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The Permanence of PE Gains


I think there might be something to the correlation between rate of gains and rate of “loss.” I’m a hard gainer and I took a year and a half off and didn’t lose anything more than erection strength.

Start: (Aug 2001): 6 1/2 bpel x 4 7/8 mseg

Current: (6/24/14): 7 3/4 bpel (7 nbp) x 5 5/8 mseg. BEG 6 1/4. BPFSL 8 1/8.

Goals: First: 7 1/2 bpel x 5 1/2 mseg ACHIEVED! Current Goal: 7 nbp x 5 3/4 mseg (almost there!)

ED caused me to lose length but I am on a comeback.

You’ll never reach a level you’ve set for yourself and be content with it,
There’s always room for improvement.

Thats my philosophy on life

I lost 1/2 an inch from taking lisinopril, Could it be a medication making you shrink.


I’m more interested in how you managed to hang for 5 or 6 hours a day? Yes I read that you had the time, but how in the hell did you do it physically? Anyone? after 5 or 6 hrs I would think that my dick would feel like I either ripped it off or just didn’t have one anymore. Also, did you suffer any ED as a result your length of hang time? I’m asking because about 1 hour max is all I can take in one session. I could do multiple sessions in one day though the last thing my dick wants to do after a good hanging is get hard enough to use. Takes a little time to recover.

It would be interesting to hear from other fast gainers who laid off for a while. During the summer I stopped for most of two months and definitely lost some—at least an inch, maybe a bit more. When I started up again in October, I quickly gained it back and added some.

But I am strictly a jelquer and stretcher. Even if I cut back a little now, after 16 months, I seem to lose some in BPEL, not in my flaccid gains—they seem much more “cemented.”

So I guess I’ll continue a pretty rigourous dry jelq/stretch combo (and an occasional wet jelq session) for the foreseeable future—a minimum of a half hour a day—some days a couple of hours. Not a bad prospective, not bad at all. It keeps the blood and testesterone flowing and my woodies solid. My dick is hot as hell now after a strenuous workout—feels great!! And it looks great!!


"It's not the getting there but the going that's gotta be good." Varg


Cberger, how do you know the lisinopril caused the loss, I’ve been on it for years and never noticed it, does anyone else know anything about this side effect?

I noticed a slight loss in erect length and also a loss in nocturnal erections when I stopped for about 5 months. Now that I started back again, the gains have returned as well as the nocturnal erections. Still at same size of 7.5 x 6.5 but I would like to get to 8. I wonder if there is a max size to get to.

At the height of my PE regime, I was 8.7” x 5.5”. I got injured then stopped for a year and went down to 7.7” x 5”.

No, PE is not permanent.


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