Packing Tube Time

How long is your pump session? I started out pumping flaccid with 10 minute sets for a total of 20 - 30 minutes per session. When I modified it to erect pumping and longer sets, I began packing the glass.

Right now it takes me 40-50 minutes to pack the glass (9” x 2”). Nothing shorter will do for complete pack. This can be 2 x 20 minutes or 1 x 20 and 1 x 30 minutes.

I have only had the 2” pump a few weeks. I was doing about an hour, got a few two hour sets in last week and three hours over one day.

Saw some nice expansion in the tube, and was moving up the pack slowly.

I just think a 1.75” is where I should be right now at least when I am taking a break from the LongJohnny.

I would have bought a 1.75” if I could have found one of the shelf, I have been enjoying the 2”, so much so that I got the smaller one, if things go as they should I will be packing the 2” eventually.
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I don’t know how you guys can pump any longer than 30 minutes, & get nothing but a shitload of edema.

When I started pumping 3 years ago, I gradually worked up to 30 minute sessions. I liked the feeling of a thick & heavy dick, but it was all fluid.

For about the last year and a half, I started splitting up my sessions, like 3-10 minutes, or 3-12, 2-15 etc. Also, most of the time, clamping in between sets. Much less edema for me that way, but unfortunately gained absolutely 0 meg.

Thus the reason I’m on my first decon. I’ve always heard here at thunders, edema is the enemy of permanent gains. So I figured out a way to get good expansion, with much less edema, and nothing.

So hopefully this decon will change that. I feel confident it will. I’m almost half way through it. Lost a tiny bit of meg, no bpel loss. For some reason, I think my nbpfl is bigger than ever! Which is great!

Sorry to ramble/get off topic, just throwing my 2 cents in.

I initially had red spots and edema too. While beginning I used too much pressure and went too long. I eventually found the balance and gained conditioning. Weekdays I pump twice for 30-40 minutes at 5-6hg, occasionally hitting 7. Edema for me is not really caused by time anymore due to conditioning, but is caused by high pressure at long periods. Weekends I may due 3 sets and so far has not been an issue. Experimenting between heat and no heat right now as heat often causes me to turtle quickly whereas no heat does not. It has taken 1.5 years roughly of constant pumping to get to this point. Deconditioning twice over that time has helped, with my recent two weeks off making the biggest change in pumping session effectiveness. Hope this helps some.

By edema what do you mean exactly? A boated foreskin, or thickening of the scrotum skin? I have found that it just happens less and less the more pumping experience I get. I don’t pump to deform myself, but don’t worry too much about a bit of edema either, it is gone a few hours after and my cock remains quite functional assuming I don’t go overboard.

You can’t just go three hours right away either, I have been pumping for weeks now gradually increasing set times.

I have spent quite a bit of time reading here and on Newarts, and while I appreciate that people pump for all sorts of reasons, permanent enlargement for me is secondary to the temporary enjoyment of pumping in of itself and the feeling and effects of being pumped up.

I don’t even measure anymore, if regular practice produces long term gains I don’t feel like this can be measured in the short term accurately anyway. For me progress is measured best with how far down a tube I can get or how long the feeling of being large can be maintained.

I’m talking the doughnut effect. That and overall edema in general, doesn’t bother me. But my overall goal is permanent girth gains.

Don’t get me wrong, I truly do enjoy the temporary gains, and the last time my wife and I had sex (unfortunately almost a month ago for various reasons) was the first time I came straight out of the pump, put my ring on. I could tell she liked it. I loved it! I just want to get that girth permanently.

I beleive defenitly it is possible to acheive girth gains from pumping and jelqing.

I hear ya!
I can go sometimes up to 50 minutes of tube time with no edema or even red spots. I warm up to start with for like 13-15 minutes of pretty good heat, I use a rice sock shoulder wrap thing. Then I get very hard for a minute or two and jerk off dry kind of hard, like squeezing and rubbing and making sure my boner is really being worked by my hand. Then I stroke it wet for another minute or two and pump it fast and slow, soft and hard, variation like crazy. Then about 200-300 jelqs. Then I start to pump at about 3-3.5hg for 3 minutes. Then about 100 jelqs and another boner to enter the tube. Then a set that’s usually 3 minutes, same low pressure, same jelqs and boner afterwards. Then I do a last warm up set for 4 minutes at 4hg or so. Then jelqs and boner and then I start 10 minute sets with two large donut rice socks that completely encircle the tube and my whole cock is hidden by them. My 10 minute sets are at about 3.5-4hg, something strong enough to keep a perfect seal but not too powerful of pressure to get problems. So my warm up sets are 10 minutes total, then my next set is 10 minutes with heat added. One more 10 minute set with heat gets me to 30 minutes and I just start to feel like I’m getting into it, like I’m midway through my routine. I normally just do one more 10 minute set with heat and I’m good to go. I get very hard at the end, I really stroke it wet hard and fast and then massage and treat it gentle and I do this for no less than 5 minutes. then I wash up and let it hang.

I’ve never clamped before. I think it sounds dangerous and not sure its needed although guys here say it has given them good and quick gains. BUT, maybe clamping between sets gives you more edema?? Do you jelq between sets in the tube? I get circulation going 200% between sets and my edema is either absent or minimally contained to barely a donut under my glans, or just the looser skin near my frenulum gets a little bubble of edema, but that’s all I ever get. I’ve never had edema in my shaft or anywhere else but my foreskin.

You are doing good and your decon break will only benefit you when you start back up again. Good luck!!

Thanks for sharing your routine. I don’t think the clamping in between pumping sets gave me any more edema than just plain 10-15 minute pumping sessions. But pumping at 5hg for 20-30 sessions definitely a good bit of edema.

I’m going to put this thread in my favorites, to remember all this knowledge, when I start backup. Thanks pumped!

My plan is to start back with newbie routine, but since I’ve been at it for a few years I think I will add like a 5 minute pump along with it. Starting at like 3-4hg. Gradually working the manuals up in time and intensity. Then after a month or so add time and a little more intensity to my pump.

Once I’m conditioned again, split up my pumping sessions up. I will take your advice and try jelqing instead of clamping between sets.

First post here, this seems an appropriate thread. I have a 2” tube (converted fish gravel filter) that’s about 10” long, that I use with a brake bleeder pump. Flared and Plasticoated the end. Works great. I can pack the tube out to the walls, and get to about 7.75” long. I just bought a 2.75” cock and ball tube with a ring for the end. Just starting to use it. I can pack it with my cock and balls, but was more interested in seeing how much more girth I could get since I’m packing the 2”. Haven’t had time just yet.

I love packing the 2” tube, feels great, and I typically use about 7” of vacuum. I wish I had more time to work on a regular routine for a structure PE program, but RL gets in the way. That said, have been doing this off and on for some time, and I have seen gains in girth and length.

Lookinforgirth, I’m test running a set of silicone sleeves and I can definitely say, I like them alot and might suggest giving them a try. I’m testing a pretty tight .75in one for my compression theory to see if I get more cc expansion with the positive pressure of the sleeve and I still get good expansion and zero edema. I also use a stretchy .75in one and I’m close to packing the cylinder aftrer only about a week and still zero edema. The slight compression of the stretchy one keeps discoloring and fluid retention at bay and has the added benefit of going to higher pressure levels without hardly any discomfort and staves off all broken capillaries and red spots. Glans stays nice and rosey pink too and seems to mushroom more also.

I’m ballooning/edging for about 15-20 min to warm up and take advantage of prostaglandin release, then pump incrementally for 15 min, 2x daily, then medium jelq to cool down and help cement. A little too soon for any measurable results i think, but been able to pump a little longer and wider with each progressive session. I try for only a mm or 2 depending on how the pressure feels. So far EQ has been phenomenal, rock hard and seeing some better vascularization which leads me to believe some gains will follow.