Would Like To Be Proven Wrong

I have used the search bar and scoured this website long enough to where I feel I can legitimately ask whether any video measurements exist ? Some of the measurement pics on here are impressive like Barrets but we live in the day of Photo shop and some pics are blatantly measured incorrectly (like the before is measured on the top and the after is measured on the side). Moreover someone could easily take pictures at the increment stages of getting a boner and portray it as progress. Therefore I think all the skeptics, such as myself, could potentially be reassured if someone was able to link a video with before and after measurements. This would settle the doubt once and for all. If no such video measurement exists I implore someone to make one as I will make one myself at the end of the year. I really hope though that there is a video measurement already. Call it paranoia but I suspect that there are some members on here with a motive for profit or a lucid ego. Those individuals should be disgusted with themselves because they are exploiting the mental health of those with size issues. It is especially cruel to guys who are below average because it is a false hope that quite literally will effect the sanity and safety of that individual. Course those mal-intentioned members could be Ayn Rand fuck the world types, but if one of those types is reading this you are sad individual whose claim to success is peddling snake oil. One can’t deny that while this site does not advertise for profit, it’s content nonetheless indirectly supports the penis enlargement industry. A video measurement would be the holy grail of integrity for this site. Sorry for the hostility, but I’m a little frustrated given that the course of my life is resting on whether PE is BS or not. Thanks for your time and consideration !

The way you’ve presented this thread you certainly look like a douche bag.

However, I’ll still bother a response. WHO has anything to gain from this website? They do a very good job at preventing marketing of personal products here, and even have cheap build your own with generic materials from Wal-Mart products (maybe Wal-Mart is secretly marketing here). Sure, there are REVIEWS of products which are usually commercial products. You think the owner of every penis pump, extender, and hangar is on this site daily? That would be the most pathetic marketing plan I’ve ever seen and that’s with a degree IN marketing.

It’s cool to be skeptic, I was VERY MUCH SO TOO, and proclaimed it in my first post which I later rescinded after seeing that it isn’t a fallacy. HOWEVER, the difference between you and I is that I did not come on here to LEARN and ask for advice while being a dickhead. I had actually ALREADY chosen, a good, doctor for Phallosplasty Surgery I was so determined to gain. However, before my consultation I was informed to buy a hangar, which for your sake I wont mention the name, and to try wearing it “x” amount of weeks to make sure I’d be comfortable wearing it post operation. Upon finding out that I was also a US Veteran as the doctor was, he told me, an MD who regularly performs PE Surgery that if I wanted length gains the hangar would do it without the surgery. The surgery would just expedite the gains. Then I stumbled on to Thunders and figured there is no way all these people are lying and the doctor who I was gonna pay told me i could do it without the surgery too. The doc told me come back when I reached my length gain and he’d add the girth. However, through the course of PE and Thunders I then realized you can get girth with PE too. Now I’m surgery free and heading towards my ultimate goal.. It’s slower doing it naturally, but if you put in the time and effort it works.

I don’t see you making any gains until you get the negativity out from around you. PE works, but it’s just like going to the regular gym. If you go once a week walk on a treadmill for 15 minutes then go gorge yourself full of skittles and sausage you’re not going to lose weight. Likewise if you simply tug your cock with a negative mentality twice a week for 5 minutes it’s probably NOT going to work either.

If “the course of your life” is hanging on whether PE is BS or not then buddy you need to step back and assess your life because you’ve got issues other than penis size.

Stop looking for a Holy Grail if you can’t accept what’s already been done. Until reading this post I’d have never even thought of a video. Something concocted in the mind of a skeptic.

Start with getting your mind right. Then read and start with the newbie routine. Most people will experience positive PI within a few weeks with that, and depending on your health some newbie gains from better EQ.

Yours Truly,
WRATH

It’s great to be skeptical in life and growing up where and how I grew up my guard is always up. With that said there aren’t many man here with anything to gain from lying, better yet investing the time to fake pics. If this was say, MOS where every mutha F’n thing is for sale I’d have to agree with you, BUT not here. No one has ever tried selling me anything on TP nor does TP allow it. So be skeptical that’s cool but what’s the point in guys faking dick pics here? Honestly?

Hey man. Firstly I’d just like to say, there are, in my estimate, caring and honest members found here. Everyone? No. That’s too much given the nature of the internet.

I’m saying that to say that I’ve had discussions with people who I’m confident gave to horse in the race. Just ordinary guys with struggles. Size insecurities, porn addictions, relationship problems…

Just my personal opinion, but this site, out of all the others, seems to hold itself to a higher standard. Just look around. There’s no advertising. There’s no sales links even allowed really. It runs off donations.

I can tell you I don’t get the vibe that people are making money, at least I don’t see how.

All that said, the tone if your post suggests to me that, at the very least, you are among sympathizers. As a dude with a bottom of the normal range girth (I mean no disrespect saying this as I know there are much smaller), I’ve always had issues. The first girl I had sex with broke up with me because she wasn’t satisfied sexually (her words). Ultimately, if you decide to post here, I think you should consider what I think most guys here with bigger dicks than I’ll ever have will tell you…that if you’re looking for a bigger dick to solve all your problems, you’re looking in the wrong place.

Now I don’t know your circumstances. You may have issues that I can’t begin to understand. I’d like to offer an ear and encouragement though.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking. You’re expecting someone to have video of them measuring before starting PE and then shoot video of them measuring currently? And again, maybe I’m misunderstanding but what makes you think anyone on here has video of them measuring pre PE?

Anyway, it seems that you’re looking for a reason not to believe in it. There are many people on here willing to share knowledge with no hidden agenda.

I’m sure I’ll regret this but here’s a link to my 18 month comparison photo: 18 Month Comparison Pic

I tried to completely emulate the first pic I took and posted on Thunder’s. (That’s the reason I used a measuring tape and not a hard ruler for the comparison pic). I only use my hard ruler for official measurements these days.

Look forward to seeing your response.

Btw…why is the course of your life resting on if PE is real or works? That’s some crazy talk brother. This for me has become a way of life, a way to better myself for myself and myself only. But my life doesn’t depend on the results I get doing PE. Hell I’ve never been told I’m small or even average but always above, which brings me back to doing this for MYSELF. I wish you the absolute best in what ever you choose to do in PE and in life. There is only way to find out if it’s bullshit or not….take a before video and an after video of yours if you do choose PE and compare for yourself. I personally have made some home movies without a ruler for obvious reasons. And my dick looks completely different but again no ruler so no proof for the skeptic and I would not share those personal videos for proof of my change in size.

No one here owes you anything or has anything to prove to you.

How about you do the newbie routine and tell us your findings.

Okay, let’s just be real here.

This site is not only not for profit, run by donations…we have collectively resisted any sort of sponsorship from any manufactuer. That means Bathmate and the rest don’t have anything to gain from us here. And any affiliates of those sites come under heavy scrutiny, and links are removed when they’re plugging products. Period.

Additionally, other websites have users that sell their products with no regulation at all. A premier site in the PE community is run by a gentleman who has a PE coaching crew, who are quite the costly service. There is not a single coach advertising here. There is nothing but free information and guys sharing their stories.

Secondly, as someone with knowledge of the inner workings of this site…members cannot upload videos. Second period.

Administrators can and this is how the “Penis Enlargement Vidoes” forum came to be and how we have instructional videos on how the exercises are done.

As far as your negativity? Your penis size is important to you. The burden is not on us to persuade you to join us on our individual crusades to get bigger and better. As the curious party here, it is up to you to decide if we are all legitimate or not. Personally, thousands of posts and not a single sale link to be found…I’d say reading is in order.

However, it is up to you. I am sure Wrath can provide you the name of the surgeon he was going to use. If that is a route you wish to take. I wish you the best but just like we are not for profit, we have nothing to gain by jumping through hoops to prove ourselves either.

You make the call. No one else here can for you.

So you want to see videos of dudes before and after PE going from flaccid to erect with a tape measure in the background….

You really have to convince yourself that it works. And that is your problem, not anyone here.

Do the research like everyone else, think it through in your head. If you come to the conclusion that it is BS, that is your decision. If you decide it’s legit, then the next step is to get gains to remove any doubt.

Up to you, no one else has the need to convince you. This may sound selfish, but that is true for everyone here.

A list of things I have bought for PE

1. Space heater
2. IR heat lamp from Beurer
3. Heat Pad from walgreens
4. Suave shea butter lotion
5. Ruler
6. Tailors Tape.

Thats about all I need to continue making (and measuring) gains from my point of view.

PE work, Its amazing, but like anything worthwhile: it takes a long time! Temper your desires though. You wont ever have a 12” dick. think in terms of gaining 0.5 - 1” in a year or two…

I can’t say that every person who has posted about getting huge gains is telling the truth. But PE definitely works

It just takes an absolutely long time to get significant gains

It works.

Look if there is a difference in the pubic hairs of the pics. I have some before and after pics that I haven’t uploaded, but the pubic hair length/trim pattern is different in them because well, hair grows over time.

The chances of someone video taping themselves measuring pre-PE (for the sake of satisfying skeptical critics of PE) are pretty slim. Did you video tape yourself measuring pre-PE?

I posted a gif of my measured BPFSL pre-PE the last year and will make a new one soon since I promised to update every 2cm. Considering my current pace I should confirm +2cm with the next two months. The first gif was made after the very 1st PE session to make sure I was fully warmed up and stretched.

There are over 2 million individual posts on this forum. The sheer volume of posts and posters is proof that this place is not a scam or run for profit business.