Can't Stay Erect While Jelging

What about pumping and then applying a cock ring?

I have the same problem

That’s one method of forcing blood to remain in the shaft, sure, although that can also bring the risk of toughening the penis from PE growth with too much use this early on.
The length of time one stays hard is a topic of debate between individuals, but the important point is that it -is- normal to eventually go soft. The problem here, of course, is that it gets in the way of adequate jelqing and I’ve had this same problem for a while. L-Arginine supplements didn’t seem to do the trick, nor did a month’s break from PE. It still happens with exercise and lack of porn.

How are you, and your state of mind? This can have a lot of effect towards erection. If you are struggling with self-esteem or personal life issues, that can definitely impact your EQ. Lot of reasons why guys also go soft during sex is anxiety with sexual performance and the case can be they don’t even realise it.

Thanks for the heads up on the ring being able to cause problems!

So if I have to watch porn for a while get through the beginning phase, when do I graduate to being able to pump and apply a ring?

I’m not one for pumps and those stuff, so can’t help you there. A cock ring got in the way when I tried it, but it might help keep the blood there.

On the last one, it sounds like your EQ is a bit bad. I know when mine is shot from too much stretching I experience the same. So I would suggest you stop stretching (if you do) for a while and work on your EQ. Edging hard might help here.

I wish I had your problems. I need help keeping my erection quality down when jelqing.

The consensus is also muddied here. It’s typically when you stop gaining from Beginner’s Routine, but possible factors can make discerning this tricky; someone might not get anywhere after months of the Beginner’s Routine, and there’s multiple reasonings. Poor technique, emotional hang ups, overtraining, unfortunate genetics, etc.
Simpler way to see progressing onto devices is as a last resort, but without the severity in how it sounds. You basically exhausted every softer approach to inducing gains, and so the penis needs a shake up to knock some light trauma into it and get the gains going again.

AFAIK ThoughtfulGold’s outlook on devices is to use them briefly over the space of a few weeks, I think, and to then take a break and prevent the penis toughening.

Yes, that is perfect for maintaining your post pump size while you edge, or otherwise enjoy yourself. :)

But I would bot recommend it for jelqing as the blood exchange could be too low.

A starting kegel before each jelq is betteer in my opinion as measure to maintain the erection level.

And the second thing is to slightly clamp the base with the other hand during jelqing.

So overall it would be kegel, clamp, jelq, release clamp as cycle.

So would that include jelging?

I guess I don’t see how using a cock right to maintain a 60% erection while jelging would be any more traumatic (likely to cause toughening) than just jelging at 60% erection without the ring?

Similarly why would doing a very short and light pump routine be more trauma than jelging?

Thanks for all you guys help.

When I put a cock ring on after pumping it is so I can hold a 100% erection plus the post pump size.

For me, a cock ring just gets in the way of proper jelq technique. Plus, I equate cock ring with erection and jelqing is not done erect.

A very short light pump routine for me is totally ineffective and certainly not more trauma then jelqing. How could a light short pump routine involve trauma anyways?

That’s what the other guys said, that doing jelg with cock ring can be too intense and cause problems with the cock getting hardened/toughened up and thereby preventing gains.

I guess I’m looking for a beginners routine that does not involve jelging, does this exist?

You can jelq with a cock ring on as long as you are not 100% erect. I was just saying that for me, it gets in the way, but if it works for you go for it. I don’t see it being detrimental from an injury standpoint as long as you are not erect.

I think you can well do the Newbie routine without jelqing. The important part is to get your dick conditioned first before moving to more individual routines.

So why not give it a try?

I don’t mean to frustrate you with differing advice from other users — it’s just my input, and experience trumps theory, which is what everyone else here has over me. There’s no exact science to PE, and of course follow the advice of some over others if you consider that to be a more sensible plan.
Having said that, do you have a girlfriend/boyfriend at the moment? How’s your erection whilst with them if so?

If it goes soft quickly during moments of intimacy then there could be an underlying problem here which may be worth visiting a doctor about. (Depending on how viable that is for you.) Other aspects like being soft near PoNR sounds odd, and a while back it seemed like you were Jelqing with a full erection and tight grip going by your first topic.
And stretching for length could be fine if you go about it carefully because a number of users report their EQ lowering as a (relatively normal) result, so that could frustrate you further.

It’s otherwise speculation on my part. Your EQ could improve over time, as the body is sometimes mysterious like that. Hopefully this hasn’t made you anxious, which isn’t the point. The point is that good EQ is fundamental to basic PE, let alone putting it through devices and tougher regimes.