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Is this realistic

Quite honestly, I’d be very happy if I can gain one inch in length and 1/2” in girth. That would give me the magic 8 x 6. I’d stop there.

Originally Posted by sam1966
I know I’m new at this, but I don’t see why there would be any physiological reason for there to be an upper limit on gains. Look at what people do to their lips and earlobes. I would think that as long as one keeps stretching the ligaments and tunica, the penis would continue to adapt (grow). I would guess that most gains stop because people either lose their commitment, or they reach their goal and their incentive to continue PE is diminished. Or perhaps they reach a point where it will take more effort to produce additional gains, and they decide it’s not worth it.

In regards to suziesun12’s comment, I would think it would be easier for you to reach 11 inches than it would be for a 5.5 incher to reach 8.5 You only have to stretch 37.5% to reach 11 inches, the person with the 5.5 inch dick has to grow by 55%.


Take a look at this graph and this graph and tell me that there are no upper limits on gains. Looks to me like you have to do more and more to gain less and less until you’re expending infinite effort to achieve negligible gains.

I have to believe that there’s been at least one person here with the desire and persistence to gain four, five, six inches if it was possible to do so. Since a vanishingly small number of men here have reported as much as three inches of increase, what does that tell you? Do a Google search on “largest human penis”, and see what you get for results.

As to the physiological reason for an upper limit of gains, that depends considerably upon just what is happening to our dicks when we PE - a realm of a lot of theories, but precious little solid biological research and facts.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

The graphs don’t show the reasons the gains stopped. Why does the stoppage of growth have to be because of some theoretical limit? It could be for one of the three reasons I mentioned in my previous post.

Possible yes, probable no.


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Originally Posted by sam1966
I know I’m new at this, but I don’t see why there would be any physiological reason for there to be an upper limit on gains. Look at what people do to their lips and earlobes. I would think that as long as one keeps stretching the ligaments and tunica, the penis would continue to adapt (grow). I would guess that most gains stop because people either lose their commitment, or they reach their goal and their incentive to continue PE is diminished. Or perhaps they reach a point where it will take more effort to produce additional gains, and they decide it’s not worth it.

In regards to suziesun12’s comment, I would think it would be easier for you to reach 11 inches than it would be for a 5.5 incher to reach 8.5 You only have to stretch 37.5% to reach 11 inches, the person with the 5.5 inch dick has to grow by 55%.

I agree with most everything in this post.

Originally Posted by Lampwick
Since a vanishingly small number of men here have reported as much as three inches of increase, what does that tell you?


One thing it suggests to me, is that guys may reach a practical plateau beyond which they don’t care to grow any larger.

Remember, at a certain point in size, probably even before reaching 10”, erection quality is going to drop off, as we’ve seen that guys with large penises generally don’t get good erections. So for anyone whose goals include having normal sex with partners, there is probably a practical upper limit to size.

Also, anyone whose goals include having sex with partners who aren’t genuine size queens, may run into enough problems to make them stop between 8” or 9”, and possibly even below that - particularly if they have a steady partner who is on the small side. There have been several experiences in this regard, reported and discussed in threads here.

FF

Originally Posted by sam1966
The graphs don’t show the reasons the gains stopped. Why does the stoppage of growth have to be because of some theoretical limit? It could be for one of the three reasons I mentioned in my previous post.


You’re right, Sam1966, they don’t show the reasons the gains stopped, and the reasons for stopping could be for one of the three non-physiological causes you proposed. But you haven’t answered my question: with the tens of thousands of members here, don’t you think there’d be at least some who wanted four, five or six inches? Where are they with their results?

Out of the tens of thousands of members here, how many four inch gainers have there been?

You can say, well, they gave up because it got harder and harder to gain, not impossible to gain. Fine. Let’s accept that for the sake of argument. So WHY does it get harder and harder to gain? What (and it could be more than one thing) was changing during the time that increases went from easy newbie gains to increasingly difficult gains?

And there are limits to how much you can increase your PE effort. If your penis becomes increasingly refractory to increase in size, you cannot PE more than twenty-four hours a day or seven days a week. There are limits to the strength of human flesh, should you want to stretch harder and harder or pump more and more intensively. And finally, as a thought experiment, what happens when you grow your dick so large that your heart can no longer pump blood through your body? A ridiculous extreme, to be sure, but you are arguing in favor of no physiological limits, which would seem to put that ridiculous scenario in play.

It reminds me of a joke sometimes attributed to Sir Winston Churchill:

A man walks up to a beautiful young woman and says, “Will you sleep with me for a million dollars?”
She says, “Sure.”
So he says, “Will you sleep with me for a dollar then?”
She slaps him in the face and says, “What kind of woman do you think I am?”
He replies, “We have already established that, we are just arguing over price.”

I’ll remind you of your initial statement:

Originally Posted by sam1966
I know I’m new at this, but I don’t see why there would be any physiological reason for there to be an upper limit on gains.

Do you still want to contend that there are no physiological limits on growth, or would it be more productive to consider what those limits may be and how we might best surmount them?


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Originally Posted by FrenumFellow
One thing it suggests to me, is that guys may reach a practical plateau beyond which they don’t care to grow any larger.

Remember, at a certain point in size, probably even before reaching 10”, erection quality is going to drop off, as we’ve seen that guys with large penises generally don’t get good erections. So for anyone whose goals include having normal sex with partners, there is probably a practical upper limit to size.

Also, anyone whose goals include having sex with partners who aren’t genuine size queens, may run into enough problems to make them stop between 8” or 9”, and possibly even below that - particularly if they have a steady partner who is on the small side. There have been several experiences in this regard, reported and discussed in threads here.

FF


FrenumFellow, I agree that many or most guys may reach a practical plateau and go to a maintenance routine or stop entirely because they are satisfied. But again I ask, of the tens of thousands on this site, aren’t there ANY who want to enlarge to what some would consider to be an absurd size (regardless of functionality) just because they could? If they aren’t getting the results they want, why not? Assuming that they have the requisite desire and commitment to get that much larger (however long it may take, however slowly), what is stopping them - suboptimal routine, or physiological limits?

In your discussion of numbers, talking about men gaining to eight, nine or ten inches, you seem to be assuming that everyone is starting from average. There are those starting from less than that who would still be well less than eight inches even with a three inch gain. So again, isn’t there anyone with a four inch dick whose goal is an eight inch dick, and if he doesn’t get there, why?

I’m not arguing against any of Sam1966’s non-physiological reasons why gains may stop: lack of commitment, satisfaction with reaching a goal, or diminishing returns. I am arguing against there being no physiological limits to growth, which is what Sam1966 is asserting. I just don’t think that with all the other, non-physiological factors in place - enough time, determination and the right routine, you can grow an infinitely long penis.


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Who cares? The more you talk about this, the more pessimistic it’s going to make you. I’m sure a lot of people read these kinds of threads and happy day! they have an excuse to slack off on their workouts. They’ve reached their limit anyways so what’s the point? And then they come back here complaining about how PE doesn’t work for them.

Always, always remember: PE is a new science, developed with little medical rigor. No one knows what is possible. Whenever someone says “this is the limit” you need to take that with a grain of salt. They’re probably wrong.

Don’t over-think it. Just work your ass off. You will gain.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

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Originally Posted by FrenumFellow
3” gain would put you at 8.5”, which is so exceptionally large that it can actually be a problem during sex. Some would question whether that is even a realistic size for a penis for the purpose of sex with women - and particularly if you want to have oral or anal sex.

1” gain would put you above average, while 2” would put you well above average. You have very realistic chances of getting gains in that range, which is large enough to make a positive difference.

Good Luck,

FF

Man you have a very realistic approach, I think that at some bigger size penis it’s just for ego boost than pleasuring a girl.

Originally Posted by hbgreek
Who cares? The more you talk about this, the more pessimistic it’s going to make you. I’m sure a lot of people read these kinds of threads and happy day! they have an excuse to slack off on their workouts. They’ve reached their limit anyways so what’s the point? And then they come back here complaining about how PE doesn’t work for them.

Always, always remember: PE is a new science, developed with little medical rigor. No one knows what is possible. Whenever someone says “this is the limit” you need to take that with a grain of salt. They’re probably wrong.

Don’t over-think it. Just work your ass off. You will gain.


Anyone who uses the existence of physiological limits as a reason not to PE deserves the results that they (don’t) get.

The lack of medical rigor is exactly why PE is art as much as it is science.

“Just work your ass off” is an overly simple approach at best, and is potentially damaging at worst. We’ve got to be smarter than that in PE. Bruce force isn’t the answer; sometimes less is more. It’s better not to overdo; how many times have you seen stories here of men who were not gaining, increased their effort and still did not gain, or who brought their newbie gains to a screeching halt because if a little PE is good, a lot more MUST be better! Hang, clamp, pump, stretch with weights, baby! Work your ass off!

I’d rather tell a newbie, “Be persistent, be consistent, be patient, don’t try to do too much too quickly and there’s a very good chance you’ll develop a bigger and healthier dick,” than to say, “Sky’s the limit, dude! Work your ass off, and you can be infinitely large! Your only limit is your lack of effort and persistence!” That's setting the newbie up for failure, because then if they don’t gain, well, it must be their fault for not wanting it enough or working hard enough; no chance that they could’ve gained under a more reasonable and measured routine…


For Lampwick, becoming hung like a donkey was the result of a total commitment.

Sure, the newbie routine is the best for newbies. If not for safety, then just because PE has a learning curve.

But down the road? It’s the insane, risky guys who keep the big gains coming. It’s dangerous but I think that’s what it takes.

We don’t see 3”+ gainers here any more. Why not? It’s because we are a lot more pessimistic than places like MoS or the old paysites. There it’s “4 inches in 6 months, guaranteed”. Here it’s “2 inches in a few years, if you’re lucky”. Which is more motivating? Sure, the MoS guys who go insane and “only” gain 2 inches are going to fall short, but they’ll still be damn happy about their dicks.

I’m not saying the limit is infinite. I just think people are too eager to discuss the limit without mentioning that they really have no idea.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

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Originally Posted by ThunderSS

And it has to be true, I read it on the internet.

We should ignore the internet and only listen to doctors. PE doesn’t work.


Then: 6.75" x 5" ----> Now: 8.5" x 5.75"

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