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Bulking and ED

Originally Posted by roosterstretch
There are people who have good genes, great diets, get plenty of rest and train well who can gain 5-10 lbs of muscle per months for a couple of months. It’s not common — typically 20 lbs in 2 months is either steroids or largely fat — but it is possible.

I don’t agree either.

Good genes don’t make such a huge difference to say that one could gain naturally like he’s on steroids.

Also regarding ddolphin’s post, in those 20 lbs gained, it’s not necesarlly a great majority of it , fat…but it could also be glycogen,water retention,intestinal content so no need to say that it is something bad.


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

Originally Posted by ddolphin
Everything I read in this thread suggests you are training naturally which I applaud…but I can assure you that if you gained 20lbs in 2months, 18lbs of it was fat. Unless someone is taking some serious drugs, it’s pretty hard to gain 24lbs of muscle in 1 year.

You’re doing incredibly well if you can gain 15lbs of pure muscle in 1 year. I know you are bulking but people get caught up with the reading on the scale and get deluded into thinking they are gaining incredible amounts of muscle when that is not the case.

The best advice I can give you is do your cardio…regularly. You won’t lose muscle with the amount you are eating and it will improve your erection quality big time. You will also keep your fat level in check.

I assure you that atleast 10lbs of it is muscle. I was a back squatter for a while and had turnip thighs(all hams and no quads). I switched to front squatting and built my quads quite nicely. My glutes grew also. I see the muscle results. I been lifting for 5 years I know not to just read the scale. If powerlifters would turn to bodybuilding style squats they could gain about 20 more pounds if they started working their quads too. They use hip drive which is why powerlifters have no quads. Also I am 6’3 and not at my full growth potential as far as bbing goes. So 20lbs isnt that impressive for my height even though I am alredy big and lean. I still can gain more weight in my legs.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75


Last edited by sed26 : 09-26-2011 at .

Originally Posted by ironaddict69
Just to chime in with my .02”

I moved in with a old friend of mine last year, just having him eat more often and powerlift with me he went from 175-200 within about 3 months, and he looked incredible, kept a visible six pack. This is called a mesomorph. I am an ectomorph, and it has taken me 9 years to go from 160-255, and it wasn’t natural after 220 lbs.

Anyway, I think cardio is highly under rated, I am glad I read this thread again and again and saw ddolphins suggestion to do cardio, I need to pick it up myself just for EQ sake. Thanks dude.

I am a mesomorph I believe.

I also neglected to mention in this thread that i was a lightbulb trainer for some time. I hit legs hard and gained 20lbs. Its leg guys..the biggest muscles in your body. Maybe it was closer to 3 months instead of two. Im not a time keeper. Maybe its because I didnt do any cardio. My 6 pack stayed at the same visibility as it was about 20lbs ago. Maybe it was around 17-20lbs. I said ABOUT. Remember im 6’3. My natural weight capacity is far higher than those who ate around 5’6-5’8. So keep that in mind. Your body also can make 1lbs of muscle a week. Since i trained muscles that i never trained before(quads), it must have been as if I were a beginner. Also I started deadlifting at the time.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

No!

But training to much might have that effect. Training can lower you baseline T for days after. If you constantly suppress your T it makes sense you could experience issues. A young guy probably would not notice this. A 30+ guy most likely would.

Originally Posted by sed26

So 20lbs isnt that impressive for my height even though I am alredy big and lean. I still can gain more weight in my legs.

Its waaaaaay beyond whats possible naturally. You’re either on juice or its mostly fat/water.


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Originally Posted by Klayton
Its waaaaaay beyond whats possible naturally. You’re either on juice or its mostly fat/water.

I know what I did and I’m no newb at lifting and gaining. From no quads to decent quads is not mostly fat. I see muscle gain. I know what I’m talking about. It’s not like I’m going SOLELY by the scale. I SEE the difference and that is big for a person my height to see a visual difference.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

I got an increase in EQ. Still not rock solid but it’s a start. Also easier to get an erection. Here is what I did:

-added 15-20 mins walking after workouts. Heart rate above 120 bpm
-eliminated most sweet drinks from my diet. I drink them with only one meal a day now. The rest is with water.
-started drinking cayenne water with garlic 1-2 times a day. (I really think this helped a lot)

Hopefully it will continue to increase as time passes.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

I forgot to add that I took 1-3 sets away from my chest day because it took about 4 days before the soreness went away. So now it heals around day 2 or 3 but intensity is still there. I only do 12 sets for my whole legs now excluding calves. I used to do about 14-15 sets for quads only. I think I may have really been over training and just not knowing it.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

I haven’t pored over every post in this thread, but it seems to me like an overabundance of inferior carbohydrate sources. Cut back on fast-absorbing carbs and scale back total carbs. Choose fruits in moderation, grains, legumes and fibrous vegetables instead (if possible… it’s expensive and time consuming).

Remember, to “bulk,” you only need a modest increase in total calories above your adjusted metabolic rate (basal metabolic rate + energy expenditure through activity) to see results. There’s no need to get sloppy and let your dick get floppy. Hehe.


2/11/11: 7.75" BPEL, 6" BSEG, 5.5" MSEG

6/4/11: 8.4" BPEL, 6.375" BSEG, 5.8" MSEG

Just started again, another new measurement coming soon; I'm pretty close to that June '11 though.

Good one lol So do you agree with bulking as being (bodyweight x 15 + 500 calories)?


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Depends on your body type and how you want to go about this, New school methods preach careful monitoring of bodyfat and controlled low carb days to keep bodyfat down to as little as .5lbs a week to 1lb in more extreme cases. Still there are hybrid methods of losing fat and gaining muscle which can be done with a little know how and without a lot of cardio.

I am a mesomorph with a bit of bodyfat right now so I generally go for (lbm x 11)x 1.4 OR about 13-15 x bodyweight with 2 low carb meals when bulking. I have seen general reccomendations for endos to eat 30-50 grams extra protein a day and keep carbs geared towards around workouts, and ectos to eat a lot more carbs and take in sugary dried fruits and juices along with digestive enzymes and a different style of training from the big boys.

By “extra protein” you mean adding to the 1g of protein for each pound method? I was always lean and very shreded before I lifted weights. So I guess I would qualify as a endo? I just knew how to bulk and over a 5 year of maintanence and occassional bulking phases made it to 240lbs with not much bodyfat. I have a defined 6 pack and obliques when flexing but I never actually measured the bf percentage.

Also I am in college currently and it’s mostly baked chicken, pastas, pizza, turkey burgers that are served here mostly so I’m pretty much as the mercy of the cafeteria. But for the most part they always have some kind of good food choices. But other days the pizza and the turkey burgers are the healthiest things on the menu. But that’s maybe once a week. Not to mention they always have salads and subs but I am bulking and those are good additives but not main course meals of a bulk diet.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Originally Posted by sed26
By “extra protein” you mean adding to the 1g of protein for each pound method? I was always lean and very shreded before I lifted weights. So I guess I would qualify as a endo? I just knew how to bulk and over a 5 year of maintanence and occassional bulking phases made it to 240lbs with not much bodyfat. I have a defined 6 pack and obliques when flexing but I never actually measured the bf percentage.

Also I am in college currently and it’s mostly baked chicken, pastas, pizza, turkey burgers that are served here mostly so I’m pretty much as the mercy of the cafeteria. But for the most part they always have some kind of good food choices. But other days the pizza and the turkey burgers are the healthiest things on the menu. But that’s maybe once a week. Not to mention they always have salads and subs but I am bulking and those are good additives but not main course meals of a bulk diet.

Do they offer fruits, wheat/grain carbs, raw and cooked vegetables, cottage cheese/yogurt, eggs, grilled chicken, beef, turkey and fish? If you can freestyle your meals it would be better than simply taking “what they have” and slapping it on your tray. You should go for 3-4 full plates of food every day comprised of half protein, quarter vegetable/fruit and a quarter of grains or starchy carbs. In between those 3-4 meals, eat snacks that are moderately high in protein and healthy fats to help fill gaps in your schedule and feed your muscles. These snacks can also be in the form of MRP shakes or bars.

Also, as others have said, bulking requires a decent amount of carb intake, but there’s no need to run away with things. Taper your carbs through out the day- more in the morning, virtually none in the evening; and bracket higher carb meals around your workouts for energy and recovery purposes.

You’re the only one that knows how your body responds. We’re simply giving you our 2 cents and loose guidelines derived from empirical and scientific evidence. Roll our advice into a ball, take what you think makes sense and see how your body responds.


2/11/11: 7.75" BPEL, 6" BSEG, 5.5" MSEG

6/4/11: 8.4" BPEL, 6.375" BSEG, 5.8" MSEG

Just started again, another new measurement coming soon; I'm pretty close to that June '11 though.

Sometimes when I workout, lifting heavy weights (at least for me) my penis get little smaller and stiff not like

A boner and then I have to stretch it before pee so it gets to normal flaccid


Start BPEL 5.5 EG 5.2 09-20-2011

GOAL 7x6 - on a 5'5 guy it will look huge

Even when I had rock hard boners during the time I had them I always shriveled before and after workouts.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

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