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controversial just TO BE controversial

I’m not going to go deep into the whole “parasite vs host” debate…which actually has been going on since louis pasterur “discovered” microbes were “the cause of… etc etc”
There are a number of excellent pieces of literature on this topic, and I advise you to look at “the other side” of the debate, if AIDS is your cup of tea. Start with WORLD WITHOUT AIDS by Steven Ramson along with PLAGUE, PESTILENCE & THE PURSUIT OF WAR.

I am a person who always looks into debates where there is some sort of “mystery” about a disease, the “real reasons” behind the start of a war, why certain decisions are made, etc etc.

AIDS, just like “cancer, ADD, vaccines” seems to be a big fucking mystery, despite the fact that for 20 years the news has reported all these new “developments” in the “battle to …..” AIDS simply means auto immune disease syndrome. Hey, pal, I can name a number of things which can contribute to the body’s self - attacking mechanism, and no virus(including the mono retrovirus) has been scientifically proven to cause this type of disease.

Take the bubonic plague virus for example. Scientifically, it is proven to ONLY infect those of you with TYPE O blood. As a matter of fact, the reason Europe has such a higher TYPE A blood population is because this plague wiped out a big population of O TYPES specifically. But not every TYPE O person was killed of course. And the reason I believe is true involves the concept of PERCEPTION. Sure, a virus can attach to the TYPE O blood antigen, but it is the person’s PERCEPTION of how deadly the infection will be is a better indication of the progression of the virus.

BTW, the small pox virus is opposite. All TYPE O humans are immune to small pox.

I brought up the “controversy” so you(Anna) could turn your attention away from AIDS and not really stress over it. Stressing over things only contributes to back pain. I’m not telling anyone to believe what I say, but perhaps read some non-mass media literature and then think for yourself.

I would presume the jelqing public would appreciate a little fringe information on sexual health, but maybe I’m wrong. But I do agree, I have absolutely little tact. But if I’m hurting people’s feelings by being open about a topic & providing new insight(from the other side), that’s pretty sad. YOu should hear what I have to say about the “causes” of most cancer. Your relatives would kill me and call me blasphemous. Which is fine, since I have no soul.

<<Besides, even if you do get AIDS just rape a virgin and you will be cured! (just kidding, that BS is going around in parts of africa as well.)>>

Civilized Right Wing Conservatives enjoy throwing this line out all the time(especially on talk radio). They have to “prove” how much more civilized the Western World is in many aspects of life.

But I will confess, science itself is based on the works of magicians from all over the Middle Ages of Europe and the “crazy, wacky” voodoo masters of Africa. Science owes a lot to the magic world.

Eating & behavior plan for AIDS……only YOU know what works for you. I still wonder why no doctor can explain how a common cold virus can just “run its course,” but the imaginary(but “real”) AIDS virus is INEVITABLY going to kill you(unless you take the latest super duper drugs).

I would like to examine the carcasses of people who have just “wasted away”(MS, Desert Storm veterans) and compare them to “victims of AIDS” exclusively. Each body would reach the goal of “wasting away” but in a different pathway. Some carcasses will show similar pathways, and others will not. That’s why we apply names to the disease, even though many times there isn’t an answer that can be be proven. Science is confusing, especially when you can’t repeat the results. That’s why I know there will never be a “cure” for cancer. Outside of contamination by carcinogens, people give cancer to themselves….and with little help from genetic predispositions, negative social & mental environments. Even if a drug was capable of “destroying” one chunk of cancers, unless the person’s perception of “cancer” changes, the body will find a way to resurface somewhere else. Remission is just one of many mysteries of science that I believe must be attacked homeopathically(via observation of the HOST & not the parasite).

AIDS stands for Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.

The Plague is actually caused by bacteria transmitted by fleas. It is not a virus.

Certain blood types do have a higher immunity to some diseases.

Maybe it is not the message that is causing problems, but the way it is delivered.


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wow, the trojan magnum XL on that site is 62mm width, this comes out at almost 8” circumferance, so why do guys complain about them being to small. i thought only ulistrech ever had that much girth.

SJA


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How good can condoms be at preventing disease when it leaves part of your cock exposed to vaginal fluid? When you have sex, especially if it’s really good and wet, you’re gonna get her juices all over the base of your cock, your testicles, etc… What about when you take the condom off? Your penis must come into contact with her vaginal fluid then.

Are only certain parts of the penis succeptable to infection? Do viruses enter through the urethra, or the skin?

Even if you’ve got the perfect fitting condom, they tend to roll down occasionally during sex, depending on the position, how intense you’re thrusting, etc…

It’s better to use one (and use it propery, I might add) than not at all, but just how much protection are you really getting?

Prickle,

the condom protects the mucus membranes at the head of the penis, which is through were an infection “enters”. If you roll the condom off you should be OK, but even if you don´t I think the risk is pretty minimal once outside of the vagina.

EnrichedFlow,

I don´t think anyone questioned that modern science owe, and still can learn, from ancient and so called “alternative” medicine. Raping a virgin is most likely not one of those things though.

Besides, how does it work when you gangrape a virgin, after the first guy she´s no longer virgin anyway, right? Or is there a timelimit?

I think some of those rapes are blamed on the AIDS-problem, they happen otherwhere too, but it doesn´t help that authorities denies the severity of the situation. Or are you saying that South Africa now actually is in the lead when it comes to being true? Since they obviously isn´t part of the big coverup and don´t support the use of AIDS medicine.

That 20.000.000 South africans are risking dying from AIDS now doesn´t speak very well for that, does it?

I respect your opinions, but sometimes there´s more than one side, or even both sides, of the coin.

OOPs......BUT

Thanks for the trainspotting on the virus-bacterium snafoo.

The Black Plague is especially interesting from the perspective of ABO blood groups, since Yersinia pestis, the source of the plague, is a bacterium that prefers individuals of a specific ABO group, in this case, group O.

Group O would have the survivial advantage agiainst the flukes and worms(which routinely infected early humans) probably because it is the only blood group with antibodies against two other antigens, A & B.

Also, people should realize that bacteria does not “attack” healthy tissue in general. I believe that it is the health of the host that will determine the course of an “infection.” The more profitable & more popular route in the “civilized world” is to treat medical problems in a rather militaristic way(drugs to kill….suppress…..accentuate….stimulate…… various mechanisms within the body, which is why there are such things as “side effects). The best solution to any problem is not to attack the symptom, but get to the bottom of the problem. Whatever.

Anyways, the 62 mm girth won’t fit comfy for a 8” girth compadre. It’s barely looser than the magnum originale. It will still leave a red ring on the base of your shaft. It also depends on your mushroom tip. Although my shaft girth is no more than 5.5,” I have an xtra-flared tip compared to what’s out there. But even with that, a supposedly 7.66” circumference should be more comfy.

EnrichedFlow wrote:

<<Besides, even if you do get AIDS just rape a virgin and you will be cured! (just kidding, that BS is going around in parts of africa as well.)>>

Civilized Right Wing Conservatives enjoy throwing this line out all the time(especially on talk radio). They have to “prove” how much more civilized the Western World is in many aspects of life.>>

If you can’t address an issue divert the topic or attack the messenger. I don’t listen to talk radio so I will take your word for the above. I have lived all over the world and my views are far from the normal western world view. None of that has anything to do with the fact that some guys are raping women in the belief (hope) that it will cure them of the skinny.

<But I will confess, science itself is based on the works of magicians from all over the Middle Ages of Europe and the “crazy, wacky” voodoo masters of Africa. Science owes a lot to the magic world. >

Gotta agree with that whole heartedly. Just about every scientific discipline is based on what were once considered esoteric schools of thought and “mysteries”. The term science is thrown about and misused IMHO. What is actually being refered to is the application of the scientific method. Anyone that has read my posts over the last 2 years knows that some of my areas of mastery are in fact “mysteries” & rather esoteric.

I also tend to agree that most (if not all) sicknesses and infections are due to weakened systems. Bad diet, poor mental health, parasitic infestation, etc. Do a search on “zapper for some interesting reading on this topic. Whatever the causes, the tens of millions of Africans dying are in fact dying. At the rate things are going most of south/central Africa will be de populated in the very near future. It is scant comfort to those dying that they might not have gotten sick if they had been healthier to start with.Shall we send councilors over to advise them to clean up their diets? Now THAT would be trying to”prove” how much more civilized the Western World is in many aspects of life.

<That’s why I know there will never be a “cure” for cancer. Outside of contamination by carcinogens, people give cancer to themselves….and with little help from genetic predispositions, negative social & mental environments. >

You could certainly argue that, 70 years ago, they just didn”t know what to look for. Or even that people with cancer back then got killed off by something else due to being weakened. Even so… it is interesting that before our current world of carcinogens, EM generating hi power lines, and a society that seems designed to foster negative mental states and unresolvable stressors cancer was extremely rare.

Thunder wrote:
“Maybe it is not the message that is causing problems, but the way it is delivered.”

Words of wisdom.


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Re: OOPs......BUT

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Originally posted by EnrichedFlow

Also, people should realize that bacteria does not “attack” healthy tissue in general. I believe that it is the health of the host that will determine the course of an “infection.” The more profitable & more popular route in the “civilized world” is to treat medical problems in a rather militaristic way(drugs to kill….suppress…..accentuate….stimulate…… various mechanisms within the body, which is why there are such things as “side effects). The best solution to any problem is not to attack the symptom, but get to the bottom of the problem. Whatever.

While you have a point here - that we tend to overuse drugs and neglect, even ridicule, a more healthy lifestyle - maybe you oversee this:

Once infected you might need some help. To use a simple analogy, if you get fleas you wont get rid of them simply by becoming more aware of your hygien, first you have to kill them.

I´m no expert of fleas so maybe that particual analogy doesn´t hold water, but that is of less importance. It should still paint the picture.

Hey…now I get it. You guys are using that little button that says “quote”


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Hey…now I get it. You guys are using that little button that says “quote”

Haha, better late than never huh ;)

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wow, the trojan magnum XL on that site is 62mm width, this comes out at almost 8” circumferance, so why do guys complain about them being to small. i thought only ulistrech ever had that much girth.

SJA

Magnum XLs are 5.5” circumference. Perhaps that measurment was taken with it laying flat. That doesn’t add up either, but I’ve measured them myself.

I was reading a book last night and in one of the chapters the author discussed condoms, and had them listed including size. On her chart, the Magnums were listed as 55mm wide, but didn’t explain how that measurment was attained. Magnums are 5.25” circumference unstretched.

I went and looked at those websites, they say that the “beyond seven” is 2” wide, while the Magnum XL is 2.53” wide. I have no clue how they get those measurments. Length-wise, all the condoms I measured myself were between 7.5” and 8” long.

And their prices are ridiculous. Walmart has the 12 packs of Magnum XLs for $5.19. Target has the same price, but doesn’t seem to carry the XLs.

MDC is right. WalMart has the best prices.

I’ve talked with a lot of young people about the AIDS issue. Now that AIDS awareness has taken a back seat to other world issues and that drugs are reducing the death rate, young, sexually active people tend to dismiss AIDS and consider it a non-threat to them. Whether this has to do with Youth’s sense of invulnerability or not I can’t say, but the fact is that they are taking chances that older/wiser men and women would not.

This is pretty foolish behavior, even putting AIDS aside. There are mutant strains now of gonorrhea which are nearly intractible even in the presence of modern antibiotics.

There’s a lot of stuff lurking in sexual nooks and crannies these days. It’s foolish to pretend they don’t exist for twenty minutes of sex.


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MDC is right. WalMart has the best prices.

This is pretty foolish behavior, even putting AIDS aside. There are mutant strains now of gonorrhea which are nearly intractible even in the presence of modern antibiotics.

There's a lot of stuff lurking in sexual nooks and crannies these days. It's foolish to pretend they don't exist for twenty minutes of sex.

Hell yah. Throw in syphillis for my folk over in West Hollywood. The fine modern antibiotics are also what have turned hospitals into great breeding grounds for these superbugs. Whatever happened to that story about the hospital in Detroit where a flesh-eating bacteria was up to no good, astonishing a good deal of Physicians nationwide(3 months ago)? Then there’s the superbugs from the corn-fed cattle lots as well. We’re SURROUNDED! UGH.

I’ve gotten most of my “sessual”(see Chris Norton, via the www.philhendrieshow.com) info from Dr. Drew on Loveline, so I know nothing of how most people ignore these safeguards.

Somebody told me the Durex condoms may have a more comfy fit than the Trojan XL mags. Has anyone done a comparison? Damn, I’ll never get laid. Back to dreaming of incubi.

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