with more ejaculatory control.


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avocet8

Originally Posted by vegetagd

Let us look at the physics of pumping to first see what is going on. When you remove air from the tube,your penis responds by expanding to fill the empty space that is there. Now here is what makes all the difference in the world. If you use very high pressure, your body is forced to compensate quickly and lmph fluid is released under the skin to fill the empty space in the cylinder. However, if you use lower pressure, your Tunica gradually does the expansion and therefore you acheive “real gains” in size. Just like with wood, if you bend it with gradual pressure, over time you can shape it in the form of a U(shipmakers used to do this) but to much pressure too quickly and BAM its broken. I think the 20-year-vets may be high pressure pumpers which is all pumpers used to know. I talked on the phone for an hour to the guy at NW pumpworks from whom I bought my pump, and he said that with 1-2 hours of low pressure 5hg< pumping a day 3-4 times a week, he increased his size from 6 x 5 to 9.5 x 8 in 11 years. I know thats a long time but he said he prefers the girth and at some point the gains really slow down. Anyways, if done correctly, NOTHING points to pumping as non-permanent.

BUMP. This is the most logical explaination I’ve heard…


Last edited by juke : 10-30-2004 at .

Not only is this an excellent explanation, it points to the parallels with manual PE: both systems are based on a continuum between stretching & hydrostatic pressure.

While stretching is very easy, the basic problem with manual PE is that increasing hydrostatic pressure in a uniform manner is difficult. Ulis and other holds attempt to focus that pressure in places, but do it by transferring pressure from other areas (squeeze here, pressure applied over there). Jelqing applies both stretching and pressure, primarily to the leading edge of the jelq and to the end of the CC.

Pumping, OTOH, should apply pressure in a relatively uniform manner. Assuming you don’t go overboard (which is a problem with manual PE - newbies jumping into extreme Ulis anyone?), you shouldn’t produce the lymphedema effect.

So, I’d imagine the stretch/pressure continuum to go something like this:

Primarily Stretch-

Stretching ;)
Hanging
Wet Jelqs
Dry Jelqs
Holds
Pumping

-Primarily Pressure

Also, as pressure tends to work in a radial rather than an axial direction, it should be better for girth… as evidenced by manual PE-ers switching to holds to gain girth faster.
(I am /not/ saying that other methods cannot produce girth, just that pressure based methods should be better at it, a priori).

9.5 x 8?!

I think I would have stopped before that much girth, but good for him regtarding his gains.

Damn, my wrist isn’t even 8 inches around!

Originally Posted by getpump
..
My routine

5-10 min constant stretches (usally 10 min)
Wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
Pump 6 minutes
Wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
Pump 6 minutes
Wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
Pump 6 minutes
Wet jelq 100, 30 second squeeze at 50 and 100
..

Where would one fit hanging into this routine? Before, so that the tunica is stretched and ready to go- or afterwards?

I’m one of those long term pumpers.I don’t know if pumping alone makes it bigger,I’ve always looked for any PE exercise to go hand in hand,or is that hand on dick? I think that they compliment each other.and besides,it just feels soooo good!

I had some noticeable permanent foreskin regrowth, about one inch in girth and also some length from pumping only. Few (10-20) minutes in the morning and before going to bed are enough to keep growing very slowly. I started 6EL and 5EG, now 7EL and 6EG: 8BPL. I recently added hanging before pumping and jelqing afterwards and also do kegels. It seems to work more.

bump .

i noticed gaining foreskin aswell, i am cut but sometimes now ilook uncut flaccid


starting blocks march 19 2004 6.5 bpel 5.5 girth bpel-7.75 eg- 6 3 months 1.25 inches in length 1/2 in girth. Last month sitting idle because my tool is now black instead of white.

Seems too many guys assume PE, including pumping is something done ONLY as long as required to meet some personal goal - then simply walk away with your gains, and never need to PE again.

Not likely, regardless of specific method, hanging OR pumping.

I chose pumping because it fits easier into my surroundings and activities, and is accepted by my wife, especially with the abundance of medical references - OH, and I also have serious ED.

SO, the pump has given me a penis I would have KILLED for in my younger years - yeah, especially immediately after a pumping session, which is when I usually engage in sex - SO WHAT?

And yeah, the largest improvement requires daily/nightly sessions - SO WHAT?

Those sessions are easily managed - and even if I was younger and didn’t have ED, a pumping session WOULD be part of my agenda prior to a night out - the gains are quite significant and impressive for a very reasonable period of time, certainly long enough to substantially enhance any sexual encounters that might present themselves - what wrong or difficult about that?

This much I *do* know - I now have a USABLE 7+ inches where I used to have 5.5 - and 7+ girth where I used to have about 5. And if that isn’t enough, my wife is FAR more interested in frequent sex than she EVER was when we were younger and I was smaller.

All this in exchange for a pretty reasonable schedule of daily pumping sessions - so what’s the big deal? ;) :)


MrAverage

You say that I could pump my cock and go to the disco :p ?. If you lose your pumped erection, and get it back it would be a bigger than common erection?.

bigger-8inchM!

Edited. Started a new thread for a direct response to mraverage.


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