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Originally Posted by ThunderSS
Or how many guys have gained 2 inches in a year.

I’ll probably hit this mark on my year anniversary. I am a natural gainer.

I think that if your body responds well to PE, combined with an excellent PE routine, there shouldn’t be too many barriers getting to huge lengths. I think a major factor is listening to and understanding your body.

Hope I learn this, would change my life to gain 2” or more.

From everything I read, a 3” gain is extremely rare. But someday I WILL be in that club. As of today, I have gained right at 1.75”. I do realize the gains will slow. (Which they are coming slower already.) But you/I can not gain anything without doing PE, and the more you want, the more time it will take. You must be determained for a long up hill battle.


2007-01-27 5.3" BPEL 4.8" EG, Less than 3" Flaccid, and sometimes less than 2"

As of 12-07-2008 7.75" BPEL 7.1" NBPEL 5.7"MSEG 6"+ BSEG. Ultimate goal 8+ inches NBPEL, 8.5" BPEL 6.3" EG (2" diameter just sounds so cool!)

Flaccid 5+ inches on a good day. 4 1/2+ pretty much anytime. My gains have slowed to a snails pace, but I will not quit!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by hbgreek
Sure, the newbie routine is the best for newbies. If not for safety, then just because PE has a learning curve.


…making this a good thing to mention in a thread in the Newbie Forum, I think.

Originally Posted by hbgreek
But down the road? It’s the insane, risky guys who keep the big gains coming. It’s dangerous but I think that’s what it takes.

We don’t see 3”+ gainers here any more. Why not? It’s because we are a lot more pessimistic than places like MoS or the old paysites. There it’s “4 inches in 6 months, guaranteed”. Here it’s “2 inches in a few years, if you’re lucky”. Which is more motivating? Sure, the MoS guys who go insane and “only” gain 2 inches are going to fall short, but they’ll still be damn happy about their dicks.


It won’t surprise you that I disagree. I think great gains are possible doing PE safely and without ‘going insane’. They may not be overnight, but you’ll have a better chance of having a penis that actually works when you get done.

Originally Posted by hbgreek
I’m not saying the limit is infinite. I just think people are too eager to discuss the limit without mentioning that they really have no idea.


Then we agree; if you PE, there’s a very good chance that your gain will be more than zero and less than infinity. Personally, I prefer to think in terms of goals and not about limits. In the thread What is your true goal?, my answer was “An inch more in length and 1/2 inch more in girth than whatever I have at the moment.”

It still is.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by hbgreek
Sure, the MoS guys who go insane and “only” gain 2 inches are going to fall short, but they’ll still be damn happy about their dicks.

And the much greater of number of those guys that permanently damage their units, what about them?

I freely admit that I have absolutely no information to site as a source; i.e., I am using the same source that you are. ;)


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
…making this a good thing to mention in a thread in the Newbie Forum, I think.

Yeah, sorry, I missed that it was a Newbie thread. Not a good excuse but I usually do recommend the newbie routine when newbs ask.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
It won’t surprise you that I disagree. I think great gains are possible doing PE safely and without ‘going insane’. They may not be overnight, but you’ll have a better chance of having a penis that actually works when you get done.

All the guys claiming big gains seem to do an insane amount of work. That’s all I’ve seen and so that’s what I have to go off of.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Then we agree; if you PE, there’s a very good chance that your gain will be more than zero and less than infinity.

:)

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Personally, I prefer to think in terms of goals and not about limits.

I’m the same. However, I know enough to be skeptical if someone says “here’s the limit”. But a gullible newbie? They don’t realize how unknown the science (or art) of PE is.

Not only that, a lot of folks come here thinking that 10”+ is the standard for big. I’m sure some of them see us ooh and ahh over an inch and think “a measly inch? That’s not going to make a difference. I’d only be 7 inches” and quit.

I’m rambling, not sure what the hell I’m arguing… I think I’m advocating that we should act like the sky’s the limit. Next time some chap comes in here saying he needs an extra 6” for his date on Friday, I’m going to tell him he can do it. What’s the harm in that? Nobody can disprove that and the guy would be much more motivated. Which would be great: lack of motivation is the biggest killer of gains. Even more than injury.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

Statstatstats.

Originally Posted by iamaru
And the much greater of number of those guys that permanently damage their units, what about them?

I freely admit that I have absolutely no information to site as a source; i.e., I am using the same source that you are. ;)

Who are these guys who are breaking their dicks? Half of them think they have a thrombosed vein when they don’t. The other half get a discoloration injury. Remember that thread where the guy was convinced he broke his dick with some hellish MoS newbie routine and everyone was telling him he didn’t really break it. Seems like I’m not the only who thinks major injuries are uncommon.

Just warm up and avoid pain. That’s all it takes.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

Statstatstats.

The man who started this thread was asking if that gains are realistic, not if they are possible; realistic means probable, right? So, by data we have collected on this site, these gains are not realistic.

If there was no upper limit, don’t you think we would see some guys with 14-15” units?

There is an upper limit. That limit can be extended by what you do safely, but there is a limit.

I don’t think 3” is realistic. 2” would be also at the upper end of what many guys achieve with perhaps 1” very much more common in my view.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

Originally Posted by hbgreek
Next time some chap comes in here saying he needs an extra 6” for his date on Friday, I’m going to tell him he can do it. What’s the harm in that? Nobody can disprove that and the guy would be much more motivated. Which would be great: lack of motivation is the biggest killer of gains. Even more than injury.


I think that the harm would be:

(a) when it doesn’t happen (and has anyone ever gained six inches in less than a week?), your credibility will be damaged, and

(b) he’s more likely to give up on PE altogether when he fails to meet those unreasonable expectations.

On the other hand, if someone asks that same question, and I tell him, “No, you’re not going to gain six inches by next Friday, but with patience and persistence, there’s a good chance that you’ll gain. A substantial number of men have gained an inch within a year.” At that point, he can decide that an inch and a year is not worth it, and not even start PE. He can also decide that he’s going to start PE, realizing that it’s going to take time. I think that someone starting PE with that more realistic mindset is more likely to stick with it, because he is not expecting six inches by Friday.

I’ve said more than once that PE is a marathon, not a sprint. I’m not going to tell someone that they can run a four minute marathon by next Friday and set them up for failure.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Truth should have some value, this was teached to me - the scope doesn’t even justify the trick.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
(a) when it doesn’t happen (and has anyone ever gained six inches in less than a week?), your credibility will be damaged, and

(b) he’s more likely to give up on PE altogether when he fails to meet those unreasonable expectations.


(a) Oh no.

(b) People need to hear that their goals are possible, just to get them started. The guy will PE a week, gain nothing, but in the meantime he’ll be reading the forum, looking at other guys’ progress, getting a better idea of what a good size is, and stay. He isn’t going to hang his head in shame that he didn’t meet his goal. He’ll be much more excited and realistic about PE. If I tell someone they can’t do it then they’ll leave. If he’s the kind of guy who can’t take failure then he won’t last long, regardless of what anyone says.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

Statstatstats.

There are some with an inability to accurately measure and a lack of integrity, for those the limits or limitless.

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