I want to grow more.

Hey, I have a question, I dont like jelqing, maybe because it is hard to figure out and get a good feel, I have never felt the blood moving up the shaft or anything, I mainly just get a 70 percent semi. I do some jelqing before my BM Pump sesh. I mainly do that and a cock ring and ball jelqing. I like my FL but I want to get more growth to have a longer Erect Length, how can I get that, can you or anybody help. Thanks. and I will edit my signature soon to show growth,keep meaning to do that. it has been a little improvement.

Well its pity that you don’t like jelqing. I’ve seen amazing results from jelqing at different percentages.
When I’m working on length its between 60 and 80% erect, and when I’m going for girth its close to 100%. 100% is not for beginners, so please have some damn good experience with jelqing and make sure your penis can take it before attempting.
I’m now going for 9 inches BPEL and I’m only using manuals, and mostly jelqing to get there. And already seeing and feeling some results.

But then again I’m a bit “special” so guess each person must do what works for them.

Can you give us more info? What was your routine? How long have you tried it? Etc…

Also the BM isn’t going to give you much length gains if any.

I think it is mainly because I don’t have a lot of free space, I don’t live alone, so I have to do a little here and there. And my issue is I am going for length gains so I heard from people here that it is best to have like 30% to 50% for length gains. I can never get that, I always get too hard. How can I work on that, what do you do. My routine is I use coconut oil and try to get some blood moving around and keep it loose and dangling by doing some jelqing for maybe like 30 to 60 reps, I do about 30-40 testicle jelqs, 5 to 10 minute warm towel warmup, then take a 30 minute shower/bath and use the bathmate x30 for 20 minutes. I then do another 5 minute warm towel cool down. I have been doing PE since October of 2016. I have done stretches, I have done pumped bends, pumped squeezes, bed fowlers, behind the ass pulls, dick twists with stretching. I think that is it. Thanks for help to question.

Why will BM not give me that much length gains? I started with the x20, I filled it out, I am now using the x30. It was mainly filling out the girth of x20 so not able to grow in length but I now tried the x20 and I fill out the length easy, with not even trying to pump a lot. like just 2 pumps. I am having fun and getting gains I have been doing 5 on 2 off for the last 2 and a half weeks and it feels pretty good. I think I have already made some for sure gains in girth and some in length from just those last couple weeks.

Hey Diddy

If I make a rough guess about the above mentioned routine it’s
- 5 min jelqing
- 5min testicle jelqing (by the way: what is that as exercise?)
- 5-10 min warm-up
- 30min shower/bath (including 20min of Bathmate use)
- 5min warm-down

That sums up to an estimated 50 minutes - plenty of time I think.
So it’s well feasible to have an alternative procedure.

Your primary goal is length. I am sorry but the Bathmate will not terribly help you in that.
I know this is not the news you wanted to hear - spent already quite some cash on your first X20 and now having the x30, but that’s the way it is.
The reason is simply the size of the Bathmates. Most pumpers say that a custom-fitted tube is essential if you want to work on specific goals.
The Bathmate is a “one size fits all device” within the same model.

So if you grow out of a model let’s say for girth reasons and are aiming for length.
The next model may be a bit too large and therefore creating too much vacuum on the sides (which works on girth) instead of having a snugly fit where the vacuum works mainly on length.
Therefore, water pumping with the Bathmate has some limitations if you have specific goals.

Working for length is the good old stretching - and yes, jelqing too.
Stretching is an easy thing, it’s pretty simple to do and to get the right grip and force.
So I’d propose that you introduce stretching as specific length-oriented exercise.

Then jelqing: you say you don’t like it but you nevertheless do it as preparation for the Bathmate.
And you said you never had the feeling of the blood flowing - maybe you simply jelqed at a level of erection which is too high.
Jelqing is maybe a bit more complicated than stretching, but it is probably the generally most recognized exercise working on length and girth.
It is, in my humble view, the “general purpose” exercise that should be part of every routine.
It is well worth learning it - so give yourself some time.

You did not mention your warm-up method, but as you do it in the bathroom I guess it’s a damp wash cloth.
I am a big fan of the rice-sock as the heat gets applied deeper, but I think we just let things as they are for the moment.

So, now lets get practical. It’s time for a rest… for the Bathmate!
But first you have to decondition yourself maybe a bit, so I’d say make a 1 or 2 week break.

What I would propose is the switch to the following routine

- Warm-up 5min with wash cloth
- Dry the penis, grab some cosmetic towels for a better grip and do stretching: 2x 30seconds 5-directions (up/down/left/right/out)
- Get an erection of a maximum of 50% and start the wet jelqing. Do slow jelqs (5 second per movement). Before every jelq, Kegel some blood in the penis to keep the erection level at 50%. Do 60 jelqs! this lasts roughly 5 minutes.
- Then relax and start masturbating - this replaces the Bathmate part, only this time the pressure comes from inside and is more effective - so masturbate as first measure to get as hard as you can.
- Then keep yourself as hard as possible for as long as possible - but WITHOUT orgasm! If the erection gets weaker, start to Kegel again until it’s rock hard.
- When you are really close to the point of no return STOP!
- The comes the final 5min warm-down.

Then ramp up to the following way:
Month 1 2on/2off
Month 2 3on/2off
Month 3 4on/2off
Month 4 5on/2off (maximum frequency)

Measure and report on a monthly base and we’ll see how far you get :-)