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Is this stuff all a hoax?

Seriously thundersplace, this stuff has to be a hoax. I’ve been PEing for a year now and gotten nowhere. Not 1 single fraction of an increase. The only difference in my penis is that my EQ is better and my flaccid state hangs longer. I really don’t know what to do.

I’ve done the newbie routine, I’ve tried making the captain’s wench, I’ve tried clamping and gotten nowhere. I literally spend 5 months doing the newbie routine and then trying other routines for months on end, different variations and get nothing for it.

I’m really angry right now because instead of being encouraged I’m discouraged by the threads of people saying “woah look at my gains!” while I sit here twiddling my thumbs doing everything I can think of, everything you guys recommend and I’m getting nowhere. I haven’t sustained an injury thank god, but this is rediculous this site had to have made it’s debut on April 1st.

Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong? I can’t go back over all my routines and tell you what I did, I really can’t.

I did the newbie routine, then worked my way up to jelqing for 30 minutes and added a lot of heat, then I tried jelqing 1 day and hanging the next, then hanging one day and clamping the next. I tried just hanging, I’ve tried just clamping. I just wanna see some sorta result out of all this dedication

There are some before and after pics here of guys here who have made visible gains. It’s hard to deny that kind of evidence. I don’t think they all would photoshop there pics to prove something.

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nope no supplements

If your EQ is better and you flaccid hangs longer, you HAVE accomplished something. I have no doubt that PE can give you a bigger flaccid and a healthier dick. I’ve more than doubled my total flaccid volume. As far as erect length, I’m beginning to feel a select few guys get improvements here. I think permanent length gains are rare.

But, no. This forum is not a hoax. It’s changed my life.


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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
“Can anyone tell me what I’m doing wrong? I can’t go back over all my routines and tell you what I did, I really can’t.”

Then you should have posted this in the Mind Reader Forum.

That’s quite witty of you, but it helps no one. The point of that sentence is to let everyone know that I’ve done so much different shit that idk where to go from here. And if you’d read a bit further I had listed a bit chronologically of what I did do

Originally Posted by Big Girtha
If your EQ is better and you flaccid hangs longer, you HAVE accomplished something. I have no doubt that PE can give you a bigger flaccid and a healthier dick. I’ve more than doubled my total flaccid volume. As far as erect length, I’m beginning to feel a select few guys get improvements here. I think permanent length gains are rare.

But, no. This forum is not a hoax. It’s changed my life.

So wait, I know if you stop PE long enough you’ll lose some gains, but say you get 2 inches of length. If you stop PE you could lose all that hard work? So PE is a chronic thing?

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Originally Posted by vouzmere
So wait, I know if you stop PE long enough you’ll lose some gains, but say you get 2 inches of length. If you stop PE you could lose all that hard work? So PE is a chronic thing?

As far as length gains goes, I know some people here have lost some of there gains before. But others keep them they claim. I would guess a light manual stretching maitenince routine a few times a month for 5 mins or less would retain gains. I also hear others have gotten thier gains back rather quickly when they started PE again, so there is that too.

Originally Posted by vouzmere
That’s quite witty of you, but it helps no one. The point of that sentence is to let everyone know that I’ve done so much different shit that idk where to go from here. And if you’d read a bit further I had listed a bit chronologically of what I did do

A bit doesn’t help much does it? How consistent were you?


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Originally Posted by LoveMachine
As far as length gains goes, I know some people here have lost some of there gains before. But others keep them they claim. I would guess a light manual stretching maitenince routine a few times a month for 5 mins or less would retain gains. I also hear others have gotten thier gains back rather quickly when they started PE again, so there is that too.

The more I think about this, the more it seems - to me - that the harder it is for someone to make gains in the first place, the more likely it may be that those gains will be permanent, or at least that they’ll last longer. If you manage to achieve gains after a hard-fought battle, those gains are perhaps less likely to be plastic, and more likely due to new cell growth to at least a certain degree.

I’ve actually gained about an inch and a quarter since I started over ten years ago, as well as a mere 1/4 inch of girth. About 1/3 of that occurred before I even officially knew about PE and that there were other practitioners - I’ve just always had terrible circulation, and I did “exercises” that I thought would help. Well, they did, and I gained a small bit of girth in the process, which I’d chalked up to being a bit of a fluke at the time. However, those minimal gains lasted another four years, during which time I did nothing specific to maintain them.

As I’ve discovered over time and with significant effort, it turns out that with a lot of patience and consistency, and by doing specifically those things that have proven to work for me in the past, I can very slowly yet consistently push for further gains.

I put this down mostly to the tunica, which in my case seems extremely resilient and inflexible. Even after particularly intense routines (and following the few times I’ve attempted to pump), or even after hour-long clamping sessions, I’ve shown virtually no size increase, even if only temporary, which is the exact opposite of much of what I’ve read from other members here. Long term, I’ve gained significantly more length than girth, and considering that I was way above average in the length department and below average in girth (or pretty much average, depending on what source you trust), I think that likely says something about my particular physiology. Furthermore, I’ve been working out regularly for a dozen or so years - resistance training, not PE, and I hit a plateau about 11 years ago that I’ve ben unable to break through since. Given that, to my knowledge, muscle tissue is sheathed in fascia, which is also what the tunica is made of, the conclusion seems reasonable to me.

Point is, I think there is merit to PE, and, while individual success will certainly vary, it seems the most significant factor is finding what works for a given individual in particular, and then figuring out why, and sticking with it. Seeing as you’ve made no real gains yet (none visible, anyway), you might need to rely on a little luck to get the ball rolling in the first place, but stick with it and you might stumble onto something that suddenly works. And it does.

Originally Posted by The Outsider
The more I think about this, the more it seems - to me - that the harder it is for someone to make gains in the first place, the more likely it may be that those gains will be permanent, or at least that they’ll last longer. If you manage to achieve gains after a hard-fought battle, those gains are perhaps less likely to be plastic, and more likely due to new cell growth to at least a certain degree.

I’ve actually gained about an inch and a quarter since I started over ten years ago, as well as a mere 1/4 inch of girth. About 1/3 of that occurred before I even officially knew about PE and that there were other practitioners - I’ve just always had terrible circulation, and I did “exercises” that I thought would help. Well, they did, and I gained a small bit of girth in the process, which I’d chalked up to being a bit of a fluke at the time. However, those minimal gains lasted another four years, during which time I did nothing specific to maintain them.

As I’ve discovered over time and with significant effort, it turns out that with a lot of patience and consistency, and by doing specifically those things that have proven to work for me in the past, I can very slowly yet consistently push for further gains.

I put this down mostly to the tunica, which in my case seems extremely resilient and inflexible. Even after particularly intense routines (and following the few times I’ve attempted to pump), or even after hour-long clamping sessions, I’ve shown virtually no size increase, even if only temporary, which is the exact opposite of much of what I’ve read from other members here. Long term, I’ve gained significantly more length than girth, and considering that I was way above average in the length department and below average in girth (or pretty much average, depending on what source you trust), I think that likely says something about my particular physiology. Furthermore, I’ve been working out regularly for a dozen or so years - resistance training, not PE, and I hit a plateau about 11 years ago that I’ve ben unable to break through since. Given that, to my knowledge, muscle tissue is sheathed in fascia, which is also what the tunica is made of, the conclusion seems reasonable to me.

Point is, I think there is merit to PE, and, while individual success will certainly vary, it seems the most significant factor is finding what works for a given individual in particular, and then figuring out why, and sticking with it. Seeing as you’ve made no real gains yet (none visible, anyway), you might need to rely on a little luck to get the ball rolling in the first place, but stick with it and you might stumble onto something that suddenly works. And it does.

Well put Outsider, you are a PE vet I see. :)

I know you don’t want to waste any more time vouzmere, but there is so much more you can try that one year can’t cover. It’s kind of skateboarding, the list of tricks (PE methods in this case) and combination of them is nearly limitless. Paitence is a virtue.

Good Lord man, you can’t expect anyone to help you if you don’t give some specifics.

Start with

Frequency
Intensity
Days per week trained
volume
which routines you were on
etc etc etc

The more you tell us, the more we can see a pattern and figure out what you need to change.

Coming online saying ‘PE must be a hoax’ and asking us to spend our time to solve your problems for you, when you can’t even be bothered to type out what you did - that is something an Ignorant Prick would do.
As I don’t think you are really an ignorant prick, just frustrated, take the time and spell it out for us so we can help.


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Buy a Bib and start hanging. And yes, PE does involve a long term commitment. Maybe not lifetime, but it will require maintenance to keep your gains. I’ve gained an inch in 4 months and am still going.


Serious starting point: Nov. 2, 2009/BPEL 5.75 x 4.75 inches.

Current BPEL 7 1/2 x 5.5 inches.

Goal: BPEL 8 x 6 inches. Hell, if I hit 8, I'm going for 9!

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