The Pap needs your P.E advice. Over training?

My p.e journey started feb 1st 2006. Started with 3 months of the newbie routine, however, I’m plagued throughout my life with the assumption the more time I put into something automatically the better it turns out. Within the first month I was doing 40-50 mins of jelqing, with about 10 mins of stretching 5 times a week. I constantly measured and about 2 1/2 months in I saw absolutely no girth gains.

So I begin the “girth savior” of exercises clamping, almost immediately I was doing 3 sets of 15mins 5 times a week, less then a month of clamping I was at 4 sets of 15 mins 5 times a week. About 2 weeks ago (around 3-4 months of clamping) I realised I am definitely over training (hopefully the reason for the lack of gains), I’m down to clamping 4 sets of 10 mins, and power jelqing for 5 mins in between each set, 5 times a week. However, my dick still looks like shit, my erections are questionable, I’m ultra sensitive during sex, and I don’t get morning wood(i never really did but during the newbie routine I started to). I figure I might still be over training so what do you suggest?

-keep with it, it’s only been two weeks
-This routine with more break days
-Less clamping more power jelqing
-everyday with less of both
-ditch clamping it’s over rated

Just for your info I use a home-made power jelq because I find jelqing with my hands rather upsetting, don’t really even know why other then my hands get tired.

Starting: (2/1/06) (nbpel=7.8) (bpel=8.15) (eg=5 3/16)
5/11/06: (nbpel=8) (bpel=8 6/16) (eg=5 5/16)
6 month goal (8/1/06): nbpel=8.25 e.g=(5 9/16)

Just be happy with what you got, most people here are actually striving for that. Greed is one of the seven deadly sins you know — (although so is envy, so I guess I can’t say that on these forums).

Also, 10-15 minute jelqing with 3-5 minute stretches, 6 out of 7 days of the week is just fine for the first 2-3 months, then you can add all the toys. Quite frankly, the more complicated you make it, the less likely you will see gains due to over-stressing it.

The most legendary gainer ever did nothing but Wet Jelq’s with manual stretches. He began at 15/5, and now does 30/15 twice a day (or last he was doing it). Some crazy gains of over 3 inches in a number of years.

Not really trying to be greedy, just plan to do this for several years. I was going to do my current routine for a long while without measuring. However, I’ve learned from bodybuilding that spending time overtraining is worthless. I want to make sure I’m not repeating my mistakes instead of a year down the road.

Read the article on the front page about PI’s. They are real common sense principles about how your doing.

I would say that whenever your erection quality is bad and you have the hypersensitivity problem, it is time for a break until you feel normal again. Then I would guess that the same routine with more break days might work better for you.

I would say less clamping,more jelqing.It sounds to me like you are way over training.As Mravg stated,poor erection quality is a good indication that your training too hard.Avocet 8 always says that you should be able to get an erection easily at the end of your routine,and I think that is sound advice,it is also the way I gauge how I’m doing.As to the hyper-sensitivity issue,I wish I could help.But I can screw for hours if I can keep my erection.My penis is so de-sensitised that I rarely am able to climax while having sex.It’s very frustrating,so be careful what you wish for.

Cajual’s post is very ineresting, even if it is 3 years old.

2 days on 1 day off to heal might be a good strategy for you to try.