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Wanting to clear up some things

Hi all! I’m a new member (as of a month ago).. Which I hope I already posted in the virginity thread!

I just wanted to say that this site has been quite helpful! But I do have a few questions about some things that I basically couldn’t find a straight answer to (or forgot the exact location and can’t find it again)..

Hope you guys don’t mind my asking them! :)

I’m currently (and still) using the Newbie Routine and I plan on milking it out for every bit of what it’s worth as suggested by someone in another thread which is probably about six months, if I remember correctly. (Warm ups, Jelq, Stretching, Warm ups) with no overtraining so far. I adapt to it according to how it feels (pains, aches, etc).

I couldn’t find the thread about red dots, the dots that are about the same size of a pin’s head and I get quite a few of them, usually concentrated in one area. I.e. My head has a little group of red pin sized dots, and the other spot is about midshaft, but other than that, the rest of it’s fine.

When I jelq, I use varying pressures to see what works best, and at all of the pressure types that I’ve tried it at, I still get a few dots here and there which recedes within the first 24 hours. I can’t remember if it was fine or if I should take extra caution when that happens? I do recall lightening the pressure of the jelqs but if I go any lighter, my penis will go completely flaccid.

Also, I read somewhere that it’s better to stretch without using the glans as an “anchor point” — and to stretch by getting a grip about an inch below the glans. I assume this is to prevent damage, of course. But the problem for me in this case is getting a grip where I can stretch without sliding up to the glans. Anyone who had this happen to them - what did you guys do or figure out?

Jelqs - I read in some threads where members commented on jelqing a member’s gains to “cement it”. How does jelqing cement one’s gains?
And if I jelqed (I alternate between wet and dry jelqing depending on the circumstances when I do it) without stretching for a period of time — it would cause a baseball bat effect (I’m a torpedo fyi - start with a thinner top part, and a fatter bottom part) and stretching is recommended in conjunction with jelqing. I assume that this is to “even” out the shaft?

Also I seem to be interested in trying clamping in a couple of weeks but would I still need to jelq it to cement my gains from that or would clamping alone be sufficient since it affects the same areas that jelqing does, but over more of the penis’ length by “destroying” the CC tissues and rebuilding it?

Any suggestions, answers, etc is most welcome!


Start: 7.5" BPEL 4.75 EG.

Goal: 8" BPEL, 5.5 EG permanent. (or 8.5 x 6)

Start Date: Feb 10th 2010

Originally Posted by bbear87

Also, I read somewhere that it’s better to stretch without using the glans as an “anchor point” — and to stretch by getting a grip about an inch below the glans. I assume this is to prevent damage, of course. But the problem for me in this case is getting a grip where I can stretch without sliding up to the glans. Anyone who had this happen to them - what did you guys do or figure out?

This is a common problem for uncut guys. Honestly, there is no way for us to get a grip without sliding up to the glans.

If you are circumcised, just use baby powder, or toilet paper for a good grip.


Starting BPEL: 6.9" (Dec.1st, 2008)

Current BPEL: 8.11" NBPEL: 7.63" BPFSL: 9.09"

Current MEG : 5.6"

Originally Posted by cervixhunter

This is a common problem for uncut guys. Honestly, there is no way for us to get a grip without sliding up to the glans.

If you are circumcised, just use baby powder, or toilet paper for a good grip.

This. Toilet paper or some kind of powder. I am cut so I can’t really relate. Also cementing gains means that once you reach your target length and girth, some of that will be permanent and some of it will not. To make all of it permanent, you will need to do what you were doing at a reduced intensity for about a month. After that, what you have gained will be yours to keep. I for example do 10 min of stretching followed by 600 jelqs 5 days a week. Once I reach my target, I will cut it back to 5 min of stretching and 300 jelqs 3 days a week for a month to make the gains permanent. I don’t know what clamping is so I can’t help you there.

Originally Posted by quickbeam1213
I for example do 10 min of stretching followed by 600 jelqs 5 days a week.

Damn 600 jelqs is a shit ton, how long does that take you? Are you worried about overtraining?

Originally Posted by Soja

Damn 600 jelqs is a shit ton, how long does that take you? Are you worried about overtraining?

Nah. I had exercised for a very long time before I settled on 600. I will say this, if anyone knows penis enlargment, it would be the founder of https://www.penilefitness.com Brandon Reece and 600 is in the neighborhood of what he does. Depending on how often I have to stop to make my penis erect again it takes me anywhere from 60 min to 1 hr 45 min. But that is time well spent.

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

OK, that’s two links to the program that you got suckered into buying, no more please, unless you want to be accused of spamming.

Spamming? How?

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

By continuing to post links to Reece’s website.

Oh. I’m not trying to spam believe me. I simply felt it was pertinent to mention it at some points. I will not make any further mention of it. To tell the truth, I’m a bit pissed I didn’t find this site first.

Originally Posted by bbear87

Also, I read somewhere that it’s better to stretch without using the glans as an “anchor point” — and to stretch by getting a grip about an inch below the glans. I assume this is to prevent damage, of course. But the problem for me in this case is getting a grip where I can stretch without sliding up to the glans. Anyone who had this happen to them - what did you guys do or figure out?

I had the same problem. I assumed that I pushed the glans way too much when I started seeing little rough spots on the head of my penis the day after my stretching (see penile papules) . So I got myself a rubber glove (the ones you use to wash dishes) and stretched with that. Definitely a lot better.


Dec '09 : NBPEL: 6'' x EG: 5.1'' x FL: 2" -----> Aug '10 : NBPEL: 6.3'' x EG: 5.6'' x FL: 2"

Yeah, don't worry. It did not take me 8 months to get these gains. I was more off than on when it came to PE :O

Goal: EL: 7.25" x EG: 6.2" x FL: 4"

Wow thanks guys that answers half my questions. Very helpful. I’ll have to try toilet paper, baby powder, and rubber gloves. I have them all at my disposal! :-D.. But what about red spots the size of a pinhead, etc?


Start: 7.5" BPEL 4.75 EG.

Goal: 8" BPEL, 5.5 EG permanent. (or 8.5 x 6)

Start Date: Feb 10th 2010

Originally Posted by bbear87

Wow thanks guys that answers half my questions. Very helpful. I’ll have to try toilet paper, baby powder, and rubber gloves. I have them all at my disposal! :-D.. But what about red spots the size of a pinhead, etc?

Red spots? Pshaw! Everyone has them when they are first starting out. They are nothing serious and will go away over time. I’ve been PEing for almost a year now and I still get them occasionally. Perfectly normal.

Oh thats a relief then. Thanks.


Start: 7.5" BPEL 4.75 EG.

Goal: 8" BPEL, 5.5 EG permanent. (or 8.5 x 6)

Start Date: Feb 10th 2010

I’ve never had these red dots before from stretching.

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