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Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

Vacuum Pumping when you have ED; the short version, according to Avocet8

This piece isn’t about getting size gains, although they may happen along the way. It’s about getting sexual function back when you’ve lost your erectile response – either all of it or a degree of it and in a routine that doesn’t take all that much time a day.

Before ED your cock and your brain were in pretty much perfect synch. You saw and/or felt some sort of sexual stimulation and an erection or a “chubby” was not long to follow. This was because all the chemical combinations needed for an erection were in place and working and your smooth muscle tissue relaxed and the blood flowed in. You had good arterial and venous flow, your nerve endings were firing nicely; no impediments.

But you got diabetes, or you developed vascular insufficiency or venous leakage, or you took some needed medication that interfered with sex, or you got older or heavier or had an injury or surgical trauma, or your life went into stress-overload, or you smoked too much or you drank too much. The causes of ED add up to a laundry list.

But any of the reasons, or a combination of them, result in poor erections, or no erections, and the downside of that is you hardly use your penis anymore except to pee. You are not using your cock for sex with a partner or by yourself. You’ve become afraid to have sex and so you avoid opportunities and you don’t even get the benefit of semi-erections very often. Most of the time your cock is limp, with just enough blood going in to keep its tissues alive.

One of the reasons that your sexual response was good for so long is that you had a healthy pattern of nocturnal erections, whether you were aware of them occurring or not. Normal men without ED have 4 - 6 erections a night during the REM stage of sleep, each lasting about a half hour. That accumulates to 2 - 3 hrs a night of hard-ons. That’s a lot of erection time. The purpose of having nocturnal erections is purely a “housekeeping” function. Blood pours in, cleans out the gunk and accumulated flotsam in your arteries and veins that occurs while you are flaccid. This newly-oxygenated blood also feeds penile tissue. When nocturnal erections stop, so does the “housekeeping” and the intense oxygenation you used to get during the night.

A similar effect occurs in sexual and random situations. When you were younger you popped random boners at various times during the day, even sometimes when you didn’t want one. Now, not only are you not getting the nocturnal workout you used to, but you’re not getting the random ones anymore, and you’re probably not having sex as often as you did before, if you are having sex at all. It makes sense that your reproductive stuff is not real healthy. Your penis isn’t getting any exercise.

Using vacuum pumping while having ED you want to duplicate, on a smaller scale but effective scale, the same housecleaning and housekeeping you used to get from random erections, sexual ones, and the nocturnal erection pattern you once had.

One productive thing you can do is a series of mini-pumps, the object being to mimic those old patterns. To best accomplish this, make your vacuum pumped erections last only about 5 minutes each but do a bunch of them, just as happened nearly every night when you were “normal.” Pump at the lowest vacuum pressure that works. 3 – 5 HG is good. A little more HG pressure is OK, but only if you can tolerate that. Be as gentle as possible, though, remembering that it is not necessary that you get a cat-scratching post while in the tube. Any level of increased engorgement indicates blood flow and blood flow in brings oxygen in. You want oxygenated blood going in, a lot more than it has been since you got ED.

Allow the erection from the first 5 minute pump to subside and then start all over from first base. Blood pours in again, does its tissue oxygenation and its cleaning of your vessels. Allow the second erection to subside, then start yet again working up to 4 - 6 individual pumps per session, each giving you an erection, or a partial, in the tube. A partial is just fine for this purpose. After a few months of regular workouts – REGULAR being the key take-home word here (say 5 days a week, even 6) - and you will have gone a very long way toward rejuvenating your penile vascular/nerve system.

Nocturnal erections may begin to resume on their own, with sexual erections happening faster and lasting longer. You will probably find, if you use them, that lower doses of the erectile drugs you used to use will work just as well as the amount you took before. If you have ED and you are not using the erectile drugs on a regular basis, consider doing so, if your health condition allows that. There is a theory espoused by many urologists that goes: The more erections you have, the more you will have in the future.

You can start your pumping when flaccid, or semi-hard, or hard; whatever you can manage. It doesn’t matter: Your pumping workouts will be just as productive. This is all about getting oxygenated blood in again, and on a regular basis.

Pumping is not a perfect solution to ED but it sure can help in many cases of ED. If you try vacuum pumping, consider doing it on a mini-scale of what nature used to do.

And try to get off that charging horse attitude of I Want Sex Now! Instead, build toward a possible future of sex “now” and you just may get it.


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avocet8

Awesome article, avocet8! Very clear and concise. My ED is a lot better since starting PEing a couple of years ago. Thanks to you and the other guys who give us so much help.


:_pump: :donatecar

Another fantastic article of master avocet. Just keep them coming!

;)


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2007: BPEL: 5.1 / MSEG: 4.5 / 2008: BPEL: 6.5 / MSEG: 4.8

I think it\'s amazing, the way that love can set you free...

Thanks, avocet8, for a very informative description explaining this.


Stats: (10/24/04) : BPEL-7.25", EG-5.5" (01/22/07) : BPEL-7.6", EG-5.6" after 1 year of maintenance

Goal: 8.5" L x 6.5" G

Awesome post/idea.

I think that this method could also be used for men who have suffered/suffer from chronic injuries and want a sort of active recovery while taking a break(if they are on break).

Avocet8, do you think adding heat to the equation would increase the effectiveness of the pumping for ED? And in which way should heat be applied(wrapped around tube, before/after).

Heat wouldn’t hurt in any way unless it were hot; and might help a lot. Either a warm wrap before (warm, wet cloths, or rice sock) or a wrap around the tube. Many guys, including me, believe that heat encourages cell division.

Say you have diabetes and you have some nerve damage? heat and newly-oxygenated blood entry would encourage nerve regrowth and repair.

And, what’s wrong with getting bigger while you work on your ED?


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avocet8

I have a whole new appreciation for morning wood, now that I’m educated. Thanks, avocet8 :up:


:_pump: :donatecar

Awesome article Avocet. I’m one of the many you’ve helped and I’m very thankful for this.

My only question is why do you say it’s better to keep the pumped erections for only 5 mins if natural nocturnal erections last for 30 mins? Is it because the blood that gets pumped in the penis doesn’t circulate very well while the pump is on? Would it be a good idea to maintain the pumped erections for 10-15 mins?

Originally Posted by powpow

My only question is why do you say it’s better to keep the pumped erections for only 5 mins if natural nocturnal erections last for 30 mins? Is it because the blood that gets pumped in the penis doesn’t circulate very well while the pump is on? Would it be a good idea to maintain the pumped erections for 10-15 mins?

It’s because a little works as well as a lot, in the beginning, when it comes to ED. Later, as you rebuild your penile vascular system, erections will happen more frequently, like they used to if you do some other stuff to treat your ED. Then you can adjust your program to longer pump sessions, if you want.

When you have a whole erection or a partial in the tube, your cock is being flooded with blood; yes, even with a partial.

You have to start somewhere when erections don’t happen. “Somewhere” is getting some blood moving in there.

During sleep, when you are in parasympathetic-mode control , you don’t have, yourself, control over the duration of an REM erection. In the tube you do and, because of the rapid way blood works its way through the body from lungs to heart and back to organs and back again, you can be assured that you are getting good oxygenation, even in that short, 5 min. time.


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avocet8

Great, concise, informative, and helpful article.


Forum Guidelines PAST: 5.25"L x 4.75"G (base),EBP (January 2001) / PRESENT: 7.50"L x 7.00G (base),EBP It doesn't happen overnight! Commitment! Focus! Patience!/ Main Routine = Pumping/Jelqing/clamping + Homedic TheraP or ACE Wrap TheraP or ACE Wrap

Nice work! I won’t question it because A. You are one of the main “go to” guys when it comes to pumping and B. The workout is very mild, conservative and is seems very safe. Thanks for taking the time to post that. You know, if one has the time, I’ll bet that would be a good workout for anybody whether they have ED or not. :)


Gut Scramblin' goodness.

Originally Posted by Gut Scrambler
You know, if one has the time, I’ll bet that would be a good workout for anybody whether they have ED or not. :)

Probably would! A number of the pumping vets here have been promoting shorter sessions at lower HG in order to encourage gains, for years


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avocet8

Avocet8, You’ve done it again. Great post. Not too bogged down in technical jargon. Clear, and brief, but very informative. I, along with many others here consider you to be the authority on pumping, so I am certainly going to give this a try. Thanks again for taking the time to share your wisdom with the rest of us.

Originally Posted by chainz 8
I, along with many others here consider you to be the authority on pumping…

Not to jerk your chain, chainz, but other vets here know just as much as I. You can trust what they say. They’ve been at this at least as long as I; and don’t forget, some of them for longer because I pretty much quit after I got to where I wanted to be and they’ve kept going.


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avocet8

Appreciate your advise Avocet,,,here & on the newsgroups. I tend to respect your opinions.

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