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Why am I only gaining FSL, not BPEL?

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Thanks for all the replies, guys! If my BPEL one day catches up with my BPFSL, I’ll be a very happy camper. Maybe I should add some volume expanding exercises like jelqs and ULIs to my routine and see what happens. But it is really hard to jelq when you come home after 12 hours at work. If I don’t gain any more FSL and no EL for some time, I’ll switch to a girth only routine for a month or so.


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Originally Posted by lost Guitar
Faust, das problem ist die art der erretion, wenn die nicht wirklich “stahlhart” (und damit mein ich auch STAHLHART ist) werden alle messergebnisse umsonst sein .. Ich hab das selbe beobachtet

Habe 1cm BPSL bekommen aber nur 4mm BPEL, und auch nur dann, wenns steinhart steht ..
Ich hab sogar von einem hier gelesen, der hat BPSL 1 inch mehr als BPEL

Kopf hoch, und wenn du eines tage + 5 inch BPSL hast, dann kann ich mir nicht vorstellen, dass du absolut nichts bei BPEL dazubekommen hast ..

Lg Lost

Wollen wir’s hoffen…
Bei “stahlhart” fällt mir dieser alte Witz ein, vielleicht ändere ich meinen Usernamen in “Steinhard Stehder” :)


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Faust,

A lot of people have commented on FSL increasing before EL, but they also usually say that the EL catches up. So stick with it. (I’ve hit a wall and haven’t seen further increase in either EL or FSL.) But I have another theory as to why FSL increases more easily. I think it’s because it’s harder to get more blood into that newly stretched unit. What I’ve noticed is that when I clamp, my EL is at or just below my FSL. It’s certainly longer than my unclamped EL. Try clamping as a test and measure then. It would seem that the FSL is there waiting to be filled up, only it takes a lot more blood. So perhaps doing more jelqing would help.

If you try stretching the BPEL against a ruler it may be quite a bit longer than normal BPEL. I just dont thing there is the same longitudinal pressure as radial. My physics isn’t good enough to explain it away though. Yohimbine changes all that if you can tolerate it.

Guys, I have decided to stop hanging for now. I have started in April after a two month break, and it has given me almost nothing in terms of BPEL.

Maybe I’m overdoing it. The first days into hanging after a break seem fine, but then after a week or so, my dick actually becomes shorter than before between sessions and isn’t as “stretchable” as before. I can stretch it to the previous FSL length after hanging, but it generally feels less soft throughout the day. I thought this is what they call “fatigue”, but maybe I used too much weight.

Anyway, I’m back to 15-20 minutes manual stretches plus 30 minutes of girth work involving jelqing, ULI-like exercises (not extreme) and some pumping. In the past my dick was covered with tiny red spots after girth workouts. This time, I’m going to avoid this. I don’t want to injure the little fellow. No scheduled rest days, I only train when I feel good. Hopefully I can

I’m going to use one of those scar-softening ointments on my dick plus maybe one of those with leech ingredients after workouts.

I’ll keep you posted about my progress or lack thereof


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Since your problem seems to be what’s happening between your hanging sessions, perhaps your the best candidate for an ADS trial. I too felt like what was happening between sessions was detrimental to results. An ADS prevents the retraction and loss of what your hanging sessions should be giving you. I’d like to see you experiment with an ADS for a period of time. I could be your just a real fast healer.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

Originally Posted by Monty530
Since your problem seems to be what’s happening between your hanging sessions, perhaps your the best candidate for an ADS trial. I too felt like what was happening between sessions was detrimental to results. An ADS prevents the retraction and loss of what your hanging sessions should be giving you. I’d like to see you experiment with an ADS for a period of time. I could be your just a real fast healer.


As I have written in another thread, my BPFSL is actually shorter after a hanging session. The point of an ADS is to keep the penis in the extended state it is in after hanging. Since mine is shorter, not longer after hanging, I don’t see how an ADS could help me at this point.

I have experimented with traction wrapping. No gains, and it felt bad.

Given that I have somehow solved the length reduction problem, I would like to experiment with an ADS. I have done some tests, but all ADS devices I have used so far would cut circulation to the glans more or less, making it impossible to use them for more than 30 minutes without break. Also, all were visible to a certain degree. I haven’t tried golf weights so far. Maybe they’re worth a try, but you still have to wrap to prevent them from slipping, and I guess when the weights push down on the wrap it cuts circulation, too.


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

PEweights are designed not to allow the wrap to wedge itself between your shaft and the ring like golf rings. I’ve worn mine for hours, only needing to unwrap for urination or what have you. If you wrap properly then you won’t get a swollen glan. Also if you wrap properly then you won’t experience any damage what so ever. I’ve got 9 months of usage under my belt (pun)and things work better now then ever.

IMO you could very well see gains where you haven’t in the past because you’ve got a psychological block going on and with the ADS it will allow relaxation when your distracted by life. Just a thought.

An ADS might be just the change in routine that you need to bust out of your plateau. You are right though, you probably will have to get some loose fitting pants.


09-2003 BPEL:6.0x5.5

11-2004 BPEL:8.25x6.25 . . 9+ by Spring is the goal AIR CLAMP

Now BPEL:8 5/8 x 6 5/8 PE Weights

I think the solution is staring us in the face but we just haven’t worked it out yet. If it’s shorter after a workout then there’s something changed. I suspect it’s something to do with prostaglandin levels, but I can’t prove it yet. How many days does it take to get the stretchy feeling back? and how many days hanging before the stretchy feeling diminishes?

Originally Posted by Shiver
I think the solution is staring us in the face but we just haven’t worked it out yet. If it’s shorter after a workout then there’s something changed. I suspect it’s something to do with prostaglandin levels, but I can’t prove it yet. How many days does it take to get the stretchy feeling back? and how many days hanging before the stretchy feeling diminishes?


How long it takes for the stretchy feeling to return is a question of how many days I’ve been hanging. I used to think of the toughened feeling as the state of fatigue that most hangers say you should reach. The problem is it doesn’t feel like a fatigue where you are relaxed, but one where you get a headache, comparing it to overall body fatigue.
After I quit hanging for now, it took about two to three days to get the stretchy _feeling_ back. After workouts, it’s usually only a matter of hours before I can stretch my dick back to its original BPFSL, but it doesn’t _feel_ stretchy until I take two days off.
When I start hanging, the unstretchy feeling builds up gradually, a little bit more after each workout day. But my dick is shorter after sessions right from the start.

Is there any vet who can define what real fatigue should feel like and look like?


"Denn wer ewig strebend sich bemüht, den können wir erlösen"

Goethe, Faust II

Maybe you’re using too much weight.

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