Are ligament gains False Gains?

So sometime back, I read a post a veteran on thundersplace(ModestoMan I guess) saying that ligament gains are pointless.

Basically when you stretch or hang downwards, your penis keeps on shifting lower and lower on the pubic bone. So when you measure BPEL, you’d be able to push the ruler inside even more. Which is basically the logic behind lig gains.

So is there really any point in downward stretches/ newbie routine/hanging besides slightly better EQ?

**I just want NBPEL gains. 🥲**

BPEL gains more often than not, translates into NBPEL gains.

More dick is more dick. I guess it depends on how you define real gains. Some guys pump for temporary expansion before sex and are fine with that. Some put in a lot of time and effort for more permanent length and girth increases. It’s all about what you want and how to get it, not what someone else thinks.

That’s not what lig gains are and that’s not how you measure BPEL

Care to explain in detail please?

I just want to understand the science behind ligament gains because the theory I put in my post seems logical to me and I’ve personally experienced this as well.

Search lig gains. There’s literally dozens of threads on here that will explain better than I can.

For measuring: How to Measure Your Penis

There is no definitive science on this. You need to research as much as you can and work through trial and error for your own experience.

As mentioned, there are lots of threads on this topic.