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Very depressing post from a guy I always looked up to in pe

This is a great thread……I am sorry if I am bumping it late, but what I do not understand is through PE and especially jelqing are we not breaking and repairing the penis tissue, isn’t there technically “more” penis tissue now?

JapanNikon

Welcome to thunders, I think it comes down to if you don’t use it you lose it. I was 7 inches at 21 and 6.25 at 36 I believe so I lost that size just from age and less use. The penis may not be a muscle but it responds a lot like one. I’m now 8.5 and looking for 9 and I hope with proper penis exercises that I can keep my size for the rest of my life or at least the part where I’m still having sex.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Thanks for the clarification Dino. I see exactly what you are saying, and I feel better about it now. By the way great job on your gains, excellent!

I believe that some have more permanent gains since they have grown more new tissue as opposed to just stretching the tissue they have.

Its weird I thought that jelqing was better for growth than stretching, but maybe someone who has some knowledge of traction can shed some light??

It seems that growth would take much longer than expanding existing tissue. But more tissue = more to stretch = greater potential size.

So maybe a good strategy for optimal PE would be to do excercises that stimulate growth, along with excercises that focus more on expanding the tissue.

Originally Posted by RB
I got the feeling he did no maintenance. Plus, and injury like that could lead to atrophy, who knows…

For the rest of us, probably nothing to worry about that a once a week jelq won’t cure…


I knew a guy who told me he went from 5” to 7” by doing PE, and then quit at his wife’s insistence. He told me he’s “still around 7.” So, he probably lost no more than about 1/4” - if that. And he quit altogether.

From what I gather, Bib has quit hanging because he didn’t want anymore length, and his gains have been permanent. On Tom Hubbard’s site, he’s also claimed that his gains were permanent.

So, I wouldn’t worry about that.

I having a feeling that hanging gains are 100% yours, but with jelqing and such you will get a lot of temporary gains due to swelling and may lose some. It goes to reason that when you stretch something out it doesn’t return to it’s original size.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I having a feeling that hanging gains are 100% yours, but with jelqing and such you will get a lot of temporary gains due to swelling and may lose some. It goes to reason that when you stretch something out it doesn’t return to it’s original size.


You may get some temporary swelling, but there is still fairly permanent growth from jelqing & stretching. Just like doing BB Curls in a gym will pump your arms up bigger than normal, and they’ll shrink again - but over time, you experience actual growth, not just “pump.”

When I cut out my girth work (about 95% of it), I did lose about 0.2” of EG - but I realize that some of that may not have been cemented, because I cut out the girth work rather abruptly. However, after several months of this, I’m still holding steady at 6+ girth midshaft (about 6.5+ at base). I do virtually no jelqing (just some moderate restorative jelqing after a length session - maybe 20-25 dry jelqs). This was down from 700-800 per day, very strong jelqs, plus some “holds” at the base.

When I do go over 8.5” EL - and cement it, I will resume girth work - even more vigorously before. This time, I’ll do a lot of pan rolls, downward pressing stuff (against a hard surface) to increase width, as I have a lot of girth depth already.

I figure that I lost about 70% of my gains from 15 years ago so I am not surprised to hear that people can lose gains for inactivity but you have to remember that I did absolutely NO PE what so ever for that length of time! (Unless you consider masturbation and sex a form of PE) My guess is that the natural aging processes and general atrophy that occurs all over the body must be considered and factored in. Since March of 2003 I have re-gained about 50% of those lost gains and so it appears as if I only lost about 35% of those original gains so the lesson for me was to realize that next time around— you have to do a little maintenance on a weekly basis to retain what you worked so hard to achieve. I can imagine that If Jack La Lanne (who in his late 80’s today) didn’t continue his regime of exercises for a period of 15 years or even just a few years—he would lose a good portion of his significant build—so why should PE be any different?

Quote from the Jack La Lanne website:

Jack La Lanne, often called the Godfather of Fitness, is a mover, shaker, and motivator. Jack is a pioneer who opened the first modern health spa in the United States in 1936, and in 1951, brought exercise to TV. Although in his late 80s, Jack looks 50. He and his wife Elaine speak all over the world, inspiring people to help themselves to a better life, physically, mentally, and morally…


If you knew you could not fail...what would you attempt to do? Female Foot Fetish Current Stats: 5/4/10 8.5BPx6.0, 7.5NBP Achieved Goal and have been on maintenance program since

2006.

I am sorry to hear about the lost of i know any gain is a proof of dedication and effort, so losing 50% surely means something.

But i think there should be another way to handle this matter, you can try jelq only halfway toward the glans, so you would still be engorging blood to the frontal part of your penile tissues which either helps growth also increase blood circulation thus getting your frontal tissue more pliable to pressure.

Besides, i assume you can still perform Kegel perfectly, as said, lenght without rock hard wood means nothing. And well, maybe you can still perform some other alternative exercise aside from vigorous jelqing and stretch.

I say maybe you should just consult your physician and tell him truthfully of your problem to get it fixed before restarting your PE program.

Take a good care it and you’ll know why it’s called Mr.Happy
Frnkmx

Whats up with Japp, has he not seen a doctor? Not once in his post does he relay what his problem is other than a “red spot”. How long is he going to sit on this problem before he gets off his but and sees a doctor? I would think just riding out the problem and waiting for it to go away on its own is not the approach I would make.

-Mugwomp

Mugwomp

Japp is ok now and posts on the forum and does PE again maybe he will see this thread and post on it.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

I suspect it might have something to do with the loss of DHEA in the body as it ages. Testosterone and DHEA production really begin to taper off over 40 or 45. They are at their highest levels in teenage boys when growth is occuring by leaps and bounds. Now regarding LaLane. If he looks 50 than I look 15. JelkyWad, p.s. and if some of those pics under fatcockla on the pics site are not altered than I had better get to work and boot up PhotoShop. Note especially the 3rd pic down. peace, JWH

Originally Posted by jelkywadholmes
Now regarding LaLane. If he looks 50 than I look 15. JelkyWad, p.s. and if some of those pics under fatcockla on the pics site are not altered than I had better get to work and boot up PhotoShop. Note especially the 3rd pic down. peace, JWH

Are you saying some of us are just fantasizing?


Starting: 5 BPEL x 4.5 EG on 4/19/03

Latest: 6 BPEL x 5 EG on 2/17/04

Goal: 7 BPEL x 6 EG

Jelkywadholmes,you’re full of it! Anyone can view my webcam.Why don’t you start your anti-fatcocka thread instead of just randomly spewing your insults and accusations around this site.Focus your venom.

Still can’t believe all the insults you packed into the now deleted paragraph you posted on my starting pictures thread,lol,amazing.Really don’t know what your purpose is.And I still don’t understand how you can accuse me of having surgery(which you have had,and I haven’t),and at the same time,saying my pictures are fake.Which is it?

Originally Posted by jelqking
Hate to say this but the only thing thats permanent is a tattoo,

Tattoos fade with age

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