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I would leave DHT alone if I were you it may cause your prostate to enlarge making it harder to pee.


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Originally Posted by stagestop
Hello Evergrowing,

I can see that my level of writing my first letter was not appropriate.

Your tact of trying to increase hormones through enzyme manipulation is quite a challenge. I have never heard of or seen this done in adrenal hormones. I do understand the impatience of youth, and actually in this field, the impatience is almost a universal constant. HOWEVER, increasing T at your age does have risks. I have spoken with a couple of young men who were body builders and who engaged in heavy steroid use. One was 16 years old, the other 17. They both ended up with HPTA shutdown. One was able to eventually recover. The other seems to have permanently affected his own ability to produce T and will most likely be on T supplementation for the rest of his life. To be sure, both used a considerable amount of “juice” but the cost to their bodies was high.

As to the thought about using DHT alone for penis enhancement, I think that it could have some value to you, in combination with a more conventional program such as is offered here for newbies.

Right sir, but you should know we’re not talking about pro-hormones/anabolic steroids here. These are substances ought to be taken seriously and not to be tampered with. I defintely agree with you on that. Pro-hormones are dose dependent as prolonged usage causes the body to irreversibly shut-down natural testosterone production. Above all, the end result leads to a testicular shrinkage and liver/kidney damage. Alot of side-effects and considering the disadvantages I conclude, is a completely useless drug. Which I most certainly will refrain from.

Originally Posted by stagestop
To do this with enzyme modification seems an impossibility to me. So, looking at what you could actually purchase, we come back to DHT.

I am not suggesting large amounts of DHT use either, but since the transdermal creme can be applied to your penis, at least you can put the DHT where it will be effective, and by so doing not risk that dangers of a higher dosage systemically. The product that fits this need is Andractim. It comes in a 2.5 or 5% mix, with the 2.5% being what you could obtain on line. Andractim comes in 80 gram tubes, similar to toothpaste tubes. A very small amount, such as a drop about 3/8” across should be more than enough to get you started. Later, if you need more, you can do so. Rub it in all along the penis. Andractim has an alcohol based transdermal carrier. Occasionally, it will burn when applied. This is caused by poor mixing, or separation of part of the alcohol. This will usually, only happen for the first time or two that you use the tube. The “burning” may be better described as an alcohol sting, and it goes away in a few minutes. There is no damage to the skin from this sensation.

Topical testosterone cream?… I am familiar with these. I am trying to find a local online pharmacy that will accept cash-on-delivery. I don’t have a credit card account, which is what most if not all suppliers will accept as payment. Hopefully when I go check a general practioner, and ask for it he will willingly prescribe me one, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by stagestop
When you use DHT, you will notice a change in your libido. Since age 18 is considered the usual time for men to have their highest amount of libido, this may be more than distracting.

I very much doubt that using DHT alone will cause growth, even though it has done so for younger boys, and is the course of treatment for micro penis conditions. These actions are done on boys that are much, much younger than you, and done a much higher dosages that what I am suggesting.

The experiments are done on younger boys suffering from micropenis(a.k.a god damned 2.5inched stiffies!, its silly how medical literature only acknowledges significantly small penises a problem), as they make ideal subjects(no interference of natural testosterone).

Originally Posted by stagestop
But perhaps this will give you piece of mind later in life that you did not miss your great chance to grow.

That is exactly how I feel. Regretting not having a chance to change for the better while the time wass right, would be just awful… and I don’t want to have to experience such a feeling. Which is why I want to make this happen and do it right.

Originally Posted by stagestop
Best of luck,

Stage

Thank you so much sir. I greatly appreciate for responding,

Evergrowing.

Originally Posted by kingpole
I would leave DHT alone if I were you it may cause your prostate to enlarge making it harder to pee.

Benign enlarged prostate, is an extreme case. Just like balding there are obvious signs. If it is progressive, one can stop before it becomes severe.

The newbie routine is sufficient in growing you a nice big penis. What are your current stats?


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Originally Posted by kingpole
The newbie routine is sufficient in growing you a nice big penis. What are your current stats?

I humbly request that we please do not discourse from the aim of the thread.

ps: I noticed that, that was your 7K post by the way, congrats on that.

While DHT may be the main cause of growth during puberty it alone will not be sufficient afterwards. Why bother increasing 5ar when you can obtain DHT. Relying on conversion of test to DHT will result in a small amount of DHT maybe a few ng/dl. Thus it’s far easier to use an exogenous source of DHT. European markets offer DHT cream, although I have no idea what for. Many have tried this with no results. And bodybuilders who use steroids, particularly test esters should have quite a bit of dht conversion. Yet no exhibited growth in penile tissues. What happens is there’s a down regulation of androgen receptors in penile tissues in response to androgens. So even if DHT is exhibiting growth in pre pubertal boys it does not mean they will grow beyond what they would have if they waited for puberty. In essence it’s jsut starting puberty early so they may be bigger for their age bracket but that’s about it. So what we need to accomplish is up regulation of AR in penile tissues, especially in response to androgens. Irtonically enough this is what occurs in the prostate and why hypertrophy is quite easy and may eventually lead to cancer. If it was more like penile tissue then we wouldn’t have to worry about benign prostate hypertrophy or even cancer.

You need to find a way to upgrade the androgen receptors in the penis if you want to experience post-puberty growth from DHT.

That would be quite a trick. How do you propose to do that BZ?

Originally Posted by sunshinekid
DHT also makes your hair fall out, its one of the reasons you guys go bald. I’d think you’d want a bigger dick with a head full of hair.

Tis true Sun but he could always use a miconazole cream on his scalp to counteract the extra DHT. He’ll get accelerated hair growth with the miconazole.

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com…?t=68526&page=4

Originally Posted by Aeris
Tis true Sun but he could always use a miconazole cream on his scalp to counteract the extra DHT. He’ll get accelerated hair growth with the miconazole.

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com…?t=68526&page=4


I checked out the link that you provided. It was interesting.

I didn’t see hair growth cited on the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miconazole) or the Medline page (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/…er/a601203.html) as an effect or side effect of miconazole.

And, of course, that would do nothing about any unwanted prostate growth that the DHT promoted.


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Hey this is a really interesting thread. When I was 19-22 I done a lot of bodybuilding, bulking diets (4-5000cals, 7 meals a day) but no supps except ZMA. I put on loads of muscle and strength and I my sex drive was through the roof and dick big and pumped, realy high erections but I got really really bad acne and cysts and by the time I was bout 21/22 I noticed I was loosing shitloads of hair and balding. This freaked me out so I quit everything and ended up looking at ways to prevent hair loss. Started eating low calorie healthy food and cut out the weights and took supplements meant to reduce DHt etc. Well I lost all my muscle and strength and became really weak and depressed, my erections were smaller, sex drive very low and acne hugely improved. 2/3 years later my hair is thicker and in better condition than it was then but at what price????? So, for the last 6 months or so I’ve been trying my best to put on a bit more weight and increase sex drive. It’s working but not the same as it was before. AND I’m not wiling to commit ot the same level of bodybuilding and dieting as before as I don;t want to be bald and covered in acne BUT this must proves to me that perhaps DHT or Testosterone (or both) does make the penis stronger and bigger though it could just be making it stronger in turn making it bigger??? Ah well, DHT it’s great but also evil

Originally Posted by westla90069

That would be quite a trick. How do you propose to do that BZ?

No good ideas. I’ve read on here of a program involving 6 months of propecia and rest from PE and then stopping cold turkey while starting up PE again. There were gains, but it seems ineffective and I don’t want to upregulate androgen receptors in my scalp and destroy my hair.

I have heard of that andractim dunno if its real.


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