Losing Faith On Getting Girth

I think you need to talk a bit more about your cock ring experiences in the bedroom. My wife and I of 14 years would have never imagined it would be a thing for us, that would be too freaky before, but after slowly getting into it she says I now have 3 cocks and each one has a place and time.

Cock 1- nothing on, go at it
Cock 2- Tighter cock ring on the shaft
Cock 3- Ring over penis and balls, light cock ring on shaft

I think that the growth you get from pumping or ULI’s needs to enter the bedroom and not just left for PE only appreciation. I believe, with no evidence to this statement, YET! That once your dick gets used to cock rings and your max gains in the sack for longer times, your dick will want grow from that new standard. Right now your dick gets big with Ulis then back to a relaxed bigger EG.

What I am saying is that your ULI gains with cock rings on for your time during SEX will now become your new standard, and the PE you do will want to grow from there.

I could come back here in 1 year and say that is all false but until then… My Wifey is happy and I feel like a stud with a trunk I keep doing PE and we see what happens next.

A few other things that I’ve come across recently the might help:

There is a pretty good reddit for enlargement r/gettinbigger where the mods each have good youtube channels describing methods for length and girth. They promote ‘tunica scraping’ to soften up the tunica for PE, intermittent pumping to increase gains using higher vacuums while reducing edema and some other techniques or variations on techniques.

Also some guys report getting girth gains from fulcrum stretching, extending or hanging, so that might be worth a try.

I can’t say I’ve tried all the techniques on offer from these guys, or have enough mileage with the ones I am using to report success based on them, but I have been getting longer and girthier while incorporating some into my pre-existing regimen. Might be worth checking out.

And I second the cock ring recommendation. I always wear one with the wife and I get pretty significant enlargement above baseline, both length and girth, and the erection hardness is never in doubt. Definitely consider it if you want to add some girth to your session of bedroom time.

Thanks

If you are a hard-gainer in girth and have exhausted most conventional methods (assuming they were performed correctly with the necessary frequency & intensity), then you may want to consider Medical interventions, especially if girth is a major goal of yours. I know that medical procedures are regarded by some here as a "short cut," "cheating," "easy way out," or "needlessly risky," based on comments in the past, but it would be remiss of me not to share with you what I would have hoped someone would have shared me many many years ago.

For those who want to avoid needles and incisions as much as possible, the P-Long Protocol is a good segue into the Medical arena. It involves visiting a P-Long Affiliate (typically a Doctor) who will prescribe you with a medical grade pump, medical grade stretcher, vasodilator supplements, and a monthly PRP injection (which is the only pricking you’ll have to deal with, which isn’t so bad).

For those who want girth and want it now, you have surgical options (namely dermal grafts matrices, avoid any rigid silicone implants!) and non-surgical options (dermal filler injections, avoid silicone oil however!). Some are permanent and others are temporary which will require top-offs periodically (think annually for most) to maintain size. All penis enlargement methods come with risk of complications and/or dissatisfaction, and penis enlargement is an inherently elective endeavor.

There are pros & cons, why to choose permanent -vs- temporary, logistics, and obviously the high costs associated with undergoing a specialized procedure (whereas manual PE exercises are typically inexpensive, with the devices usually being the most expensive investment). If you choose to go this route, be sure it’s through a quality, experienced, and skilled Practitioner who happens to specialize in this area of aesthetic medicine.

The PhalloBoards 3.0 has more information about it, but I felt the need to at least chime in. When I started on Thundersplace, I was so remarkably on the thin side that achieving "average" progress by most standards would still have me miles from my goal. The idea of committing a year, two, or three with no meaningful gains would have been even more demoralizing. Had I started average (or above average), I suppose the let down wouldn’t have been as devastating. But as someone who required maximum erection quality (EQ) to be sure a SNUGGER FIT Condom would stay on, it was no fun thinking that even mustering an inch in circumference (which is a heck of an accomplishment relatively speaking) wouldn’t satisfy me. So in the Summer of 2011 I got a round of injections, with subsequent rounds spanning 5 years after for additional girth + aesthetic revisions, and have been complication free and too thick for a Magnum XL ever since.

On a side note, I was able to obtain a full inch in length through a stretching + wet jelq routine when I was a new Member here well over a decade ago, so I’m still very much a believer that manual/organic PE can work, but I also understand that hard-gainers do exist. I’m making a case that if you’ve exhausted all conventional means for girth as they were intended, you only risk injury by trying to push the frequency & intensity out of desperation. At that point, surgical (or non-surgical medical) intervention becomes a reasonable alternative if girth is that critical in your aspiration for size.

Thank you. Great info!

Not as much, nowadays. And having read through some of those old threads, I think it was more of a reaction against the skeevy practitioners who were taking advantage of mens’ insecurities than jealousy or Karenism. It seemed like every month or so there would be a new story hitting the national news, of some penis enlargement procedure that went wrong. I remember the urge to cross my legs and make a high keening sound when reading some of them.

The state of the art is much improved now, and places like Phalloboards have made it much easier for someone interested in an enlargement procedure to make an informed decision, talk to others who have had it done, and identify the good doctors from the incompetent.

I’m glad attitudes have changed, and I genuinely appreciate your sentiment regarding the PhalloBoards. There were times over the last 10+ years where I worried that the site could feed or exacerbate size insecurities when that was never my intent. The idea was to provide an information exchange regarding alternative solutions for size.

Women have been flaunting their boob and butt jobs for years (and surgeons are getting crazy good now if you see some of these Instagram models nowadays), and it was usually for one of two reasons, or both: (1) improvement in self-image & confidence -and/or- (2) becoming more marketable in a fiercely competitive dating climate, which has gotten progressively more challenging with the advent of Dating Apps & Social Media. So I asked myself, why can’t guys have their own procedure and get to enjoy the same benefits women do from their enhancements? Sure, some guys will say they don’t like "fake" but there are many who don’t mind or care. In the end, even if you are not a "boob man" and genuinely are indifferent to their cup size, you’ll STILL NOTICE a busty woman in a room if she wears it right. The attention alone is an asset, because while you may not ultimately care for her endowment, she still reaps the benefits of the ego boost. The male analogy would be something like a flaccid bulge (without having to rely on distasteful or tight attire), just endowed to the point of carrying a pouch, sure to get notices even if those noticing aren’t particularly obsessed with a man’s package.

I also saw improving one’s endowment as just one part of an overall self-improvement package. Get in shape, straighten & whiten your teeth, well groomed, hygienic, and well, why not include a bigger dick through guaranteed means (i.e. male phalloplasty) just as you get braces to ensure your teeth do in-fact realign. Just like the ladies, men would see a boost in self-image & confidence as well as improved marketability in the dating scene (having a reputation that you’re packing has to be a plus even if the women you come across aren’t size queens).

What I found remarkable early on is how much stigma revolved around the enhancement of the penis, that it was even taboo in cosmetic medicine circles. What didn’t help was that until the popularity of injectable fillers and the refining & radical improvement of dermal grafts and fat transfers, prior to 2011 the industry seemed to attract almost exclusively psychopaths, insecurity-exploiters, cash-grabbers, and the mad scientist types (i.e. wildly experimental). This history probably played a role in perpetuating the stigma associated with the surgical augmentation of the penis — both the Physicians and their countless botcheries. Fortunately, many GOOD & ETHICAL Doctors are seeing the viability and efficacy having been demonstrated well over a decade now, with the PhalloBoards providing a sufficient sample size of authentic (i.e. real Before & After photos) patients. The demand was always there, it just took someone Determined to Gain (heh) to establish a Platform out of the reach of the quacks and expose them for who and what they were, ultimately paving the way for a generation of successful techniques. Of course, no procedure is without risk, and no procedure will end up picture-perfect. PE in all its forms are elective endeavors, you have to assess what’s best for you.

As for some of those old threads you mentioned, those botcheries are still going on to this day. There are a handful of Doctors still performing unethical phalloplasty and I’m shocked they’re still practicing (it just may be a matter of time till some authority steps in once and for all). I’ve even had one’s Office approach me for Sponsorship which I flatly declined, and by extension, turned down a modest revenue stream. My site’s Community were & are integral to the development of the PhalloBoards being a legitimate (and quite literally only) source on the topic of elective medical male enhancement, both surgical and non-surgical, and for that, I’ll never sell out. Any of these Blacklisted Doctors/Clinics were to offer me a Ferrari I’d tell them to push it off a cliff (with no one inside of course lol).

Thanks again for the shout out :)

Struggled with girth too but if push comes to shove, I’m definitely getting the fat transfer procedure. I think the procedures have advanced a lot and a lot of the fat is definitely permanent. I think you do have to top off like 50% or a bit higher because they do get reabsorbed.

First of all, take a full week off. If at any point you hit a wall with growth it just means your body doesn’t have time to recover. It’s the same thing with gym muscle growth.

Than re-examine your jelqing technique. 15-30 minutes a day is plenty for girth growth with proper technique.

Pumping might cause a lag in girth growth. Girth grows better from internal pressure instead of suction. Pumping might be that extra in your day that you don’t need.

Sudden weight gain or decrease in testosterone can cause that. Loosing even 10 lb can put you on track.

No proper stretching can cause that. Proper stretching is very important and missed the most by beginner, and pros don’t even notice to mention stretching cause it’s a given.

Importantly add girth stretching. When you are starting off and get about 30% erect close grip at the bottom and the top of the shaft and squeeze them together for sudden girth increase pump. It’s like a quick rapid pumping action that way your girth does rapid stretching. Anything over 50% erect and it’s harder to create that pump effect.

Clamping does help too, but honestly jelqing is all you need.

Give us exact details on your routine: exact routine, what you do, which jelqing exercises, do you use hot pad to warm up and cool pad to cool down afterwards, amount of day per week you do it and which days are your recovery days?

Also, staying positive and don’t stress about it. It’s a temporary set back. You are doing the right thing by asking.

Surgery should not be on the table so soon.

Post your information too, we’ll get you on a right track and identify what is going on. I would never get anything surgical done to my penis, even if it was micro penis. I bet you we can solve it in 2 months and get you back on girth growth.

Also, fat transplant? Is it going to be soft? I’d rather had a rock hard penis with less girth than any softness. I want my sex partner to feel every crevice of that master peace to be 🤣.

Okay, I was skeptical, but just today, and it seems like it is out of nowhere, I noticed bigger gains. I’m going to see if it sticks, but I was down … but today I’m stoked.

I also want to point out that I’ve noticed a fluctuate of .25 inches (or 3-5% in length and girth) change depending throughout the week. I can have 7" one day and 7.2" the next day and than back to 7" the day after. This is the reason you see people not having a straight line in penile growth if you put it in the charts.

This is the point people normally stop believing in PE or jelqing. But it’s been around for 1000+ years, so I trust it.

Also, it helps to measure once a month for people who already have 2+ month experience with jelqing to prevent the divination marker.

Ideally if you are not gaining .25 every 4 month than you need to revisit your technique. And after achieving your goal you should maintain it with 1 day a week jelqing otherwise you start to loose your gains throughout the year.