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Originally Posted by Penox

Now another quick question. I have pumped before on low HG with a lot of breaks for about an hour. Yes I did have some fluid build up, but i felt my penis in general was expanded in girth excluding that build up. So my question is this, if you take it slow and long and gain massive temp girth gains, does or has anyone get massive temp length gains in a pump?

My question is not to go out and over pump chasing these temp gains, it all boils down that I am a firm believer if temp gains can be achieved then eventually “some” permanent gains will follow.

I think its very rare to get “massive temporary gains” that is true expansion of the tunica. Occasionally, a guy will have a high percentage of elastin in the Tunica fiber and can expand a lot without edema. However most guys getting “massive temporary gains” its just edema. And yes edema gains don’t necessarily transfer to real gains.

Thats why its important to differentiate between true expansion of the tunica and edema. True expansion of the tunica will lead to gains, whereas edema may or may not, depends on what is going on with the tunica.

For most guys, during your PE you can get a little bit of tunica expansion, and that is good, but rarely will you see a lot of true tunica expansion.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I think its very rare to get “massive temporary gains” that is true expansion of the tunica. Occasionally, a guy will have a high percentage of elastin in the Tunica fiber and can expand a lot without edema. However most guys getting “massive temporary gains” its just edema. And yes edema gains don’t necessarily transfer to real gains.

Thats why its important to differentiate between true expansion of the tunica and edema. True expansion of the tunica will lead to gains, whereas edema may or may not, depends on what is going on with the tunica.

For most guys, during your PE you can get a little bit of tunica expansion, and that is good, but rarely will you see a lot of true tunica expansion.

Understandable.

I’ll rephrase it, do you get decent temp length gains? Just like how some get 1/4 to a 1/2 inch temp girth gains for a few hours after a pump session. Does anyone get 1/4 or 1/2 inch temp gains in length after a pump session. Excluding edema, lymph fluid, etc?


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Originally Posted by Penox
Understandable.

I’ll rephrase it, do you get decent temp length gains? Just like how some get 1/4 to a 1/2 inch temp girth gains for a few hours after a pump session. Does anyone get 1/4 or 1/2 inch temp gains in length after a pump session. Excluding edema, lymph fluid, etc?


I believe for most guys, that type of expansion in girth is edema, OR a lot of elastin in the tunica. That type of gains in length even from edema is rare, because you would need it exclusively in the tip of the glans to register as length, so its rare.

Most of the pumpers I respect believe they don’t really see gains during the pump session, rather a slow steady increase over time as the tissue responds to pumping. Most of the guys that report big expansion during the session, don’t end up with gains…but I’m sure there may be exceptions.

Personally, I find the first ten to fifteen minutes my penis relaxes and expands out to near my max LUV. I believe for me, edema can account for about 1/16th of an inch in length and I don’t let edema to accumulate more than that. So, I could say yes, I get about 1/4 -1/2 inch expansion in length in pumping, but really I don’t see it that way, I see it that it takes about 10 minutes for my penis to relax out to it max length. So, I guess you may get guys looking at it as expansion, I see it as not expanding past normal, but taking that time to relax out to my max length.

Where I notice gains is that I get up to that max LUV area of my tube in the first 5 minutes or less, and then creep past it during the session. This I notice in waves, where it won’t happen for a week or two, then begin gain again.

I am still experimenting with time off, and steady time frames vs progressive time frames as well as methods to break through plateaus.

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