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Ligament Stretching Physiology

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Originally Posted by Shiver
All sounds good to me Wad. My only nagging doubt is that there may be such a thing as too much load, even when well within tensile capacity if considering maximum potential. The a high degree of trauma that may affect the remodelling result and cause premature strengthening of tissues.

If I could have my time over again, to maximise potential I would stay with low(ish) tension levels until progress stalled, and only then increment it a little at a time. If I wanted as fast progress as possible then I would instead increase the time under tension as much as possible. I expect the tissue quality could be dramatically different that way. This is of course pure speculation on my part.


I did have my best length gains from low-level stretching but, hey, that was newbie gains - which can skew the equation.

But I’ve always been a proponent of “less is more.” When I was a trainee & a trainer, I used to urge guys to start with a base routine & increase gradually - as needed. If sets with 83% 1RM are affecting gains in absolute strength, why use 92% 1RM? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

I agree that guys should start low, but more force WILL be needed eventually, unless you plan to pull at low force for 4-6 hours per day to achieve creep.

As per lig stregthening, that can be sidetracked by strategic breaks. As I’ve said, I gained 0.22” EL in 3 weeks after a couple month break. By the way, the first week I pulled easy-moderate, the 2nd week moderate-forceful, and the 3rd week very forcefully. So….not sure which approach actually created the increase - or if it was the combination, or simply the break itself. :)

Well guys what you have here is a perfect Lab Rat.
I’ve never been on a stretching program, only stretched here and there to get the sensation. PURE NEWBIE.

If anyone is interested in a lab rat for Manual Stretching, PM ME !

Curious, what are your starting stats, goals and commitment ability (time)?

Wad has far more experience than me. Although I’ve been a PE’er for 4 years, I’m more an experimenter than a dedicated routine guy. It’s only in the last couple of weeks that I’ve started my new experiment (long term medium/low tension), so it’ll be a while before I can offer results.

Uhh I’m like 6” long and 4.5 around.

I’ve got LOTS of time on my hands, but i only wanna do it manually.

My goals are mainly flaccid and erect girth, but I understand that doing only girth can cause the penis to shorten >_<

This may sound strange but my penis is long enough. Some girth would be nice. But what I would really like is longer rock hard erections.

I always marvel at those Lavitra commericals. “If in a rare instance that your erection that last more than 4 HOURS call a doctor.” Doctor hell, I’d call a hooker.:)
Seriously, I would be happy if my penis could stand out straight for 40 seconds with out stimulation.

Should I do more stretching instead of jelqing? It sounds like you all are saying that I need a bunch of work on the ligaments.

I read somewhere around here, I think it was Sunny who posted, a journal or medical log where experiments were done on ligs. What I do remember is: +20 minutes is the time that ligs start to stretch. When I start doing my stretches again, I’m going to do 20 minutes of a continuous stretch in all directions (mostly SO and down.)


Sep. 2003: 7" bpel x 5" eg June 2004: 7 & 1/4" bp x 5 & 3/8" eg Jan. 2005: 7.5 x 5.5 Goal: 8x6 "I always knew pe existed but didn't know where to start, until I found Thundersplace."

How would you explain guys getting gains with 30 sec stretches then ?

Good stuff

I agree.

Good stuff.

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