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Originally Posted by sed26
Do you have any suggestions on a certain type of ZMA I should get? I bought zinc pills a few days ago but they are small dry pills. I would be interested in buying a different type as I know that hard pills aren’t thoroughly digested. It was the only thing I saw at the moment.

I use Optimum Nutrition (ON) ZMA and I think that it’s good quality — it’s gelatin encapsulated and it does make me sleepy.

Originally Posted by sed26
I also take Omega 3’s everyday. I always have those. I forgot to add in that I ALWAYS eat some kind of vegetables at lunch and dinner whether it’s spinach, brussel sprouts, etc. So I always get my fruit and veggies incase you guys were wondering.

The Omega-3s are great, but two servings of veges is way too little. The majority of what you eat (by volume) should be plants (excluding grains). Please do not listen to the food guide pyramid recommendations as they are heavily influenced by food industry lobbyists and aren’t fully based on good science. I have Bachelor’s degrees in nutrition and biology, a Master’s in public health, and a PhD in epidemiology (epidemiology is basically the science of health research and, to be accurate, I’m actually a year away from my PhD in epidemiology) so I know something about this. People do not eat enough fruits and veges and they do not eat enough nuts, seeds, pulses and legumes; they eat way too many grains (especially refined “white” grains) and way too much red meat, processed food, and sweeteners. With a 3000 calorie diet, you should aim for no less than 3 or 4 big handfuls of veges each day, plus a few pieces of fruit.


Starting (May 2010): BPEL:6" EG: 4 7/8". Current (April 2011): BPEL: 6 3/4" EG: 5 1/4".

Short Term Goal: BPEL: 7" EG: 5.25" Long Term Goal: When my wife makes me stop or 8"x6" (whichever comes first)

Originally Posted by roosterstretch
20 minutes 3 times a week is the absolute minimum you need to do to improve cardiovascular health — I would recommend 40 minutes 3 times a week. Doing 40 minutes will probably burn around 300-500 calories, depending on the exercise and intensity. Personally, I think that ski machines, ellipticals, rowing machines, biking and swimming are probably the best. Jumping rope and jogging (either in the real world or on a treadmill) are also great, but tough on the joints for some. Unless you’re taking a spinning class (which I think is a bit on nuts sides but, hey, to each their own) or really keeping an eye on your heart rate via a HR monitor, I think exercise bikes make it too easy to slack off to be reliably effective.

The eliptical machines, rowing machines and HIIT cardio on bike are my favourites for losing fat, can go berzerk on them.

HIIT cardio on bikes also helps build muscle as you get an INSANO pump in your thigs and legs.

Originally Posted by roosterstretch
I use Optimum Nutrition (ON) ZMA and I think that it’s good quality — it’s gelatin encapsulated and it does make me sleepy.

The Omega-3s are great, but two servings of veges is way too little. The majority of what you eat (by volume) should be plants (excluding grains). Please do not listen to the food guide pyramid recommendations as they are heavily influenced by food industry lobbyists and aren’t fully based on good science. I have Bachelor’s degrees in nutrition and biology, a Master’s in public health, and a PhD in epidemiology (epidemiology is basically the science of health research and, to be accurate, I’m actually a year away from my PhD in epidemiology) so I know something about this. People do not eat enough fruits and veges and they do not eat enough nuts, seeds, pulses and legumes; they eat way too many grains (especially refined “white” grains) and way too much red meat, processed food, and sweeteners. With a 3000 calorie diet, you should aim for no less than 3 or 4 big handfuls of veges each day, plus a few pieces of fruit.

You are on the spot regarding veggies and fruits and might I add that the fruit of today don’t contain nearly as much nutrition as they did some years ago, therefore you need even more of it.

What if i want to do HIT cardio for about 10-20 mins? Would that be as good as the 20 minute minimum for cardiovascular health? How fast or hard do i need to walk.


7-20-16: BP: 7.63 NBP 6.75 x 5.75

3-22-17: BP: 8.44 NBP 7.56 x 5.75

Originally Posted by Vikingwhore
the fruit of today don’t contain nearly as much nutrition as they did some years ago, therefore you need even more of it.

Yeah, I’m with you on this. I hate the drive for bigger and bigger fruit at the expense of flavor and nutrition. Who wants an apple the size of a softball that tastes like crap and lacks micronutrients? If you can afford it, then I do think organic produce is typically more nutritious — it’s a shame it’s so damn expensive.


Starting (May 2010): BPEL:6" EG: 4 7/8". Current (April 2011): BPEL: 6 3/4" EG: 5 1/4".

Short Term Goal: BPEL: 7" EG: 5.25" Long Term Goal: When my wife makes me stop or 8"x6" (whichever comes first)

I hear ya rooster, true words.

Originally Posted by sed26
What if i want to do HIT cardio for about 10-20 mins? Would that be as good as the 20 minute minimum for cardiovascular health? How fast or hard do i need to walk.

I can break down a HIT cardio routine that was tested in Japan they called it gerilja-cardio though.

First off this is hard as hell, and you don’t walk fast, you go all out.

12 min total time.( using a bike might be the best as you will have to jump on the treadmill while it is going full speed, risky business, believe me)
4min light warm up, followed by
20sec full intensity hardcore pedaling( remember to turn the force on the ergo-bike up so much that you will barely be able to get the pedals around it should be heavvy)
10sec slow easy pedaling

this 20 sec hardcore, 10 sec lowcore you do for 4 min straight.

Finish with 4 min warm down as you will be PUMPED with blood in your thighs.

Do this 3 times a week, no more as it will be to much stress for your body to handle in the long run.
It is balls deep hard but definitely worth it afterwards.

Broscience overload.


Jelq my boy, jelq like the wind.

You can also of course do this outside running hardcore 20 sec and walking 10 sec.

But remember you must push yourself to the absolute limit of what you can take.

Another way to do it is in a ratio of 2 to 1 for 6 rounds, like 1 min full sprint, 30 sec slow walking 6 rounds total but it takes longer time as you must warm up properly before this and cool down afterwards.

Originally Posted by Klayton
Broscience overload.

You love it. ;)


Running a Massive Co-Front.

Rest. Training hard can depress your Tests levels. Take 2 weeks off and your EQ will come back, or your money back.

Originally Posted by marinera
Rest. Training hard can depress your Tests levels. Take 2 weeks off and your EQ will come back, or your money back.

Agree with this… Could be overtraining. Are you gaining?


B4: 6.875" NBPEL / 7.5" BPEL / 5.75" EG

9/12: ?? NBPEL / 7.75" BPEL / 6" EG

Goal: Coveted 8 x 6

This has already been said therefore the supplements and at his age training four times a wekk, c’mon I don’t think so.

This is coming from a guy who has had his test levels checked every third month for 3 years straight, me.

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