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Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

I’ve tried just about everything. Nothing notable. Guess not genetically built to blow huge loads. Pygeum just makes me drip like crazy. I take sunflower lecithin daily, I do ZMA, tongkat and maca. I take all of these for reasons other than load size. I’m in very good shape (sub 10% bf) and carry a significant amount of muscle and generally very healthy. I can have great sex 6-8 times a day (and do on a regular basis) - just the loads never go beyond 2-3 ropes. Maybe the problem is that I’m having too much sex :)


Starting stats 02/13/2013: BPEL 6-3/4" and EG 4-1/4"

Now: BPEL 7-1/8" MSEG 5-1/2" (permanent gains)

Could be too much sex and not enough water consumption

Originally Posted by BPTony
Could be too much sex and not enough water consumption

I drink 1-1/2 gallons of h2o.per day, it’s a pita because you’re peeing literally twice an hour. And just to be clear the 6-8 times a day is maybe once a week. I do however have a good woman that keeps my balls empty at least once daily, we might skip a day if we’re particularly tired or sick.


Starting stats 02/13/2013: BPEL 6-3/4" and EG 4-1/4"

Now: BPEL 7-1/8" MSEG 5-1/2" (permanent gains)

Originally Posted by jcl911

I drink 1-1/2 gallons of h2o.per day, it’s a pita because you’re peeing literally twice an hour. And just to be clear the 6-8 times a day is maybe once a week. I do however have a good woman that keeps my balls empty at least once daily, we might skip a day if we’re particularly tired or sick.

Good water intake. Nice to have a woman who will allow that much sex.. lol

Originally Posted by Enigmatize
And I have discovered the holy grail of orgasms.

The Cum Holy Grail
(1) L-Arginine, 1000mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1000mg
(2) Zinc, 50mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 50mg
(3) Pygeum, 100mg Strength, Taken 2 times daily = 200mg
(4) Lecithin, 1200mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1200mg

As a side note: After being on Pygeum for 5 straight weeks now, I leak pre-cum like a damn faucet. This stuff definitely activates the Cowper’s gland.

Agreed to the pygeum.

Lecithin and Zinc seem to be awesome for the more solid part of the jizz. L-Arg is great for lifting anyways. :)

Again another warning for those with HSV L-Arginine can cause a break out.


Starting stats 02/13/2013: BPEL 6-3/4" and EG 4-1/4"

Now: BPEL 7-1/8" MSEG 5-1/2" (permanent gains)

Just take L-Lysine to control HSV breakouts


Was - NBPEL 6.5" BPEL 7.5" MSEG 5.5" Now - NPBEL 8.1" BPEL 8.7" MSEG 6.3"

Good morning!

Stumbled across this a week back, read my way through a bit and ordered :
Zinc 50mg tablet
Lecithin 1200mg gel capsules
Oregon’s Wild Harvest, Saw Palmetto Pygeum with Pygeum bark 160mg & Organic Saw Palmetto berry 500mg

Just wondering, starting out should I follow the guide on the first page? Or will results be better by increasing the amounts taken?

Taking 12gm lecithin daily half in the morning and other half at night, also eating some pumpkin seeds. I take 5gm arginine morning and night, no break outs, but also take 500mg lysine twice daily too. D aspartic acid 3gm each morning, cycle it 3 weeks on one week off. pygeum 1 x 500mg daily. citruling 2gm morning and evening, ornathine 2gm morning and evening. fenugreek 2gm evenings only, Epimedium 2gm twice daily, maca 3 x 500mg twice daily, last night I took 5gm, morning wood was extreme. pine pollen 2gm twice daily. Coleus foskholi 2 x 500mg twice daily to assist with weight loss. That’s about it. My cum load are incredible. The orgasm intensity is amazing and shooting power is strong, If I masturbate it usually squirts about 6 or 7 good shots approx 1 mt or 3ft. I can often go a second round using my cum as lube.

Water consumption definitely affects volume so I consume at least 2 to 3 ltr per day.


Last edited by firegoat : 05-16-2015 at . Reason: Punctuation. Capitalization.

Originally Posted by jcl911

I’ve tried just about everything. Nothing notable. Guess not genetically built to blow huge loads. Pygeum just makes me drip like crazy. I take sunflower lecithin daily, I do ZMA, tongkat and maca. I take all of these for reasons other than load size. I’m in very good shape (sub 10% bf) and carry a significant amount of muscle and generally very healthy. I can have great sex 6-8 times a day (and do on a regular basis) - just the loads never go beyond 2-3 ropes. Maybe the problem is that I’m having too much sex :)

3 litres of water every day. Sex every other day. Continue taking what you are taking. Add some green tea and pommegranate natural juice. Talk about cum volume after this. If you are in body building NEVER underestimate water power.

Saw Palmetto

<Series of expliteves>!!

I had been taking vitamins with Saw Palmetto in them and even occasionally a SP supplement. I just read today that Saw Palmetto blocks the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT! That’s how it shrinks the prostate (and your dick, apparently.)

So I look up DHT’s link to semen and lookie here:
“Semen analyses were performed in nine male pseudohermaphrodites with inherited 5 alpha-reductase-2 deficiency and decreased dihydrotestosterone (DHT) production. The semen samples were characterized by extremely low volume (range, < 0.05 to 1.0 mL), increased viscosity, and poor liquefaction.”

In other words low DHT appears to result in low semen volume.

I’m taking everything I can to boost my load while at the same time killing it.

So gentlemen. I know that no one here ever said to take Saw Palmetto but I just wanted to let you now that you should steer clear of it or products containing it as it messes with your hormone balance in more that one way. For one thing it raises free testisterone that can’t convert to DHT so it eventually becomes estrogen.

Just a heads up.

The short answer is no. I don’t know how to increase DHT, but I don’t think you want to. I don’t think increasing DHT will result in bigger loads. Only the opposite which is reduction of and blocking DHT receptors results in smaller loads. So I don’t think you need to increase it. Just don’t block it’s production and receptors with Saw Palmetto or similar blocking drug.
I think the best thing to do is let your body produce the natural amounts.
I do take a little DHEA which is the prehormone to testosterone. This gives the body what it needs to produce as much testosterone as it wants. That testosterone will end up used, as estrogen, or DHT. Testosterone gets converted by the enzyme “5-alpha reductase” so I guess you need to boost that enzyme to convert free testosterone to DHT. I don’t know anything about how that enzyme is naturally created or what regulates it (yet.)

So I guess the answer is we look at whatever you should take to support normal production of “5-alpha reductase” enzyme so that you’re not deficient, and let your body naturally regulate it. I don’t know yet what that would be. It may be as simple as vitamins or amino acids to support it.

I’m kind of bent out of shape about Saw Palmetto. It’s in a lot of products.
Also was taking GNC Mega Man Prostate & Virility because it seemed like a great “base” vitamin. It’s basically a multivitamin with extra Zinc and 6 other ingredients 3 for virility (Horny goat weed, Maca, yohimbe,) and 3 for prostate (saw, pumpkin seed, and pygeum.) It’s all great except for the Saw Palmetto IMO.
These companies are out there marketing it as a sexual health product. In fairness reducing BPH (enlarged prostate) helps some guys with ED due to BPH. It does so by essentially reducing DHT as well as blocking the DHT receptors which has been incorrectly written off as a useless hormone with only negative affects past puberty. However, DHT may be very important to your actual sexual health and performance. Furthermore it throws off the hormone balance feedback loop (of testosterone and estrogen!) M@THRF!@R!!

Furthermore this page actually lists Saw Palmetto as something to increase loads!
http://www.increasespermvolume.com/…er-sperm-loads/
I’d say everything else on that list is likely to help except Saw Palmetto.

More about DHT: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/reform8.htm and http://dhtmyth.com/ Of course Google about DHT and you’ll find plenty. Also Google
Also: http://www.mikemahler.com/online-li…-androgens.html
Yahoo answers is by far the worst source of info in general, but this is a good post about Saw Palmetto and this guy ripped his text directly from a good source:
Https://answers.yahoo.com/question/…17072631AAyC1Pk
He also links a great image of the hormone pathways which was educational to me:
http://3.BP.blogspot.com/_eFo2m_ces…al+hormones.jpg

I caution against messing with DHT at all. The higher levels of DHT signal the body to produce *less* testosterone (because there is apparently enough/too much.) Conversely blocking DHT actually blocks this feedback loop and your body will produce more testosterone. If that testosterone isn’t used (by working out, or whatever) then it’s free testosterone that can result in higher conversion to estrogen which you don’t want.

I looked into estrogen blockers. Those don’t block the production of estrogen, they just block the receptors. It’s possible that blocking the receptors means that free estrogen levels remain higher (unused) so the body may convert less testosterone to estrogen. Excess testosterone may end up as DHT instead in this case. I only speculate that because the side effects of blocking estrogen are suspiciously similar to the side affects of what DHT causes (acne, male baldness, prostate enlargement & cancer.)
But I don’t know that for sure. Blocking estrogen could tell the body to produce less testosterone (I don’t know,) and that doesn’t mean more enzymes will convert to DHT (I don’t know.) Hormone balancing is apparently very tricky and as soon as you manipulate one, you’re throwing off another. As I mentioned I take a small amount of DHEA which is kind of risky because it’s manipulating hormones. But I’m almost 45 and the level I’m taking is supposed to be well within the range of what I’ve lost with age. I should get tested by a doctor to know, but it’s pretty safe to say I can take what I am. I had hoped it would support testosterone and thus labito and semen.

There is some indication that giving men DHT directly (instead of testosterone) can be more effective than testosterone therapy because DHT is 2.4 times more potent than testosterone. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC507713/
I’m still confused as to whether DHT and testosterone can both work on DHT receptors (just testosterone less effectively). Or do you really need DHT for certain functions?

I’m admittedly not an expert on this and my info and conclusions may not be accurate. I encourage people to do their own research.
I just wanted to raise the alarm bell on this study that DHT blocking reduced in significantly reduced semen volume.

For the record, I have been taking the holy grail and a lot more as well as a lot of water and have seen a *reduction* in semen. I have been mystified as to why I’m producing less when I’m taking more supplements.
I’m eliminating Saw Palmetto as of today so we’ll see if there’s a change in the next few days (I hope there is.)
Before I was 35, especially in my 20’s had huge loads. I took it for granted and never knew it was anything special until a girlfriend that comment about how unusually huge my loads were. They say one teaspoon is the max end of the range but I swear it seemed like more than that (probably just my vivid imagination and fantasy memory, LOL!) Now in my 40’s, they are much smaller (bummer) and I’ve just been trying to help in whatever way I can to increase them.

One final thing (unrelated.) I found this in the comments section of a post about how there’s no way to increase loads with supplements:
Of course there is scientific evidence (placebo-controlled clinical trials) to support increasing semen volume using nutritional and herbal supplements: for example:
* L-carnitine significantly increased the semen volume (P = .001) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20845296
* Chinese herbal increased sperm volume by 18%
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18817353
*NAC had significant improving effects on the volume..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19428083
* Combination of l-arginine aspartate and Pycnogenol (Prelox) Treatment with Prelox increased significantly the semen volume
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19142978


Last edited by WhiteNoise309 : 05-29-2015 at .
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