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Wad,

I don’t see the big deal. If someone doesn’t feel like they need to “prove” their gains, so what. If someone wants to post there pic, great. I think Lil’s pic/progess post was one of the most inspirational posts I’ve ever seen on a PE forum and it was great for the PE community as a whole. I know it sure got me motivated. But to discredit a guy who has done nothing but prove himself in every facet and who also isn’t here to defend himself isn’t right Wad.


"Building a weapon of mass destruction" Started: 5.81" x 3.88" Now: 8.5" x 5.0" Goal: 9" x 6"

I can understand a member not posting pics, just because I wouldnt ever do it in real life. Sometimes its just a bit much for some people, completely understandable. So long as they dont then go onto boast about stats which no one has ever seen I cant see a problem, no ones got a right to demand proof.

Its your own judgement call, nothing is ever really certain in life anyway.

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nothing is ever really certain in life anyway

Death and taxes, unless you live in Florida, then its really just death thats certain.

deep,
As far as the politics go, yes I can understand that. But for software? I can’t imagine that any individual or company would refuse to do business with you - providing you could meet their software needs - because somebody in their accounting department said, “No, forget it. He once posted a dick pic on the internet.” That is so irrelevant.

But we can argue round and round, and not get anywhere, so I’ll drop it.

But I will say this, regarding your gains, no doubt some of it was newbie gains - and you don’t get those again. Like I said, it does not logically follow that you can equal the gains you’ve made, even those within your first year. There necessarily comes a point of diminishing returns - or gains would be limitless, in theory. We’d have guys here posting pics of 18- and 25-inch cocks (and yes, some guys are nuts enough to want a 3rd leg).

But anyway, great gains you’ve made.

It is not irrelevant. Say I was to eventually take my company public. Say I eventually decide to run for public office. Do you understand. I’m not talking on a small scale Wad. You don’t get it. In ten years, I will be in a different scale of business. Some of my projects already get published and I’m becoming more of a namestake in my local area. I’m not talking about selling some spyware. I do business with reputable companies. Whether is be post my penis online or do anything else remotely similar that puts my reputation at risk. I can’t afford to do it because the circles I deal with are small. My real estate company does very large deals and there are only a certain number of company that fund my type of deals. Repuation is everything. Like I said, you completely wouldn’t understand as I would only assume that the type of life you lead is completely different from mine. It’s just not worth it to prove my gains.

Also, I know of diminishing returns. I’m also a pretty consistent bodybuilder as you’ve referenced weightlifting a couple of times. My PE gains were all pretty much lig gains until i tested some tunica exercises. I have a huge amount of untapped lig gains. I’ve been involved in this PE game a while Wad and I know my body fairly well.

I’m not going to waste any more time debating this picture issue with you. If you were in my position, you wouldn’t do anything that could come back to haunt you later. But you aren’t and you clearly don’t understand and I definately won’t try to convince you. I just want to keep my dick to myself and whatever young lady has the pleasure of seeing it personally. Take care wad.


"Building a weapon of mass destruction" Started: 5.81" x 3.88" Now: 8.5" x 5.0" Goal: 9" x 6"


Last edited by goingdeeper : 12-23-2004 at .

deep,
I’m not going to allow your heavily patronizing tone to offend me. I understand - you’re a very, very important person. And I’m not. And you’re right, any scandal can ruin you from becoming King of the Earth. Look at all of our political leaders - JFK, Bill Clinton, etc. They were squeaky clean, without a trace of scandal. That’s how they made it so far.

So, in order to keep your bid for the White House secure, keep your dick pics off the internet. :)

And, btw, update your stats already. That takes far less time than it does for you to point out the vast differences in our lives.

Originally Posted by wadzilla

Please! Somebody explain that to me. We’re not talking about raping children or starving babies - or even pornography. Just a damn dick pic.

We’re not? I’m outta here.

Even if one does not venture into the field of politics that doesn’t mean that someone out there won’t want to blackmail him. If I was looking for a software vendor and had to chose from two both equal and one was run by a guy that had been involved in a “PE picture scandal” I would probably choose the non PE scandal company, even if it had been disproved that the guy was involved. I think it’s better to be overly cautious than not cautious enough.

I didn’t say anything patronizing. You assume.It’s funny how you always say I’m patronizing you, but read your posts..in every one you are being sarcastic, patronizing, etc. I said simply..i don’t want to take the chance of posting my pics on the web. I simply said that you don’t do the things that I do so you wouldn’t understand my concern with posting pics. Politics are ripe with scandal. That’s obvious Wad. We’ve had this discussion before. We are different people and do things differently. I never said posting pics is wrong or anything. But for me, personally I would rather not take the risk of doing thing that can’t benefit for the sake of proving something to someone i don’t even know.

But I learned at an early age to limit unnecessary actions that absolutely couldn’t benifit me and only hurt me. I can’t think of any way it would benefit me to post my dick on the internet. But I couldn’t think of many reasons I could regret it. It’s very simple to me Wad. If you don’t understand, fine.


"Building a weapon of mass destruction" Started: 5.81" x 3.88" Now: 8.5" x 5.0" Goal: 9" x 6"

stubby,
I guess a lot depends on outlook. Nobody can blackmail me because I don’t give a shit. It has nothing to do with money, but I suppose it depends on whether you grovel before other people’s opinions of yourself. Like I said, if you produce efficient, bug-free code, that does a lot and is competitively priced, I do not believe that you’d lose a deal over a stupid dick pic on the Internet (it’s not even porn, but a penis photo on a penis enlargement site).

If you want to take it down that avenue, you’re already taking a risk coming here. IPs are logged, so are ISPs, so it’s very possible to trace it back to you. So, would deep care if his software customers find out that his internet interests include visiting a dick enlargement site since Dec. 2001??

Life is a risk, and somebody can always find something untoward in our past. A bounced check, maybe a drunken episode in public, a business deal in which the other party felt cheated, etc. Again, I don’t give a shit. But that’s just me, and maybe some folks are to beholden to public opinion to ever understand that. But in some ways, the notoriety of posting a (big) dick pic could even attract attention.

We’re heading into 2005. That puritanical shit is laughable. Nobody cares anymore. This isn’t the 1930’s. A window washer I once knew used to tell me that he’d occasionally see men in suits banging their secretaries on a desk - up on the 40th floor. The only scandal anymore is when there isn't a scandal.

It doesn’t matter about caring what people think. If that were the case I would post my pick to prove something to you. You don’t get it. It’s not about people’s opinions..its about doing something that doesn’t serve my life at all. I’ve actually told people that I PE. I don’t care about people knowing. I don’t want my dick to be anywhere but in my pants or in some coochie…or a woman’s mouth..or between her tits..u get the idea. My dick doesn’t need to be in the modeling business.

It hasn’t nothing to do with the pic. It comes down to judgement. A banker at East West Bank..a bank that i deal with would never give me money if I did something like post a pic of my dick in the internet. It shows a lack of sound judgement. That is what they would see. Now that is important. I don’t do things that negatively affect my ability to progress. It is not even about posting a dick pic. It is about taking unnecessary risks. That is the point. The dick pic isn’t consistent with the rest of my life..don’t do unnecessary shit that leads to no gain. I have nothing to gain by posting a pic. If you don’t get it Wad, you just do get it. Visiting a site is much different that posting a pic. Have you seen the things that people do to pics on the web. First it is a pic..then they link it to a face..then they make a personal add..then they post your full nude on a gay porn site. I’ve seen the crazy things that people do with your information or photos online. I choose to avoid that. Those types of things don’t go away. Just like i’m very careful about who sees my social security number or who i purchase from online. I’ve know people who have had their identities stolen and it takes years to clean up the mess. I try my best to avoid potential messes.

I don’t need you to tell me about risk. I’m a businessman. Everyday I take some type of “calculated” risk. The point is to reduce the amount of risks and especially aviod do completely unnecessary things. For me, posting my dick pic on the internet is completely unnecessary.

This is the last time I will address you Wad.


"Building a weapon of mass destruction" Started: 5.81" x 3.88" Now: 8.5" x 5.0" Goal: 9" x 6"


Last edited by goingdeeper : 12-23-2004 at .

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If I wanted to, I could find out anything about you in 24 hours.

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Have you seen the things that people do to pics on the web. First it is a pic..then they link it to a face..then they make a personal add..then they post your full nude on a gay porn site.

Sort of off-topic, but could a tech mod (or whoever) please clarify exactly what level of anonymity we have when posting here?? Assuming there’s no one pouring lots of time, money, and resources into investigating me specifically, I don’t have much to worry about as long as I never post a photo of my face or reveal too many personal details, right? (For example, are the only people who can see my IP address tech mods and Thunder, or could someone else find it?) I’m a little concerned now and don’t know whether I should be… Thanks for any help.

Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
Sort of off-topic, but could a tech mod (or whoever) please clarify exactly what level of anonymity we have when posting here?? Assuming there’s no one pouring lots of time, money, and resources into investigating me specifically, I don’t have much to worry about as long as I never post a photo of my face or reveal too many personal details, right? (For example, are the only people who can see my IP address tech mods and Thunder, or could someone else find it?) I’m a little concerned now and don’t know whether I should be… Thanks for any help.


Para,
I didn’t mean to scare anybody with what I said, but it’s the truth. We’ve already compromised our privacy by visiting this place (not that I care). Any time we go on the net, we send out info - that’s unavoidable. And this place isn’t a “secure” site, like an ecommerce checkout, for example, using SSL and 128-bit encryption. And a hacker doesn’t have to “pour lots of time, money, and resources” to find that info. Even just a newbie running some port-scanning software can catch IPs.

Hell, just check out this site: http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ (and there are other such sites that will tell you more info).
It will tell you your IP, your operating system, your browser, ISP, DNS, all that shit - and that’s legal. It’s just “out there.” Once anybody has an IP and your ISP, they can trace it back to your name, address, and phone number. And that isn’t high-tech FBI/CIA shit either, it’s pretty basic.

My point to deep was that somebody so worried about losing clients - or a bid for the White House - has already stamped himself as a 3-year veteran of a penis enlargement forum, as well as a moderator.

There’s no privacy today. Virtually none. Even experienced hackers who bounce around the world via annonymous servers, before delivering their viral payload, still get busted. When that dude in the Philippines nutted all over the world, they busted his ass within hours - and he was damn good. But any hacker can hang out here and catch IPs all day long if he wanted to.

>>”This is the last time I will address you Wad.”
Wow, did you really mean that? Or was that just in this particular thread?

I realize that web sites themselves can track a good deal of info about those who visit them (e.g., whatismyipaddress.com) — I’ve built a site myself and have gathered such info — but what does it mean for a newbie to “run port-scanning software” to “catch IPs”? You mean he could specifically target the TP server and see the IPs of incoming traffic? That wouldn’t worry me too much, since there are thousands of members here and hundreds who visit regularly.

To focus my concern a bit more, I’m curious how much an ordinary Hacker Joe on the internet could find out about a specific member — could he simply decide “I’m curious who Wadzilla is” and specifically identify your IP address in an efficient manner? And after that, how is it so easy to track an IP to your name and address? I figured that ISPs wouldn’t readily share their customers’ IPs unless law enforcement were involved.

Thanks for any further WWW education! This is important stuff to be aware of. I’ll be back in about 5 days to learn more… Time for vacation!


Last edited by Para-Goomba : 12-23-2004 at .

Do a google search on your user name you leave a trail where ever you post. My mistake I used my dino email for other things I’m sure some people have figured out that I’m dino. I’m very open on the this site and share a lot of personal shit. I know for a fact that people found about this place at an old job they never said anything and are most likely members. When I first started maybe after six months I did post pictures on the old peforum showing that I had a about a half inch gain I had a link to a yahoo briefcase but I remember somebody that seemed like a kid thanking me for the pictures and it made me very uncomfortable so I took them down. I may someday post a set like LIL2big did with before and after pictures whenever I hit my goal or decide enough is enough. The only problem is my before and during pictures are on an old zip disk and I don’t have a zip drive anymore but I should be able to dig one up if I decide to do it. I have also sent people I consider trusted friends my picture from time to time. I have been at this for over 4 years and have made some good gains but rather slowly and know it’s real and since I have never have tried to sell anybody anything except that time with Dino’s magic snake oil and their was that time with the pixie powder I have never felt the need to have to prove myself. As far as Bigger”bib” except for his recent choice of forums that will try to sell anything to make a buck to post on Bigger has always been a quality guy. And I never bought a Bib hanger because of his size I bought it because it was a great product and other people were having great success with it. Also I do believe knowing Bigger for as long as I have that his 4 inch gains are possible do to hanging for up to and over 6 hours a day with the amount of weight that he did. I do believe you can make huge gains from hanging long hours and I do mean long hours.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

I just did a search on google on dino9x7……..shit!


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

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