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Re: Damaged Prostate Running out of options

Greetings Members,
I am a newbie who is faced with a significant set of problems. Let me start at the beginning. Seven years ago, I had an enlarged prostate microwave reduction procedure that went horribly wrong. Since then, I have had 12 prostate / bladder surgeries to remove growing scar tissue. This continuous growth of scar tissue, and it’s removal, have lead to me having urinary incontinence; total ED; and a retracting penis. I have lost nearly 4 inches in length. I have to wear mens’ pads and a penis restriction ring 24/7.

I have not been able to have an ejaculation since the initial surgery 7 years ago. My urologist has done all that he can. He has offered me a penile implant pump, but there would be additional medical consequences. I also lost one of my testicles due to a benign tumour. Sperm and the other cells in a man’s semen can turn cancerous over a short period of time if not released. My doctor wants to obtain a semen sample from me, allowing him to assess for abnormal cells. At his suggestions, I have tried prostate massages that resulted in more pain. I have tried prostate stimulators, both medical and OTC. I have even tried a stimulator in the shape of a penis. I have tried just about everything. My doctor wants to perform an “electro-ejaculation” on me. This means, I would be under a general anesthetic once again. My last three surgeries were marked by problems coming out of the anaesthetic, resulting in hospitalizations. An electro-ejaculation requires the use of an anal probe that delivers an electrical shock to a man’s prostate. What is left of my prostate will not tolerate another electric-based procedure.

Are there any male members in the Houston, Texas area who have had similar problems ? Any members I could talk to ? Any members that might be able to help me.

Thank you all for reading my post.
Sincerely,
Gregory008
Houston, Texas

P.S. On the Internet, I have gone to many penis and prostate medical sites; medical instruments sites and groups; and, alternative medicine sites and groups. The advice and/or feedback I have received over the years has not helped my situation. I am desperate.

Gregory008

Sorry to hear that.

So, the foremost problem right now is being enable to ejaculate? If retained semen can cause a cancer, maybe there isn’t any other way than avoiding sperm production, through hormonal therapy (I don’t know if this is possible, actually, I’m a total profan on this field).

I hope some member who had similar troubles will chime in helping you.

Thank you for reading my post. I have retrograde ejaculation, so I am told, where if I were to ejaculate, it would go into my bladder. At my doctor’s suggestion I have purchased both medical and OTC prostate stimulators. Nothing has worked. My doctor suggested to me that I consider asking a buddy of mine who has an open mind. I have such a buddy, and he has agreed to it. However, he works at night and sleeps, or tries to, sleep during the day. He and his wife just had their second baby; and they live some distance from Houston. So, it does not look good. This has nothing to do with sex. The goal is to be properly stimulated to the point of ejaculation. Men can ejaculate fluid while flaccid, without ever having an orgasm. It is all in the stimulation. I just can not go under a general anesthetic and have more electric-based prostate stimulation. I am damaged enough. I am just looking for help.

Gregory008

Gregory, there are much simpler methods of electro-ejaculation than undergoing anesthesia.

If sperm cells turned cancerous over a short period of time without release, priests, for one poor example, would be in trouble. Where did you read that bit of information?


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avocet8

I’m not buying any of this !

Want to change places

Copernicus1,

Maybe you would like to change places with me for one day.

Originally Posted by avocet8
Gregory, there are much simpler methods of electro-ejaculation than undergoing anesthesia.

If sperm cells turned cancerous over a short period of time without release, priests, for one poor example, would be in trouble. Where did you read that bit of information?

Yes, that got me to thinking as well. I dug out my old biology texts and they said that after a time, if not released, the sperm simply die, break down, and are reabsorbed into the body.

Never heard of cancerous unused sperm cells and your doctor cant obtain a sample by aspiration ?

Re: Other cells

Capernicus1,
Thanks for your response. You said you pulled out an old Biology book ? Does this text mention that there are other type of cells in a man’s semen than sperm cells. If I stated that I was speaking only of sperm cells, I need to correct that. There are cells in semen that over-time become more primitive. When cells in the body start to change, mutate, become more primitive, the likelihood of these cells becoming cancerous does increase. For the past couple of years, scientist have discovered that they can take a man’s semen and change some of the cells to stem cells. There is an interesting story as to how this was discovered, all by accident. Even more recent biology texts will state that when a man starts to have a PSA test, and one year later has a repeated PSA, the amount of a found difference (I.e., increase in level) is the key factor in detecting prostate cancer. Guess what, about 2 years ago urological researchers found out the above measure was wrong. It is not the amount of increase between one PSA and a follow-up PSA that is important. Rather, it is the “percent change” between these two tests’ levels that is a far more valid and reliable predictor of prostate cancer. Unfortunately, last year, the FDA came out and stated that ” PSA tests were not reliable at detecting prostate cancer.” That “they were more trouble than they are “worth.” The FDA dropped their recommendation for men of a certain age to start PSA tests. It was the giant insurance companies and equally large pharmaceutical conglomerates that pushed this change in the FDA recommendations.

The reason I mention all of this is that our knowledge of how the human body works, and does not work, is forever changing. All I can share with you, and the other members here, is that I have total ED (forget a massage parlor); I have a severely retracting penis; I have urinary incontinence; and, I have not ejaculated, or had an orgasm in many, many years. I can tell when there is something going wrong with my prostate-bladder-urinary system. My doctor verified it, thus his need to examine my semen. I asked my doctor about both aspiration and/or a biopsy. He told me that he would never attempt an aspiration of a man’s testicle, and that insurance companies would not pay for this. Nor will insurance companies pay for a biopsy of the prostate unless certain strict criteria have been met There is also the high probability of complications and infections, which I have had through other procedures. He needs the mix of prostatic fluid, the clear fluid, and the whole semen sample. An electrical bull stimulator is used on bulls to collect their semen, and then used in an attempt to inseminate a cow. Capernicus, I am not a bull.
Gregory008

Avocet8,

Thanks for your response. What simplier methods do you refer to ?

Gregory008

Originally Posted by Gregory008
Avocet8,
Thanks for your response. What simplier methods do you refer to ?
Gregory008

You certainly don’t need anesthesia for this, a fairly wide-spread practice I should think your doc would know about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotic_electrostimulation

I am very, very highly skeptical about any cells in semen (sperm or not) turning cancerous in the absence of ejaculation.


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avocet8

Avocet8,

Electroejaculation is a procedure used to obtain semen samples from sexually mature male mammals. The procedure is applied for breeding programs and research purposes in various species, as well as in the treatment of an ejaculatory dysfunction in human males.

Electroejaculation is usually carried out under a general anesthetic. An electric probe is inserted into the rectum adjacent to the prostate. The probe delivers an AC voltage, usually 12-24 volts sine wave at a frequency of 60 Hz, with a current limited to usually 500 mA, although some devices can generate currents of up to 1 A. The probe is activated for 1-2 seconds, referred to as a stimulus cycle. Ejaculation usually occurs after 2-3 stimulus cycles. Care must be taken when using currents greater than 500 mA, as tissue burns may result due to heating of the probe.[1] The stimulus voltage stimulates nearby nerves, resulting in contraction of the pelvic muscles and ejaculation. This procedure is used frequently with large mammals, particularly bulls and some domestic animals, as well as humans who have certain types of paralysis or erectile dysfunction.

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