Does L Arginine really helps for bigger flaccid?

I started L-Arginine 5 days ago and have since experienced an increase in erection frequency. The more erections I get daily, the bigger my flacid hang. So to answer your question from my experience, maybe.

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My L-Arginine supplementation is an informal experiment that I would not even mention if I were not keeping a log. So far, supplementation correlates to an increase in erection frequency.

Even the more formal literature I examined corroborates my initial self-reported findings. A meta analysis by the University of Michigan reports that “L-arginine supplementation has been shown to increase blood flow in healthy individuals at rest” [1]. Even the US National Institute of Health reports its “possible effectiveness” for increasing sexual function in men [2].

BigBootyFan suggested that I should cycle the supplement, but I’m skeptical (respectfully) about the need. Nowhere did I find any reference to the body’s adaptation to L-Arginine which would necessitate cycling the supplement. Does that mean that the self-reported evidence on ThundersPlace suggests L-Arginine’s effectiveness in increasing sexual function diminishes with time?

[1]http://www.umich.edu/~medfit/supplementation/NO.html
[2]Https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/natural/875.html

How much l arginine are you taking and what brand?

Here’s q&a from some doctors:

https://www.hea lthtap.com/topi … rginine-cycling

This forum links some studies:
cycling l-arginine - Bodybuilding.com Forums

Every person’s body is different and what works for one person will probably work differently (if at all) for another. Do your diligence and research, ensure that you do not have any conditions contraindicating L-Arginine supplementation, and do not take conflicting medications or supplements as outlined on the NIH’s website.

That said, I take 3000 to 4000 mg a day spaced out, Rite Aid brand.

The first study on the bodybuilding website [1] lists L-Arginine tolerance as a possible reason to explain disagreement between their study and other studies. Quote: "The discordance between the results of the present study and those of previous work might be explained by the fact that the present study was of longer duration. Perhaps counterregulatory mechanisms are activated in response to prolonged administration of the NO precursor." This was not an experimental result, just a hypothesis proposed at the end of an experiment to try to explain their findings.

The second study [2] relates the findings of intravenous administration of L-Arginine, not oral administration. This study found increase in serum prolactin after injection of L-Arginine which began to subside as soon as injection stopped, and tapered off over the next 60 minutes. I can’t begin to guess how this relates to oral administration.

Overall, the first article suggests tolerance buildup, but does not try to prove it. Regardless, it indirectly suggests the importance of cycling supplements. Thanks BigBootyFan!

[1] l-Arginine Supplementation in Peripheral Arterial Disease | Circulation
[2] http://press.en docrine.org/doi … 0/jcem-42-1-148

L Arginine comes in pill form? Always used it as a powder.

Yes it does.

So you are not supposed to use it for a long time?

I started taking Arginine about three weeks ago. I have more random erections that are harder. My EQ is about a 9 most of the time. My flaccid has been hanging pretty heavy as well.

Oh and the reason I started taking it was for a better pump at the gym. That is another plus. I’d say I’m a fan. I think I will cycle off once a month for about week.

Does L-arginine and Calcium arginine chelate have much difference in relation to vasodilation?

I’ve had good results from using L Citrulline I know it ultimately converts into arginine. But I find Citrulline is longer lasting then arginine

I believe that you’d be better off taking l-citrulline or even citrulline malate if you’re also interested in better muscle endurance. There are tons of videos on YouTube; some bro-sciencey, others, not so much, in favor of citrulline over arginine. The main argument is that since citrulline is a precursor to arginine, you’ll get more arginine being assimilated into your blood stream, unless you plan on directly injecting arginine into your bloodstream. More arginine in your blood->more NO->more vasodilation->more blood can flow through arteries. Be sure to maintain a good amount of vitamin c as well because you wouldn’t want your NO to be converted into nitrosamine

Preventive action of vitamin C on nitrosamine formation - PubMed

Here is my theory. When you read bodybuilding forums, some people say some pre-workout NO boost formula works great, and others say it doesn’t. I think that the reason some work for some and not others has to do with their own NO levels and workout routines… you can deplete a lot of your natural NO during anaerobic workout. If so, adding NO may just get you from feeling like crap to just feeling normal, because you are so low in NO due to depletion. People generally don’t bother testing their NO levels - bodybuilders care about hormones, not NO levels, so they don’t really think to ask if they are depleted or not.

Alternatively, it could be people with high NO don’t feel an extra boost from NO supplements because the ingredients are not getting activated because all available receptors are taken naturally.

Now, in terms of the chemical reaction, calcium chelated arginine will have a slower reaction time. Calcium is often added to supplements. I take a supplement called SlowMag which was literally just the combination of Magnesium Chloride with Calcium, as opposed to traditional Magnesium Oxide. However, this SlowMag supplement saves peoples lives who suffer from disease related to inability to store magnesium.

L-Citrulline malate actually works best in conjunction with L-Arginine, by deactivating arginase which inhibits arginine. L-Citrulline malate is great booster for ATP fuel, too.

The point is, what something converts into means nothing. Sometimes it can have a harmonious effect to have both at the same time. Or even a negative effect, but in this case its positive. Just remember if you have herpes you need to take l-leucine too.

Here is a good article worth reading, well-written and easy for the layman to read: http://circ.aha journals.org/co … ent/101/18/2126

Dummying it down further, what it is essentially saying is NO supplements - no matter which one you take - are in some sense able to compensate for diseased blood vessels due to years of NO neglect. PE could in fact cause blood vessel damage - ergo, adding arginine may be counteracting any disease effects PE has.

Thanks for the answers